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pear / 1881 posts
@jaguar: yes!!! Awesome beta numbers!! Congrats!! Why did you have a blood test last week?
apricot / 344 posts
@jaguar: YAY YAY YAY!!!! I've been off here for a few days since I was so sick, but remembered today was your day. So so so excited for you!!! Like you said, one day at a time, but this is a GREAT start!! Huge congratulations to you!!
Update on my OHSS, today is 10 days since I got sick. Things are slowly getting better, but I still have to stay upright (even sleeping) and drink tons of water. On Friday last week my right ovary was measuring 231 cc's of fluid and left was about 80 cc's. That didn't include the 4 other pockets of fluid. At yesterday's appointment the right side was down to 160 and the left around 40. So still uncomfortable but getting better. Beta yesterday 13dp5dt was 1185. Now if I could sleep I'd be feeling much better!
apricot / 378 posts
I'm just dropping in to say hello and send well wishes to all you ladies
@jaguar: how incredible! Congrats!!
kiwi / 538 posts
@jaguar: YAY!!! Congrats! Those are some pretty strong progesterone numbers as well.
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@jaguar: Congratulations!!!!
@waiting4you: That's a great beta number. I hope you feel better soon!
cherry / 107 posts
@waiting4you: Holy crap that's a lot of fluid!!! Glad to hear you're a little bit better. Hope you heal up quickly!
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@waiting4you: Ouch, that sounds awful! I think you have multiples in there, lady.
@NorthStar: My paranoid GP ordered them in bloods (generic random stuff I was testing) and I didn't find out she'd tested for hcg/prog until results came back yesterday.. sneaky.
Feels like this is going to end at any minute, I'm totally paranoid.
apricot / 344 posts
@jaguar: Definitely a possibility. Along with that high beta, my progesterone is 540 and my Estradiol is 2933 (and those numbers are on NO supplements for the last 10 days). Definitely explains why I feel terrible. Back to the Dr. tomorrow for another u/s and more bloodwork. We'll see if he attempts to check to see fetal sacs and things since my HCG would be somewhere around 3,500 on Thursday with the way the numbers have been going. My husband decided he'd like it to be twins since he NEVER wants to see me go thru all this again. It's been pretty hard on him to watch me be in so much pain (though I think he's just fussy about going to the grocery store and having to figure out what to do for dinner, lol). He's never really had to do that. I'm just thankful it all worked...if this is what I have to deal with to end up with a little one...I'm ok with it.
pear / 1986 posts
@waiting4you: I hope you are feeling better really soon! So much to go through, but totally worth it!! Exciting that you have an U/S tomorrow and will hopefully see if there are one or two little beans in there!
@jaguar: Hold onto the now as much as you can - you are pregnant (!!!) - and that it a wonderful thing!
@Aqualov: How is everything with you? When are you in for the next monitoring appointment?
pear / 1986 posts
Tough day yesterday... we had some hints already, but found out about another pregnant friend and her LO1 isn't even 2 yet. Kinda wish DH hadn't told me...
Getting my list of questions together for our WTF visit with the RE. Can't believe it is still over two weeks before we get to sit down with him. Just keep your fingers crossed for us that we can get right into the FET protocol and there isn't some reason to delay. We will be seeing him right before CD1, so I'm hoping he just signs off on the FET on his own, unlike the fresh IVF where it had to go to committee for approval before we could start. I'm going to start acupuncture again, so that's a good thing. Hoping they can get me in next week.
pear / 1881 posts
@GreenThumb: oh no, I'm so sorry I find that most pregnancy announcements are super difficult, except those that I know are going through IF. Hang in there..it will be you soon! Good luck at your upcoming appointment
@waiting4you: Holy high numbers! But, glad to hear that your beta number continues to rise beautifully and I hope that you continue to feel a little better each and every day. You definitely have fought hard for this little one and deserve this baby!
As if I didn't need any more stress in my life, found out yesterday that the tenant in our rental property (stuck with a townhome because mortgage is worth more than market value) is moving out tomorrow and his lease goes through end of June. Sounds like he lost his job and cannot afford rent, so we are terminating lease, but he has to pay the Feb rent and will lose his deposit (worth one month's rent). So, now the decision - do we sell or rent for one more year. The market value is just at the mortgage, but we would lose $$ because of the fees. This doesn't even consider the tax implications, which don't even consider mortgages. oh boy..
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@NorthStar: That's a bummer about your rental. You could sue him for his breach of the lease. Do you think you will otherwise be able to find a new tenant quickly? I'd keep it if you could especially since you'd lose money on the sale.
pear / 1881 posts
@agold: I could bring him to small claims court, but I wouldn't want him to get pissed and trash my house. So, I'm going to sign the modification. Luckily, I have a management company because the townhome is 2.5 hours from where we currently live.
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@NorthStar: Oh that is good. Hopefully the management company can help you find a new tenant quick and this doesn't become an issue for you.
apricot / 365 posts
@GreenThumb: that is always so hard! someone we know just announced they are pregnant with their 3rd (oldest is 4). But the real kicker was that they did the nursery before they got pregnant so she could paint it herself. Wouldn't it be nice to say, i'll paint this month so I can go ahead and get pregnant next month
Hope your Dr can get you right in and started up again ASAP!
pea / 8 posts
@waiting4you: hope you continue to feel better and are able to get some sleep
@jaguar: I can only imagine how nerve wracking this time is for you. I am hoping and praying for you, your numbers look great!
@greenthumb: Pregnancy announcements are hard. I try to be happy for the person, and I usually am, at some level. It just seems so unfair that for certain people this isn't an issue they even have to concern themselves with - and yet for others it just is all consuming. I feel like people just don't get it. Hope you are able to start the FET process right away. I have a question about acupuncture - do you take the medicinal herbs as well? I want to try it, but I am on some drugs - for thyroid and bcp to control endo - so my Dr doesn't want me taking the herbs. Just wondering if it is beneficial on its own.
@northstar: Ugh! Sorry about your tenant. Hope you are able to figure out the sell/rent situation quickly and it all goes smoothly.
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@waiting4you: Geez! My estrogen is 600 and prog 30 and that's with a crapload of artificial meds. :o
@GreenThumb: Surely for an FET there will be less hassle to get going? Mine have always been relatively quick... and you're already doing all this waiting now, so my fingers are crossed for you.
@NorthStar: That is so annoying! Could you find a new tenant quickly?
@Tennis79: They're low compared to some of the gals here, but I'm trying to be positive! x
pear / 1881 posts
@jaguar: Yes, the management company thought that we could get a renter right away, so that is promising! It's just not what I wanted to deal with during my next IVF cycle!
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@NorthStar: Totally understand! Hope this is all sorted before you even have to worry about it. x
persimmon / 1132 posts
@jaguar: Your numbers are perfect! "Some people" are reporting high numbers here lately only because "some people" around here are having twins! (Not me that I know of yet. Probably no twins. My body just loves to be jacked up the hormones!)
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@Amorini: Ah, my 2 friends who did IVF transfers a few days after me are getting their positives, and all have higher levels too - so I'm freaking out a bit IRL as well as here.
The worry never ends...
pear / 1986 posts
@jaguar: I know it is tough when the numbers aren't through the roof! With my FET with little A, my betas started out really low and the nurse wasn't really optimistic on that first call... 44 on 9dp5dt and then only 91 or so on 11dp5dt. But she held on tight thank goodness! I think FETs sometimes start a little slower. Your 1st number was great! Is today your 2nd?
@Tennis79: I did take herbs with the acupuncture prior to being diagnosed with IF and starting IVF. But I stopped the herbs once I started my IVF meds just because we didn't want them to interfere at all. I thought the acupuncture was great either way. Really helped me to destress throughout the process, plus the benefit of increasing blood flow are said to help during IF treatments.
@NorthStar: OMG, can't anything be easy?! I hope that your management company can find you a new tenant asap!!
@endymion4: I know, announcements are always a happy thing really, and hopefully it will be our turn soon!
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@GreenThumb: I spoke to my clinic/OB and they said to push it back a bit... because if it hasn't skyrocketed, I'm more likely to panic - so we're waiting until Monday.
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@jaguar: Every week that I had blood taken, I never even asked what my numbers are and my doctor never told me. It was always just, "everything looks great!" So if you doctors don't tell you that anything is wrong with your numbers, then try not to worry about it. And maybe tell your doctor not to tell you the numbers so you don't worry about it.
nectarine / 2192 posts
@jaguar: So excited for you. Your numbers are great! I suspect some of the super high numbers are twins, and you had one transferred.
@GreenThumb: Sending big hugs!
@waiting4you: hoping you feel better and excited to hear how many are in there!
@NorthStar: Ugh! None of us need any more stress than IVF- that's way too much to begin with!
AFM, I'm coming out of my funk a little. I just found out I'm MTHFR deficient from labs done by my family doc for other reasons. I had suspected it and been taking some supplements intermittently (daily since transfer), but my level of the enzyme is very low. I'm bumping up my supplements. Many people also do lovenox, which I was going to ask about anyway at my wtf appointment Friday, since I've tested positive for antiphospholipid antibodies in the past. I've been thinking the issue was implantation, and kept thinking it was because of the NK cells and we didn't do intralipids soon enough. (My saline sonogram was fine, and my lining was "perfect.") We will still do intralipids and sooner next cycle as well as prednisone (I'm going to ask about starting it sooner), but now I really think this may be the issue that caused round 1 to fail. We've addressed everything else. On one hand, I feel even more defective and so sad that we might have lost our beautiful embryos to something that was preventable. On the other, maybe this will work round 2! Also, I'm on day 4 of a gluten free diet. The one good thing about timing is that if anyone asks why, it's what I'm giving up for Lent.
The other frustration is after paying the bill today for the second opinion we got a few months back, I got a bill for my pre-IVF STD screening for $570. My insurance said it would be $30 or free depending on the diagnostic code. Apparently, they didn't run it through insurance, and it was supposed to be sent to their partner lab. Tomorrow I get to straighten that mess out. This is the third erroneous bill I've gotten in the past month. I'm so angry and frustrated!
nectarine / 2192 posts
I had emailed my doc about a few things I wanted to discuss at appointment tomorrow. My RE emailed me back, which I wasn't expecting. He said we will adjust some things but probably not change protocols in the way I was asking. He said more protocols increase the risk of errors, and when he dropped the number of protocols he did, his rates went from 33% to over 50%. He said he doesn't have a lot more to offer in terms of NK cells but is willing to refer me to the nearest one, which is 5-6 hours away. He said we'd discuss doing a freeze all. This makes me a little nervous, because 1. Delay- I really thought I'd have a baby by the end of the year and a freeze all means I won't, and I have to live in this uncertainty even longer. 2. Costs more- I think $2500 more. 3. I worry our embryos won't make it to day 5.
Has anyone had a reproductive immunology consult? Do any of them do phone consults?
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@AmeliaBedilia: no immuno consults here so I can't help you there - but I am going for a second opinion clinic appt today, in case we need them and this turns out to be 2/2 miscarriages.
I must say though, I had poorer results when we completely swapped protocols - but that was just me. I wonder if we had stuck to what worked for G, whether we would have had success any earlier.
That said, why are they suggesting a freeze all?
nectarine / 2192 posts
@jaguar: thanks, you have given me good perspective several times and I appreciate that. My doctor's quote: I also want to discuss freezing the embryos for better receptivity conditions.
As for reproductive immunology, the place in Chicago charges between $5000-8000 for initial consultation plus labs if insurance doesn't pay. I'd also have to travel to Chicago, and they're booking into mid April. I found Dr. Matzner in LA who doesn't require travel to LA, charges$300 for an hourlong phone consultation, and labs are predicted at $1200-1800. I can get it scheduled 7-10 days after he has my records. The downside is his residency was in internal medicine. I don't see as much online but he has published with Sher, several publications, and what he has published makes sense.
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@AmeliaBedilia: My doctor strongly encourages freeze-all cycles. I was resistant to the idea because (a) more money, and (b) delay. But ultimately the FET is what worked for me. I fully understand the doctor's reasoning. So maybe don't rule it out entirely.
kiwi / 538 posts
@AmeliaBedilia: Which practice in Chicago? That's where I am and I'm on a local infertility FB group. I can ask about people's experiences. .
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@AmeliaBedilia: Ok, so to encourage better condition on YOU. Well, that's fine, particularly if you add immuno stuff on top. But at the end of the day - the protocol is what's important, as regardless of fresh or frozen, the embryos are what counts.
I'm terrified of freeze alls and would desperately aim for a fresh - but that's ONLY because the only one that's ever worked for me was fresh. (Experiences stick with ya!) But as @agold: said, there is a lot of evidence that FET is great & assists positive implantation etc.
It's so hard, I wish there was one magical way that would be guaranteed to work. FET work so so well with some folks, but rubbish for others. Short vs long cycles, etc etc. GAH. Such a mess.
My first long-down was a nightmare cycle (1 sad day-3 transferred, nothing to freeze, disappointment) but when they repeated the same thing with just a SLIGHT meds tweak, it got the best cycle I've ever had.
grapefruit / 4045 posts
@jaguar: I was terrified of frozen cycles too. My sister had gone through IVF just about 5 years ago and fresh was encouraged at that time. But now there is a new freezing technique that makes the embryos just as good as fresh embryos once thawed. With the old technique, not all of the frozen embryos survived the thawing process. Perhaps not all RE's have the ability to do the new freezing technique, so that is something I would ask about.
ETA: I found online that the two types of embryo freezing are called "slow freezing" and "Vitrification (ultra-rapid freezing)". I think the second is what is now preferred but I could be wrong.
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