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grapefruit / 4045 posts
@PurplePumps: Hi there. I'm so glad you popped back in because I've been thinking about you! Don't worry about catching up on the thread. I hope you are doing okay. What's next steps for you, aside from trying naturally, if any? You've done two IVFs, right? That's so tough. I hope you are hanging in there okay! And maybe drowning myself in a bottle of wine at home on Friday night will be good also, in lieu of going out to dinner, if my test is negative tomorrow. Thanks for your input!
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@agold: Thanks, I'm dong ok. Thoughts of what to do next basically consume me everyday unless I'm keeping busy. We've done 3 fresh cycles, no embies for FETs. I'm going to be doing more testing so I'm trying not to think about it until we have more info. We'll either be doing IVM or IVF again next year... maybe both if we need be. My thought now is to give up after that and go the donor route.. though sometime I think about doing that now too. I dunno.. I go in circles and wobble back and forth every other second.
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm so sorry. You are a tough girl. My sister is just now starting to look into a donor egg IVF. She did three IVFs trying for her first baby before I stepped in to donate my eggs to her. That resulted in my niece. Fourish years later, my sister is now looking into doing IVF again with donor eggs. I not willing to donate mine anymore for obvious reasons, but its very interesting to talk with her as she's going through the donor egg route. I hope your baby comes to you soon through whatever means. Its such a tough journey. I don't know if its PIO shots or what, but I've been an emotional mess this week. It sucks but I try to remain happy!
apricot / 365 posts
@Amorini: sorry you have to do a freeze all since that wasn't what you were wanting. Hope all goes well for you tomorrow!
apricot / 365 posts
@dookie32: we're doing one at a time, as well, and also considering that being it if it doesn't work out. Between all the miscarriages and the ER and then the FET, I need a break for my body and spirit after this!
pear / 1986 posts
@agold: Hoping for a great beta for you today!!
@Amorini: I'm really sorry about the freeze all. I hope you get to move onto the FET asap!
AFM: Hematologist appointment was interesting but the issue is still not resolved. More bloodwork and additional genetic testing, results in 2 weeks. And on the insurance front, unfortunately, we are already dealing with the head of HR so we can't really take it higher. She did admit that she read the mandate incorrectly after DH corrected her very diplomatically. I think we are just going to have to give them a deadline to decide - seems like they are just dragging their feet now and waiting until they can find some reason to deny us coverage.
pear / 1881 posts
@Amorini: Good luck today! Thinking of you and your ER! Hopefully, you will have a restful weekend and your embies will do wonderfully!
@PurplePumps: Thinking of you during this difficult decision process! It's so hard knowing what to do and what decision makes sense. Did you end up listening to the postcast on IVM?
@GreenThumb: Stupid HR, seriously!? So, is it not clearly stated whether things or covered or not in your summary plan description for you insurance? I'm sorry that you are going through all of this - how frustrating!
Well, I'm going to pull the plug and order my meds today! I am taking advantage of the overfill in the follistim pens, so i'll be able to actually order less meds since I'm doing the 300IU pens. It's getting so close..
Question - for those of you that already have one child, have you clued in your parents (or in-laws) regarding what is going on? We told my in-laws 2 weeks ago, but haven't told my parents yet. On one hand, I feel like we should, but on the other, I don't trust them to keep it quiet.
apricot / 344 posts
Question; how often, or not, did you get an update re; your embryos between ER and transfer? We got a call the morning after but haven't heard a peep since. Scheduled for 5dt on Sunday but no idea what time,etc. starting to go a little crazy! (Prob thanks to all the meds that got added to my schedule yesterday).
pear / 1881 posts
Oh, I know what I was going to write here as well! Are any of you based out of Ontario? They will now cover IVF for up to age 43 starting in December!
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@endymion4: @GreenThumb: @dookie32: Thanks for thinking of me girls! So I tested at home this morning and it was negative. I was fine for an hour until a spider fell on me in the shower. I cried while blow drying my hair. I went to take my blood pregnancy test, and I cried while doing that. I went to get starbucks, and I cried while ordering it. But now I got to work and my boss isn't here today and I'm feeling a little better. (Hah!) So I'll wait for the call from my doctor and I'm hopefully I can keep it together. I will ask about moving on to FET asap. I'm not stressed, I'm just sad for myself in not getting what I want. (And now writing that just made me cry! Gees I'm a mess.) Silver lining - I'm going to see Jerry Seinfeld next week and I will NOT offer to be the designated driver.
pear / 1881 posts
@agold: oh hun, I'm so sorry! Will you get your beta results today? This whole process sucks! Thinking of you..did you plan somewhere fun to go for dinner tonight?
kiwi / 538 posts
@agold: That sucks- I’m so sorry This emotional rollercoaster is just the worst- especially with all the hormones. These are the times I usually have red wine and cookie dough for dinner and camp out on the couch watching movies. If you make it out to a restaurant, you are my hero!
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@NorthStar: Thanks lady. I wish there was just a concrete answer as to why it didn't work. And yes, I will get my blood test results today. My doctor will call me with them so hopefully I can get some insight from him as to the next steps. Maybe I will be on track to have a FET with some of the other girls here. And I'm so excited for you to be starting your IVF cycle!
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@GreenThumb: @dookie32: Thanks girls! We are currently binge watching Mad Men, so that's great. I don't have any thing planned for tonight actually. I hope my husband does. But I'm happy to snuggle at home if that's what we do. Maybe I'll go in the hot tub tonight with wine!
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@dookie32: When are you planning your FET?
@Amorini: Good luck today! I can't wait to hear about your egg retrieval!
pear / 1986 posts
@agold: Yes, hot tub and wine sounds like a winning combination to me!!
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@NorthStar: Yes, I did! Thank you. It had me a little worried when they said they maybe only get 2 eggs! I will have to look into it more and see what the clinic says about it when I go in for the one day workup.
@waiting4you: Next day fertilization report, then day 2 to let us know if we'd be doing a day 3 or 5 transfer.
@agold: I'm sorry. I totally read Jerry Springer though, and when you said you would not be DD, I was like, OOOH that explains that entire show! Everyone is drunk off their ass!
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@PurplePumps: How funny. Seinfeld, not Springer! But a Jerry Springer show could be certainly entertaining! So I know you've done a few IVFs... its such a bummer. I was really convinced I would be one and done no matter the outcome. But the second the doctor told me that only two made it to freeze I immediately thought I would need to do a second IVF to have peace of mind. But gees. Will I ever have peace of mind?
@jaguar: Was your precious Georgia baby from a frozen embryo transfer?
apricot / 365 posts
@waiting4you: we got a call the day after, 3 days, 5 days, and 6 days (there were embryos biopsied on day 5 and day 6)
apricot / 365 posts
@agold: I'm so sorry! Sending a virtual hug to you!! I hate that this is all so uncertain and there aren't always answers on why or how to change the protocol for the next time. Hope you are able to take some time for yourself to relax
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@endymion4: Thanks, lady. I certainly will relax.
My doctor just called to confirm the news. He uses such a sad voice - I'm so glad I got all my crying out this morning. So he suggested scheduling a follow up meeting with my husband so we can ask him questions. He will do a mock cycle as soon as I get my period if I want. And then I can schedule the frozen embryo transfer for whenever I want. (Ummm... asap, please.) One thing he said that would be different is that with a frozen embryo transfer, he can control my uterine lining, whereas with a fresh cycle, he cannot. As I was gearing up for my egg retrieval surgery, my uterine lining was actually decreasing. Doctor never said anything about it, but I noticed it. So maybe the lining was an issue and the FET will do the trick!
Good luck to all the ladies currently cycling and those gearing up for FETs! I'm staying in the game!!
nectarine / 2192 posts
@agold: Big hugs! I'm so sorry to hear that, and praying that the FET is your magic ticket!
As for me, I'm back from my conference, which was awesome! I think I O'd CD13, which means the cabergoline is probably making a difference. Prior to starting, I'd been Oing CD15. With travel, we only hit O-4 and O-3, so there is an outside chance. Our third IUI is next cycle, then probably IVF. I have only done femara, not clomid. I'm wondering if there is any point in trying clomid, or is that unlikely if femara/IUI doesn't work?
My brother asked me to be the godmother for my niece. I really don't want to- it's so hard emotionally, and even worse when they named her something we liked. I was totally surprised and said I'd need to think to make sure I'm able to make such a big commitment. Then I sobbed my eyes out.
persimmon / 1132 posts
@agold: So sorry, lady. Really. What a bummer. We will gear up for FET together. Give yourself an enormous hug from me.
Thanks @jaguar for your info about heightened progesterone and freeze-alls. Congrats on your CD1. If you feel like it, I'd love to learn about the ramp-up to FET. I have had it explained to me umpteen times, but I still don't get it. Mostly it's the timing I am confused about. Is it 3, 6 or 8 weeks from CD1.
@PurplePumps: Wishing you lots of sweetness and simple joys as you gear up for what's ahead.
Thanks to everyone for the well-wishes and thinking about me today with my ER. It went fine and, in the end, there were 22 mature follicles (ETA: I mean eggs). Before the procedure, the RE said she expected 18 so there you go, doc. I'm feeling rather subdued about the whole experience -- probably the painkillers. In addition to salty foods and tons of electrolyte liquids, I'm being proactively treated for OHSS with cabergoline and 5cc/day Lupron (my nemesis) for the next week. I'm definitely puffing up. I guess this is just going to go how it's going to go...
I'll get calls tomorrow re: fertilization report and day 6 for them to tell me how many they froze. While I "outperformed" for my age and FSH, the RE was quick to remind me to expect high attrition due to quality. Thanks for the 100th reminder, doc.
Hugs to all.
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@agold: *hugs* No, she was a fresh transfer. We haven't had a freshie since.
@Amorini: Depends what protocol your FET will be. I've tried all of them - Femara to induce O (since I have no natural cycle), Gonal-F to do an Ov Induction FET, and then completely medicated on oestrogen & progesterone. That's what we'll do again this time... so I'm on progynova tablets now 3x a day, scan next Friday, and when lining is good, we'll add in progesterone & schedule a transfer, if any embryos thaw.
I'm slightly traumatised by all our bad luck with frozen embryos dying, or looking terrible... so I don't have any real expectations this time.
persimmon / 1114 posts
@agold: I am so sorry lady. I know how hard it is when it does not work. Hopefully they can get you on the schedule soon and the FET will be the trick.
@Amorini: 22 is a great number. It's so frustrating how doctors can be so crass. Hopefully you prove him wrong again and a lot of your embabies keep on going!
persimmon / 1132 posts
@bloved: Thanks, lady!
@jaguar: Ugh, I'm sorry for your FET trauma. I'm thinking positive thoughts for you and those frosties.
@waiting4you: GL with your ET tomorrow!
Here's how our fertilization report came back:
22 eggs retrieved
14 mature
10 fertilized
(I thought they told me yesterday that 22 were mature, so this big drop was disappointing!) I tried to ask if the biggest drop-off already happened or if we should expect another big drop-off. I think he said that there will be more attrition but not as much as that first two drops (~51%!). Now is good time to not be a numbers person...
I'm going to try to walk the doggies with DH now and get this slow body moving.
apricot / 344 posts
@Amorini: thanks for the info. We got a call yesterday around 4 to tell us what time to be there tomorrow for ET. Asked how may we still had going out of the 5 (since we've had no update since the morning after ER). The nurse said, we don't know. We won't take them out till tomorrow morning at 6:30 for a 7 am meeting with RE and embryologist followed by a 7:15 transfer. My response was, does that mean we still have something progressing? She said they don't check so as to not disturb them. The thought of driving an hour to the office, prepared for a transfer (drinking a TON of water), to show up and potentially have them say...umm, sorry we have nothing to transfer, is making me absolutely SICK. Really really disappointed that we have NO info going into this appointment tomorrow. praying that 2 have made it! Though even 1 would still be a blessing!!
persimmon / 1132 posts
@waiting4you: Oh, dear, that is really stressful! I'm so sorry you're going through this. You have every right to be worked up over it. Praying there will be 1 or 2 perfect ones. I'll be thinking about you.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@waiting4you: FX for your transfer tomorrow. That happened to me my first round, and it was devastating so I really hope you wont have to go through that.
apricot / 365 posts
@waiting4you: oh goodness! i would be super stressed by that lack of info, too! thinking of you for a great transfer tomorrow!!
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@AmeliaBedilia: Thanks for your comment. And I'm so sorry you are feeling so conflicted with having been asked to be a godmother. That's tough. I hope you can reach a level of comfort with whatever you decide.
@jaguar: thanks for the info. And I can absolutely understand feeling traumatized. This IF ordeal is a gut wrenching filled with constant reminders throughout the day. It sucks and I'm sorry. Do you have any info about your current frozen embryo(s)?? When can you get a picture of the frozen so - before the freeze or after the thaw?
@bloved: thanks for your comment! I'm hoping to get a meeting with my re at the end of next week and get some kind of schedule going. I need af to show, though.
@Amorini: try to focus on the fact that having 10 out of 14 fertilized is a great number!! 10 is a great number to be working with. I hope your numbers stay high! And how sweet - a walk with your husband and your doggies. I hope you can keep yourself distracted!
@waiting4you: I'm sorry you are worried. Please remind me, is this your first Ivf? Do you have any reason to believe you don't still have 5 healthy embryos growing? Try to stay positive!
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@waiting4you: Our clinics do the same - don't look at them until thawing. Nerve wracking!
@agold: We won't see until after the thaw/at transfer. They said they're frozen at day 4, so we'll be transferring day 4 too. Not sure how I feel about that, but too exhausted to even care. I'd just like a shot at this working.
apricot / 344 posts
@agold: This is our first IVF cycle. No reason in particular to think there would be nothing tomorrow, but you never know. Trying to stay positive...luckily it's only a few more hours till we're headed down there to find out.
@JAGUAR: We're doing a fresh cycle, so no thawing. Would love to end up with something to freeze though!!
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@jaguar: I wish we could know right now what the frozen embryos look like. I'm trying to be positive about having to go to the two frozen embryos I have. But its so hard to stay positive. How is your time frame looking? Will you transfer one to two?
@waiting4you: Wow! Just a few more hours! Stay positive, lady. I am really hoping for the best for you.
nectarine / 2192 posts
@waiting4you: sending prayers for good news and a smooth and successful transfer!
Today is our 6th anniversary, and I never thought it would still be just us two. Cue all the questions about when we will have kids.
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@agold: Our clinics here push for singles, and because I'm under 40, that's all they'll allow. Scan is in a week to see lining and then should have a bit of a time line in place after that. xx
persimmon / 1132 posts
@AmeliaBedilia: Happy Anniversary! We just hit 6 years not long ago so I know how you feel. During our NTNP years, we always sincerely said "one day" when people asked us about kids. Now when they ask, I kind of get stage fright and can't give the same nonchalant response. I let DH handle it!
I would have a really hard time and probably I would feel very hurt to be asked to be a godparent right now. And rationally, it's maybe not "right" to feel hurt, but I have felt hurt recently being invited to my cousin's four-year- olds birthday party! I hope you can be honest with yourself and do what feels true for you.
@agold: Thanks for the encouraging words In the end, even our 10 fertilized embies are miracles ... something that wouldn't have happened without ICSI. I'm trying to not get too attached but it's hard! DH and I finally got our DNA together!
@waiting4you: Sending hugs and prayers for a great ET today. We are here for you!!
AFM: I've gained 8 lbs since the trigger as of last night, though now it's down to 5 lbs! I continue to feel bloated but maybe things will finally level off today. I definitely have at least some mild-to-moderate OHSS right now and that's with treating it proactively! I'm also still crampy down there, but it comes and goes. Just taking a few ibuprofen when I need it. It's not looking good for me to go to work tomorrow...
ETA: updated to correct some crazy phone typing!
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