https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Thu, 23 Apr 2026 10:13:53 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-do-i-end-co-sleeping#post-2927610 Thu, 27 Oct 2022 14:44:46 +0000 agold 2927610@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So my 4.5 year has been co-sleeping with my and my husband since she was 18 months. I ordered her a bed in February and it was finally delivered two days ago. She loves her room but is scared to sleep alone. I think she legit has some anxiety in general (too scared to go to sunday school at church, but okay to go to preschool with all of her friends). </p> <p>I can get her to sleep in her room by laying with her until she falls asleep. Then she wakes approximately 4 hours later and searches the house for me and I haven't been able to escape her room thereafter. My 6 yo is an amazing champion sleeper. </p> <p>I'm headed into sleep deprivation psychosis soon which is how I got into this mess to begin with. Any tips? Please! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/18-month-sleep-regression-3#post-2903999 Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:13:44 +0000 agold 2903999@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My girl has been in a regression for weeks. Please tell me your experiences! At night, its very hard for me to set her down. She falls asleep when being rocked, but stiffens up and yells "no!" when I try to lay her in her crib. I am usually able to get her in her crib initially, and after her midnight waking (but it can take up to an hour of me trying!). She wakes at least once or twice. She naps easy and great, though! She's never slept through the night. I weaned her and some nights are getting better, but still mostly are so hard. How much longer will this last? This is tough! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/swaddlenight-weaning-and-sleep-training#post-2885144 Tue, 21 May 2019 10:58:10 +0000 lindseykaye 2885144@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My LO is 5.5 months old and hasn't yet rolled over, so we are still swaddling her for all sleep. I am wondering what approach to take with our next steps. </p> <p>There are a few things going on - #1 is the swaddle weaning. We have been using a miracle blanket style swaddle since she was tiny. We have two Woombie style swaddle pods that we used with our older daughter but hadn't had success (or really we gave up trying) with this LO. Two nights we've gone in for night wakings and she's had one or both arms free. She's *so* close to rolling over, that I think DH and I have been kind of waiting for her to do that so we're forced to transition. Right now, we are not sure if we should try to transition slowly by swaddling with one arm out, trying the woombie again, or go straight to the sleep sack. I don't want to draw it out longer than needed but I also want to try and preserve at least some of the great sleep we have.</p> <p>At the same time, she is potentially ready to night wean. Right now I only nurse her on one side for her MOTN wakeup (around 3AM) after a diaper change and re-swaddle to help her settle faster. She has gone a handful of nights not waking until 5AM or so, so I know she *can* be night weaned but I don't know if it's too early for that. My supply is super low (we've supplemented from about 7 weeks) and I feel like once I night wean I may end up losing more supply and will likely stop pumping/nursing altogether.</p> <p>AND we are thinking that if we're going to shake up sleep, we may want to do some sleep training. We waited until much later with our first, mostly because we didn't really know what to do. Once we sleep trained it was amazing. But with an older baby she could put her own paci back in, etc. whereas this LO is just shy of being able to do that.</p> <p>What approach would you take here? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885007 Mon, 20 May 2019 05:21:45 +0000 muffinsmuffins 2885007@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We’ve been working with a sleep consultant for the last couple weeks doing ‘gentle’ sleep training...basically a version of the sleep lady shuffle. We made it through all 9 freakin nights of staying in the room at bed and night wakes and DS (8.5 months) has successfully been putting himself to sleep and sleeping through for the past week. He wakes usually at 5:20/5:30 which isn’t great and the trainer wants us to not get him out of bed til 6, but I can deal with waking after 5 if he sleeps through. We wait 10 mins before responding to him now. </p> <p>Besides day 1 and 2, he hasn’t had any night wakings. UNTIL last night (night 11) He was up crying with 10 min checks from 3 am to 4:45, slept 45, then woke up for good at 5:30. I have no clue WTF happened but I’m feeling really discouraged and upset since he was doing so well. We are supposed to go visit my parents this weekend out of town and I’m panicking we will all be up all night and wake everyone up. </p> <p>The trainer has been suggesting for a couple days to switch his bedtime bottle to before bath instead of after to see if that helps with the early wakings. We’ve been reluctant to change it up because it WAS working. Now I don’t know what to do or whether I should change anything. We are supposed to keep communicating with her for another 3 days but we were actually going to tell her today that we were all good and happy to just be on our own now! :meh: </p> <p>Questions:<br /> -does anyone do the order of bottle, bath, bed? I’m worried he will be all wired up if we do that or won’t eat as much. He is fully awake going into the crib for nap and night and no paci, only his lovey.<br /> -could this be the dreaded extinction burst? I didn’t think it happened this ‘late’?<br /> -I guess I’m naive but I thought from what our trainer said that sleep will usually just get better and better. A quick wake here and there but not like what happened last night. After sleep training, did you have HORRIBLE nights still every so often? (Besides extenuating circumstances like illness and teething)<br /> -did you have to re-train from the very start? I’m dreading this because it freaking sucked.</p> <p>I’m looking for commiseration and also WWYD in my shoes? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-its-been-a-week-with-little-results#post-2880677 Sat, 13 Apr 2019 07:50:55 +0000 PurplePumps 2880677@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>DS is about 6.5 months now and I finally gave in to CIO a week ago. We have a bedtime routine - dinner (cereal for him) with us, bath, song, sleep sack, nurse (he stays awake), and then bed. We seemed to have made some progress with the initial falling asleep and he does cry less, but he still has a ton of trouble staying asleep and had an awful night yesterday. Before we started CIO, I was nursing every time he woke up (1.5-2.5 hrs) to get him back to sleep and oversleeping in an attempt to do anything i could to get some sleep, so I still feed him at his first waking after 10pm and 2am. We do a check in after 15 minutes now, so we hadnt had to go in there after the first night until last night, twice. We're not nap training right now and is a terrible napper, fights it and naps only about 45 minutes most the time (occasionally 20 min or a little over an hour if we're lucky) so his awake time is only about 1.5 hours, but there isnt really a distinguishable nap schedule at all. He nurses when waking up from a nap so he's not used to nursing to sleep during the day, though we do rock and up until about 1 or 2 weeks ago, I'd been laying down with him to nap for about a month.</p> <p>I feel like I've created a sleep monster by taking the "easy" way out until now and just doing whatever I can to get him to sleep. I was told by SOOOOOO many people, just do CIO, it worked for us in 3 days, or a week tops was what everyone boasted to me. Are they over embellishing? Forgot the pain already? Am I doing something royally wrong still? Is this sleep habit "normal"?? Does it just take longer sometimes? Not a single person told me it took them longer than a week. Heeeeeelp!!</p> <p>[attach=2644/19/ppwh9n.600x88.sleep.JPG]</p> <p>[attach=2644/19/ppwhcw.600x301.sleep.JPG]</p> <p>ETA: bottom chart is the same, just reshaped it so the numbers were more readable. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trip-shortly-after-starting-sleep-training#post-2879615 Sat, 06 Apr 2019 20:19:13 +0000 PurplePumps 2879615@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So we're going (maybe?) on a week long trip in 3 weeks and I'm kinda worried about how he will sleep there. Do you think it's gonna just ruin all the sleep work done here? Or will it mean he sleeps well there too? (Assuming he finally gets the hang of it at home within the next 3 weeks). Is there anything I can do so that he doesnt regress on the trip? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-a-screamer#post-2870710 Wed, 06 Feb 2019 16:24:08 +0000 bhbee 2870710@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We need to sleep train and I’m ready to try (6m this week) but she is such a loud and angry crier! Has been since day 1 basically. Logically I know it’s just how she communicates but it sounds like we are hurting her or something. But I don’t think she’s really in pain because she stops on a dime when she gets what she wants (held by mommy or wanting to nurse is mostly what she gets upset about ... but she’s a super chunk and probably needs to drop the nighttime feeding!). If she doesn’t get what she wants, other soothing doesn’t seem to make a dent. </p> <p>Anyway any tips for making it through? Seems like she just gets madder and madder if you ignore her and I’m dreading it but I want to SLEEP. :bummed: She also has a very strong mommy preference right now. Thanks for any tips!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-train-or-sleep-train-1st-move-into-nursery-or#post-2784241 Sun, 05 Nov 2017 05:00:39 +0000 cake2017 2784241@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>A few questions- would love feedback please....<br /> 4.5 month old sleeps in his crib in our room. Sleep has been off for 3 weeks now. Also we cause a lot of disturbance. We are moving in a month should i wait to move him or move him to another room here?</p> <p>Nap train or sleep train first? I was thinking naps because it’s just him and I. Nights DH may interfere. I’m trying to teach him to self soothe. He started sucking thumb and mouth in hands. Breaks from swaddle so I was going to have him just wear comfy, safe sleep wear? Also, we have no monitors is that a problem? Sound machine works but i can hear very well and room isn’t far. Thoughts on what I should do first?</p> <p>Trying to get schedule together since he’s been off with sleeping. I nurse to sleep so i would like to stop that during training. Burp well cause he wakes up with gas(gerd baby too). Trying to get him to sleep 1.5-2 hrs like he use to a month ago. He now naps for 30-45 mins. Wakes up every hour at night. Time to train? I don’t mind feeding in the motn but would like to see how this goes.... </p> <p>suggestions? tia </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/taking-cara-babies#post-2851742 Wed, 17 Oct 2018 07:36:38 +0000 FelicityMerriman 2851742@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Has anyone used Taking Cara Babies’ ABC’s of Sleep? We’re really struggling with sleeping through the night and her promise of 14 days to better sleep almost sounds too good to be true. I’m trying to get a better sense of the course and consultations personality/methods before spending the money and getting DH on board to follow the program. </p> <p>I understand that the whole method wouldn’t be put online for free, but I’m thinking of it like before I hired a physical therapist I met with two different ones to better understand their anticipated plan and I could pick the one who I felt best “fit” with me. I am hoping someone has completed the class and can give a non-advertisement assessment of who it would be a good match for, if that makes sense. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-how-to-start#post-2866217 Fri, 11 Jan 2019 22:54:16 +0000 ALV91711 2866217@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>DS2 is 4.5 months old and a terrible sleeper. We know we need to teach him to go to sleep on his own. I’ve been ready the sleep lady shuffle book and we think we will try this. For now our goal is to get him going to sleep in his own. We will tackle the bazillion wakings once he is a bit older. </p> <p>My question is do you just pick a day &amp; start? Should we start on a day when he has napped good or does it matter?</p> <p>He does have a bedtime routine. The only thing that will have to change is he either nurses/rocks to sleep. </p> <p>Any tips/tricks/success stories? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/ferber-just-at-bedtime#post-2860697 Thu, 06 Dec 2018 15:46:56 +0000 jedeve 2860697@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I plan on doing Ferber (progressive waiting check ins) with my 13mo tonight. We’ve been working for the past week on fading interventions and she’s gone from needing to be pacifier-ed/rocked to sleep to just being held. </p> <p>But she is still waking up at least twice a night and being awake for a LONG time. Also her naps can be very short (or she will wake up and want to be held for the rest of it). </p> <p>I want to get her going down awake in hopes that it’ll reduce nighttime wakings. So we plan on starting Ferber tonight. </p> <p>BUT here is my question: should we do it all night? Or just at bedtime to start? She isn’t night weaned. Would letting her cry to sleep and then feeding her mid-night make it worse? Should I feed her and then put her down awake? Should I just go for it all in one swoop? </p> <p>I need some sleep tonight! And I’m anxious about another sleepless night. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-a-reflux-baby#post-2857175 Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:54:24 +0000 Kbee 2857175@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>tl;dr: 5-month old's reflux has improved with my diet changes but her sleep hasn't improved. She MAY still have some reflux symptoms but it's truly hard to tell if it's that or constant cold symptoms. Sleep training appropriate or no? What kind?</p> <p>We're at our wits end with nighttime sleep and our 5-month old! She's a reflux baby, and so over time we've had to institute lots of sleep associations in order to get her to sleep.</p> <p>Now her reflux has improved a lot with my elimination of dairy, soy, eggs, coconut, tomatoes, and some other things. During the day she is super chill, happy, and takes great naps. But she doesn't sleep great at night. About 5 out of 7 nights of the week she still has some coughs and congestion that make me think her reflux is still bothering her a bit, OR that she consistently has symptoms of a cold, but I don't think she's in pain. It takes 1-2 hours to get her down at bedtime, and she wakes up 2-4 times per night. She sleeps in the pack n play bassinet, but when her congestion seems really bad she won't sleep in it and we have to put her in the Rock n Play.</p> <p>Is it appropriate to do some kind of sleep training at this point? My reluctance is that I know it won't work if her reflux is still bothering her, but I honestly can't tell if her sleep difficulties are still due to reflux or if she's just used to waking up a lot. Thanks for reading this far! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/12x12-weeksextending-feeds-with-a-baby-who-doesnt-take-a-paci-how#post-2827399 Sat, 09 Jun 2018 06:55:09 +0000 SweetiePie 2827399@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Very specific and it’s the weekend so I know it’s a long shot...</p> <p>With my first we did 12x12 pretty easily because he took a paci and we could extend each feed by at least 30 mins every night. He’d wake, I’d pop the paci in, he’d sleep anywhere from another 30-60 minutes. We were able to get him sleeping 7-4/5am pretty easily that way and then dropped ounces and CIO to get rid of that last feed. </p> <p>This baby is trickier! He won’t take a paci very often, he usually just spits it out or just won’t let us put it in. So extending him at night is way harder and I have minimal success doing it. I might be able to pick him up and rock him with a paci but I’m not sure that’s going to produce the results I want (meaning I don’t want to teach him that every time he cries at night I come in and rock him). </p> <p>I would really like to just extinction CIO but I’m waiting for our 4 month appt for my doc to say it’s ok (per my other posts about his eating, which has improved dramatically🙌🏼). So until then I’d like to do SOMETHING to get to more consistent, later and later wakeups. Right now he wakes only once, anywhere between 12-3 and the days it’s closer to 12, I feel pretty frustrated. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-trainingnap-schedule-priority#post-2823857 Mon, 21 May 2018 17:09:44 +0000 MsMini 2823857@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Ok, so I have decided the time has come to get LO3 on a schedule and sleep train her. </p> <p>For background LO1 was naturally a terrible sleeper that puked with any sleep training that included pretty much any length of crying so he was up 5+ times per night until he weaned at 16 months old.</p> <p>LO2 was a magical unicorn who STTN and had herself on a great nap routine by 4 weeks old and each sleep regression we just dropped a nap.</p> <p>LO3 did great until 4 months. Nap schedule was pretty all over the place because, well, 3rd baby. Now she is struggling more. Wanting to be rocked down, sleep is all over the place etc.</p> <p>I want to get her on a 2 nap, 3/2/1 schedule. It should work well for my morning trips to drop off kids, go to the gym, do pickups etc. I also need to sleep train her because she wants to be rocked to sleep 24/7.</p> <p>Which would you tackle first? The schedule and rock her if need be to make those 2 naps happen properly, OR the sleep training (we are most comfortable with controlled crying with checks/re-assuring every 5 minutes). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-specific-questions-help#post-2820085 Thu, 03 May 2018 12:25:28 +0000 kayla0416 2820085@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I have decided to do some sleep training with my baby. Please don't try to convince me not to, I'm going to completely lose my sanity if I don't get some sleep soon and my baby is also showing signs of sleep deprivation and is not her normal happy self lately. :( I just need some help figuring out exactly how I should do it.</p> <p>History: She will be 5 months on the 14th. She's never been a great sleeper but some times have been worse than others. Newborn days were typical newborn days, but then from about 2.5-3.5 months, things were much better, she would sleep a stretch of 5-8 hours, and was up 1-3 times per night after that initial chunk. Totally doable and I would be so happy if we could get back to that. Over the last month, her sleep has been getting progressively worse. The last 2 nights she has been up every 30-90 minutes. About half the time I am able to pop her paci back in her mouth and she'll fall back asleep, but the other half that doesn't work and I'll have to nurse and/or rock her back to sleep, sometimes taking up to 45 minutes before I can put her back down without her screaming. I am beyond exhausted and ready to do something about it. </p> <p>Questions/Concerns: She is still swaddled (Halo sleep sack with "wings"). Not rolling yet - can roll up on her side, but seems like she has a ways to go before she'll figure out the full roll. During her month of good sleep, I think she really needed the swaddle, but now I'm not convinced it's helping. She occasionally gets her hands up by her mouth and it wakes her up. Seems like she's fighting the swaddle a bit. So question - do I quit swaddling at the same time? We have experimented a bit with taking one arm out, but then she knocks the paci out of her mouth and can't sleep. My gut tells me that we should do both at the same time so she can maybe use her hands to self-soothe, but then I think I'd have to take away the swaddle and the paci, and that seems like a lot of things to take away at the same time. </p> <p>Other info: She did have an ear infection about a month ago, but has had her 4-month appointment and another clinic visit since then and ears were clear both times. She has not been showing the same symptoms of ear infection that she had (fever, pink eye) since then. I was considering starting last weekend but she had a few days in a row where she didn't poop and seemed very uncomfortable from that, so I put it off. That is cleared up now. No other illness that I know of.</p> <p>I think I will start with doing checks (3 min, 5, 10, etc), but I'm not opposed to extinction if necessary. I am not planning on night weaning at this point because I know she's still young for that, but I'd like to get back to 1-2 feedings again. She is in the 73rd percentile for weight and nurses like a champ, so I know that's not an issue AT ALL. She's EBF and I don't want to start food til 6 mo. I might try something like no nursing before 1am? We aim for sleeping by 6:30-7pm, and I have to wake her at 6:15 to get ready and to daycare/work on time. </p> <p>Anyone have tips for me going into this, or want to share their sleep training experiences??</p> <p>Sorry this was so long and rambling, I can hardly put together cohesive thoughts at this point... Thanks if you read it all. :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/can-you-go-from-one-extreme-to-the-other#post-2813791 Mon, 02 Apr 2018 18:45:44 +0000 PixieStix 2813791@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Here I am again for more advice, only this time it's for our newest addition, our daughter who is 8 Months old.</p> <p>Have any of you gone through sleep training a kiddo, going from one extreme to the other? For us, right now it goes like this: E cosleeps with me and has since the beginning. It's something I don't mind, but ever since that lovely sleep regression that hit at about 3 months, sleep just doesn't come easy.</p> <p>During the night she has several wake ups, but I cannot count them since they're often quick and she falls back asleep with a paci or breast. During the day it's much harder. She only sleeps in the carrier and even then it's hard. With a 4 year old running around, it's not very quiet. So, that coupled with the regression, her naps can be 10 to 30 minutes. Occasionally I can get her to sleep in the swing, but only if I really prepare for it -- and then she sleeps the same amount of time. Needless to say I've been on the schedule of "Lets just make it through this." For a while now I've just chalked it up to "my kids just aren't good sleepers" since her brother was much the same, and still doesn't sleep that great. However, I am starting to think differently. And now that I'm a mother of two and more "broken in" to motherhood, I'm more open to "crying it out" methods and other sleep training methods. We all deserve it, especially my 4 year old who could use some more one on one attention.</p> <p>Alright so thanks for reading. Give me some hope -- tell me I can sleep train my well coddled babe in to being a more independent sleeper. All methods welcomed with an open mind. Much love, from this momma to you. &lt;3 </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/10-month-old-sleep-training-help-need-motivation#post-2810650 Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:58:50 +0000 amfstubbe 2810650@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Hello! </p> <p>We just started sleep training our 10 month old this week. Sleep trained our older son - he was quick to catch on and slept 7pm-7am after 4 days of training him to sleep. This little guy has been a much tougher sleeper since day one, and seems to be stubborn to the core when it comes to this sleep training. He sleeps 2 naps per day, about 1-1.5 hour each. We’re very happy that we’ve worked him up past 40 minute naps and sometimes we even get lucky enough for a 2 hour nap. If he’s had two short naps, we give him an extra nap in the afternoon. The issue is I have fed him at 10 before I go to bed as a dream feed and now it’s really tough to drop. And then he wakes up 4 or so times per night after that. We are doing 10 minute checks on him, and he cries harder and harder every time we go in. :sad: Today he woke up only an hour after bedtime and is still crying 40 minutes later. I guess I just need some encouragement to hang in there. Feeling like it’s impossible this time around!</p> <p>And a question about the pacifier, I only give it to him when he goes to bed but I don’t reinsert it during the checks. Should I? He hasn’t figured out how to bring it to his own mouth while in the crib. </p> <p>His schedule is wake 6-7am (depends a little on the night and also if his big brother wakes him), nap at 9:00 sleep till 10:30, nap at 1:00pm till 2:30ish, bath at 6:15, sleeping by 7pm</p> <p>Thankful for all advice! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/another-sleep-training-post#post-2804614 Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:48:02 +0000 Shopoholicmom 2804614@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>DD is 16 weeks old (will be 4 months next week). Up until now, we've been cosleeping. I'm pretty sure she's hitting the 4 month sleep regression because she's now waking every 2 (sometimes 1!) hours. With 2 other LOs, I just cannot sustain nights under these circumstances and know that we need to sleep train very soon, which includes transitioning her to her crib and nixing the swaddle/paci. That being said, I'm not sure her temperament will allow the CIO method. If I let her, I'm sure she could cry for hours on end (much like her older brother, who took 10 months to sleep train...ugh). </p> <p>I guess I'm just looking for advice/hope. And I'd like to have a plan in place for when we buckle down and officially sleep train. Will CIO work for a baby with her temperament? If your baby was difficult to sleep train, how long did s/he cry for in those first few nights? Send me your success stories! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-sleep-training-issue#post-2802753 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 18:32:54 +0000 littlejoy 2802753@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We're about a month into sleep training, and we're 98% there. We had an illness during weeks 2-3, so we had to do a little reset. Everything is going well, baby falls asleep independently, and is bridging her sleep cycles. </p> <p>My issue is a new wake-up at night. She's waking most nights around 10:30 (6:45-7:15 bedtime). She was making it until 3-4am before waking to eat. </p> <p>We did Ferber training, but really more of an extinction method, because after a week, we found that check-ins were pissing her off. Baby is 6 months old. We have another kiddo in the house, so it is a bit hard to manage this wake up, as baby is LOUD. Any ideas? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-a-1-year-old-help#post-2800995 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 09:51:26 +0000 NorthStar 2800995@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Our little guy turns one on Valentine's Day and is still not sleeping through the night. I am losing my mind, so I think that I'm ready to sleep train very soon. I read on one of the Hellobee posts and it isn't a good time to sleep train between 10-11 months, so that is why I've waited. </p> <p>From 2 months - 6.5months he was sleeping 10 hour stretches, but since then has been waking 2-3x per night. Lately, this has been his routine: Prior to bed, is books, new diaper, pajamas, sleep sack, etc. Around 6 or 6:15, I begin nursing him and then he's down in his crib to go to sleep around 6:30. Sometimes, he is completely out, but other times, he's still drowsy. So, then he rolls around a bit before falling asleep. Lately, his wake-ups have been around 10:30, 2:30, 4:30. For the past week, I've had a heck of a time getting him back asleep after his 4:30 wakeup, so he ends up whining and crying in his crib until we get him up for the day around 5:30 or 5:45 (since we are up anyway getting ready for work). At night, I try to let him whine some, but realistically, I tend to go in there, nurse him and he goes back to sleep for awhile. There was one night last week where I let him cry for almost an hour and when he didn't give up, I went in there to feed him. </p> <p>Other info: </p> <p>*He goes to daycare and drinks breastmilk from a straw cup while there. He hasn't been taking bottles there for two weeks and seems to go down for naps ok.<br /> *He's maybe drinking 6-10 oz of milk at daycare. We've tried increasing it, with little luck. But, he's an amazing eater, so I know that he's eating enough.<br /> *At home on the weekends, I nurse him before his 2 naps and before bed (as well as during the night wake-ups). Otherwise, he drinks from his straw cups at meals and snacks.<br /> *He is still taking 2 naps per day (morning and afternoon). They average 45 minutes - 1.5 hours each. He is definitely not ready to drop that morning nap yet.<br /> *He was 20 lbs at his 9 month appt and I would guess he is close to 22 lbs currently. Clearly, he does not need to be eating at night (insert eye roll).<br /> *We cloth diaper, so maybe I need to change to disposables. Perhaps, he is feeling some wetness, which might be waking him up.</p> <p>I don't know what I'm looking for. Commiseration? Ideas of what worked for you? I just know that continuing to get only 2-3 hour stretches of sleep is NOT working and mama needs some rest. I am also getting close to the point of weaning as I am ready to be done pumping at work. So, I think that we will be night weaning as well as sleep training. I am ok with still nursing some during the day for at least a bit longer. I also don't know if he's getting enough to drink prior to bed as I am sure my milk supply has decreased significantly. But, I also don't want to introduce a bottle prior to bed if he hasn't had one in a few weeks. Plus, he doesn't love the bottle and only wants me prior to bed.</p> <p>Thanks for letting me vent and I'm open to suggestions! :heart: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/pacifier-and-checks#post-2800652 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 19:56:48 +0000 annem1990 2800652@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>LO is 4.5 months old. Although I'm not sure we are officially "sleep training" because I still expect him to wake at night to eat, we are trying to get some sleep routines in place. My question relates to the beginning of the night...</p> <p>We've been doing a sort of Ferber method. We do our routine, and I rock him with his pacifier. He goes in his bed barely awake and then we go in to check in 5ish min increments. He will cry/groan a bit but it rarely escalates between checks. When we go back in, I usually pat him and then put the pacifier back in. After a few of these checks, he will fall asleep. </p> <p>Are we hindering the entire process by putting his pacifier back? Do I need to do the checks without giving him it back? I feel bad taking it away because it definitely helps him calm down, but I don't want to create a bad sleep crutch. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/i-need-reassurance-for-sleep-training#post-2797506 Tue, 16 Jan 2018 17:58:37 +0000 littlejoy 2797506@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We are sleep training our 5.5 month old this week. We're doing what most closely resembles Ferber (I didn't read the book, but we are laying down when awake, no props, intervalled check-ins (our check-ins are mostly verbal - sometimes we'll pat for 30 seconds but that seems to ramp her up)). </p> <p>We've successfully removed nursing from bedtime, and I think we have a solid routine. </p> <p>I've Googled "why sleep training is failing", and I feel like we have covered all of the pointers (consistent schedule, good routine, no props, laying baby down when awake, noise machine, dark room, etc.). </p> <p>We're on day 4, and it's HORRIBLE! She's crying for 15-30 min before naps, generally just very unhappy during the day (she's usually such a happy baby), and at night, she's crying for 45 min, sleeping 45 min, and waking up again to cry more. As soon as we walk into the room to start the routine (sleep sack and song), she starts crying. She used to be okay being left to play for a bit on the floor (during the day if I needed to do a quick chore), and now she screams as soon as I sit her down. She's associating our room and being put down with being left alone. :( </p> <p>The first few days were hard, but it seemed to get progressively better. Yesterday and today have been so, so hard. I need encouragement. I'm feeling really upset by hearing her cry. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/am-i-crazy-to-sleep-train#post-2795709 Tue, 09 Jan 2018 07:33:04 +0000 Mamag511 2795709@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My almost 4 month old is waking up every 1.5/2 hours here. I don’t think it’s a regression because he has always woken up this much since birth. Just trying to figure out if sleep training is worth a shot because I am losing my mind. I just worry because he is still so little and I don’t want to do it too early.</p> <p>I do think he needs one feeding overnight, but don’t think he needs the others because when I try and give him a bottle he drinks like half an ounce. I’ve tried to give a pacifier and he just screams louder, so I’m thinking I might just need to cut out the bottles other than the one feeding. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-to-drop-one-feeding-questions#post-2796225 Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:57:37 +0000 winniebee 2796225@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>G is almost 7 months old and for the last month has been waking every 3 hours to eat. I am committed to getting down to just one overnight feeding (because he intermittently does it and I know he can). He is EBF, not really into solids yet. </p> <p>I decided I wouldn't feed him before 2 a.m. Last night, went to bed at 8, slept until 1 -- then cried off and on for over an hour (ETA - he fell back asleep on his own without me going in). Slept til 4:30 and I fed him....and he slept til 8. </p> <p>Is that a good result? Is it confusing to make him cry at one waking, but then go in at a later waking to feed him?</p> <p>Thanks! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-teaching-for-almost-2-weeks#post-2792537 Mon, 18 Dec 2017 19:43:36 +0000 cake2017 2792537@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>How long is this going to take to see a change?! </p> <p>I am doing both naps and nights. He still fights his crib at night. He knows how to fall back to sleep but will cry and then go back. It’s sometimes longer than what I thought this would take.....</p> <p>We have a strict bedtime routine. He is down at 7pm. The first nap he goes down without a problem. The other 2 naps he wants to be held /nurse and will cry. I still nurse him twice at night because I want to. I also nurse right before he goes down/burp and that gets him “drowsy but awake”... the moment we walk to the crib he’s up!!!! </p> <p>I don’t know when the sleep teaching will be over....???? </p> <p>How much longer of this! :/ </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gentle-sleep-training#post-2787508 Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:07:37 +0000 littlejoy 2787508@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>It's been 4 years since we last did sleep training (and then, we didn't approach til 6 months). Our little one is nearing 4 months and we'd like suggestions on gentle methods. I'm ok with general fussing, but we won't do CIO. Was there a book or website that helped you? </p> <p>Right now, we nurse to sleep and roomshare. We will still roomshare, but I'd like to take nursing to sleep out of the equation (in case this detail changes the book/resource you'd recommend). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/a-4-month-old-boob-monster#post-2790376 Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:27:19 +0000 littlejoy 2790376@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Help me remove the boob from bedtime!! Our 4 month old is ready for some sleep learning. We won't do CIO, but we're also still currently trying to figure out what works best for our family. Our main struggle is that over the last week, I've realized she's like an addict for my boobs at bedtime (and all wakeups). We can't seem to get her past that 40 min sleep cycle, because she doesn't know how to soothe herself back to sleep - this is the main reason we're doing sleep training, and why I really want to remove the nursing piece. She won't take a paci.</p> <p>Naps are easy to remove feedings before sleep, but right now, she's napping in the carrier. :( </p> <p>What did your bedtime routine look like when you started sleep training?? I'm not sure when to feed her (so she doesn't fall asleep) in the routine.</p> <p>ETA: I'm a "just enougher" with my supply, and we give her a 2 ounce bottle of pumped milk in addition to her nursing before bed. I'd have to pump, but I would be willing to just do 3.5 ounces of milk in a bottle if it makes it easier to get away from nursing to sleep. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-long-does-the-extinction-burst-last#post-2784930 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:06:47 +0000 MsBAM 2784930@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Hi all,</p> <p>I just finished night 9 of sleep training tonight on my 5mo and I’m questioning if it’s working and how long the sleep extinction burst should last. I feel so guilty and don’t know how much longer I can do this if things don’t improve. Here are the results so far, please let me know if they look normal. </p> <p>Night 1: 20 mins<br /> Night 2: Less than 30 seconds<br /> Night 3: A few seconds<br /> Night 4: 6 minutes<br /> Night 5: 2 minutes<br /> Night 6: 24 minutes<br /> Night 7: 13 minutes<br /> Night 8: 4 mins<br /> Night 9: 23 minutes of hard crying </p> <p>Tonight (night 9) was a disaster and I’m feeling so guilty and sad right now :( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-success-1#post-2783592 Wed, 01 Nov 2017 19:23:38 +0000 MsBAM 2783592@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Hi everyone!</p> <p>Well, I was so nervous to start sleeping training my 5mo and I finally worked up the guts to do it! I decided to go ahead with it when one night we discovered he can put himself to sleep. He fell asleep on his own crying (for 5-10min) one evening in the living room when I was showering and DH was doing laundry. He would always fall asleep nursing.</p> <p>I started sleep training three nights ago. The first night I stayed with him and patted his back once in a while. He cried for 20mins then fell asleep. The second night he cried for not even thirty seconds and tonight he went down with a simple fuss for a few seconds and fell asleep!!! I feed him before he sleeps but he does go down awake bc I wake him up after he eats and he always wakes up when I put him down too. I might try feeding him a bit earlier to see if things still go well. </p> <p>We are still cosleeping but I plan to gradually move him to his crib. I’m just happy he seems to be learning this so quickly! He’s still getting up twice a night to eat so I still nurse him at night.</p> <p>Is there anything I should be doing differently aside from putting him in his crib? Or does this sound like progress re: sleep training him? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/co-sleep-amp-pottys-training#post-2784444 Mon, 06 Nov 2017 11:58:24 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 2784444@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>After the first of year LO for sure will be in the next room at daycare where potty training begins. Last night it just hit me that there may be accidents in my bed since we co-sleep. Having LO sleep in his own bed would be a good idea at this point just for the sake of keeping my bed dry. We put him in an overnight Pamper for now since it works better than his Cruisers at night since they are so absorbant. If he wears Pull ups to bed will I even need to worry about accidents in my bed? </p> <p>The other night my dad babysat and LO started off in his crib just fine. Is it time to just to make sleeping in his room a thing? I know DH would love it because when he’s home he ends up sleeping on the couch since LO takes up the middle and his side of th bed. </p>