https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Mon, 27 Apr 2026 00:05:20 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-976337 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:31:42 +0000 travellingbee 976337@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Thanks for all the input. Good points about the angel care. It just freaks me out that he is face down. Modified Ferber might be the answer in the end but I'll try to hold off a little longer. He is napping great today 3 1/2 hours so far! So I'm interested to see how tonight goes. I might go to bed at 7 when he does! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975894 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:51:59 +0000 regberadaisy 975894@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We went through a 4 month sleep regression for 3.5 months so I hear ya! I was also working FT...that's when decaf came back into my life!</p> <p>I succumbed to CIO it once and it did jack for me. My LO could cry longer than an hour and each night she actually cried longer. Sigh. I gave up on night 3.</p> <p>I just learned to live off of minimal sleep.</p> <p>GL! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975884 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:48:55 +0000 immabeetoo 975884@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>In this instance, I think you're going to have to ride it out until he gets better at rolling himself. Lots of practice time during the day! I wouldn't flip him or try to prevent him from rolling in his crib - and honestly an angelcare is going to give you false alarms if he is mobile in the crib (we had one and sold it). If he's that strong, he can sleep on his tummy safely! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975799 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:31:41 +0000 hilsy85 975799@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We went through this as well...for us, it got better after a few weeks when he learned how to roll back to his back and could do it consistently, even when half asleep. But then he started prefering to sleep on his tummy. I would definitely not stress about tummy sleeping at his age, so I wouldn't worry about getting an angel care monitor. Honestly, I think your options are to either wait it out (and keep flipping him back when he cries on his tummy) or do some sort of sleep training. We eventually had to do that, and used a modified CIO where we would do checks and soothe him but not move him back to his back. </p> <p>Also 4.5 month is an age of HUGE sleep changes/transitions--it's right in the middle of the 4 month sleep regression. If you can, I would give it another few weeks, and see if he improves on his own. If not, then at least you'll be closer to the optimal time to sleep train if that's what you decide to do. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975648 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:55:47 +0000 MsLipGloss 975648@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@PrincessBaby: CIO does make you tougher! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975640 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:54:28 +0000 PrincessBaby 975640@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. High Heels: Exactly! He takes care of everything he needs to do and I end up starting 5 different things 20 different times only to never get even 1 thing completed. Meanwhile, he thinks nothing of sitting on the laptop or phone forever handling his personal business. I know he has to do that stuff but SO DO I!</p> <p>I digress! Sorry to threadjack- but my point is that CIO toughened me up! I'm hard core now, lol! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975636 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:53:09 +0000 Mrs. High Heels 975636@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@PrincessBaby: Lol hahaha now that's my kinda guy hahaha ! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975634 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:52:04 +0000 PrincessBaby 975634@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. High Heels: DH just texted me, "Let us know when we are allowed home" LOL </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975632 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:51:36 +0000 Mrs. High Heels 975632@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@PrincessBaby: seriously, good for you! Our DH's never feel guilty for taking time to themselves so why should we. :happy: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975623 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:48:49 +0000 PrincessBaby 975623@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. High Heels: I do! I personally am still very proud of myself and he was pretty baffled by all this time we have together now! He thinks it's kind of crazy, lol...And it also has helped me to be tougher on the whole... I had to kick them out today so I could take care of bills, laundry, and some stuff for a wedding I'm in and I can't get anything done with H around, even while he's here. So I got her dressed, and handed her over and forced them out. No guilt here. I told them I do not want to see them for 2 hours. I think the CIO made me tougher, in general:) If I survived that, nothing else is that big of a deal. So I'm totally okay with doing things like telling him to get the heck out of here with our daughter:) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975604 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:42:55 +0000 Mrs. High Heels 975604@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@PrincessBaby: your DH is insanely lucky that you did CIO when he wasn't around and now he gets to reap the benefits! You deserve a momcation after that!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975508 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:21:03 +0000 Smurfette 975508@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@PrincessBaby: That is what our pediatrician told me when I mentioned she immediately rolls over when I put her in the crib. She said if she is putting herself that way, just leave her. But she also isn't crying, she seems to like it better. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975506 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:20:42 +0000 PurpleUnicorn 975506@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@PrincessBaby: we did this too in the beginning, flip him back, but he kept rolling back to his tummy! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975499 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:19:13 +0000 PurpleUnicorn 975499@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: yes! i swear by making them more comfortable. all the safety recommendations are basically things that i would myself would not be comfortable sleeping in. Oh and I said we gave a blanket, but recently took it away because he would just kick it off and not use it anyway. </p> <p>The last thing I forgot to mention was last week we got a bumper because it seemed that his one wake up happened when he rolled into the side of the crib and hit his head or stick a limb through the slats. So the first night with the bumper, he had zero wake ups! Now i even see him on the monitor sleeping with his back curled up against the corner of the crib/bumper and i think he is comfortable like that! so the bumper was a huge factor too. </p> <p>He also started sleeping more and better when i moved his bedtime down closer to 7pm and i think he wakes up once because he just can't go 12 hours without one nursing session which i am okay with. So ya, i think there are LOTS of things you can try before CIO. And as anti-CIO as i am, i will admit to letting those thoughts cross my mind during the worst of times, but decided I cannot even go there until i could confidently say I tried everything else and then I didn't have to!</p> <p>To specifically answer your question, L does sleep peacefully on his tummy. We start him out on his back, then he rolls to his tummy or side at some point, sometimes he rolls more than once, and he stays asleep. Our only problem now is that in his sleep he sometimes rolls to his tummy then reflexively goes into sitting up position and THAT wakes him up! But like i said, he wakes once a night on a average, sometimes none.</p> <p>ETA: I just wanted to emphasize that before we got the new mattress, we also thought we should because he was not only rolling, but squirming around and LOOKED like he was trying to get comfortable. It was just so different from how he napped on the queen soft bed we have, but of course i could not sleep in the bed overnight night because i couldn't watch him on the monitor! i joked to DH that we just need to build a crib around the queen mattress and then our problems would be solved! Lol, or cut the queen mattress to fit the crib. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975475 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:13:42 +0000 PrincessBaby 975475@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Oh and one final thought - if he's rolling all around the crib and covering a lot of ground, he'll probably roll off the sensor for the AC monitor and you'll get false alarms:( </p> <p>We used the snuza halo monitor but once she started rolling it would get moved and cause false alarms and I almost died of a heart attack on more than one occasion when I was woken up by that alarm going off telling me my daughter wasn't breathing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975450 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:09:18 +0000 PrincessBaby 975450@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>And I also freaked about tummy sleep at first and would roll her back over, but I researched it a ton and even asked msJacks on here and the general consensus is that at 4 months, babies have the same instinct that we do - that if something is restricting their breathing - they know to move, instinctively. So that made me feel a lot better...And even if I moved her, I'd wake up and see on the monitor that she was on her tummy again, and I couldn't risk waking her up AGAIN to flip her. So I just went with it and she was always fine:) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975443 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:06:42 +0000 PrincessBaby 975443@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: My LO's sleep fell apart when she started rolling. It never recovered (Sorry!!!). She went from usually STTN to waking up anywhere between 2-5x per night. SUCKED! I nursed her to sleep, and it became apparent that when she would roll and wake herself up, she didn't know how to go back to sleep. She would wake up and freak out bc in her little sweet mind, she NEEDED boob to go back to sleep. </p> <p>I debated sleep training her after a couple of months of this. But we were about to move and I thought it would be pointless to do it bc moving would disturb her sleep. So I toughed it out in misery and then I finally hit my wit's end right after she turned 7 months and I ended up sleep training. I started with Ferber, but she got extra super pissed off when I did checks, so I had to do full extinction method. Which I didn't think I would ever do. But 3 months of broken sleep had taken it's toll and I just decided that I couldn't take it anymore.</p> <p>I think 4 months is on the early cusp of being able to sleep train, but it's in the realm. And if you are not considering CIO yet, then you are just not miserable enough. I say all the time that sleep training is not for the mildly inconvenienced. You have to be FED the F up. You have to be pulling out your hair. You have to feel like a zombie. You have to know that hurt behind your eyeballs from being so exhausted. You have to know how it feels to pull yourself out of bed again, when you had only just fell asleep from the last wakeup. </p> <p>I don't know of another method. But I will tell you that you'll be hard pressed to find someone that gave CIO a 100% effort and had poor results. You can't cheat on CIO. Babies are smart. If you flail, if you falter - they catch on. And they'll just keep on crying until the break you down. It sucks so hard. I sat in my bathroom on many a night (It took us about 7 to be generally pain-free, or just crying for a few seconds) with the vent on and cried my face off.</p> <p>Our results: My daughter goes to sleep by 7pm every night and sleeps until 7am the next morning. If she wakes up at any point, I have a 15 minute time limit before I will go in. She has never hit that time limit. It has meant INSANELY good things for me - I feel like a different person, and I feel like she is better for it. It was a painful week, but she doesn't remember, and she is sleeping so much better now- I know I did the right thing for her in the long run. As a bonus, it's now super awesome time for me and my DH every night. She goes down and we have several hours to ourselves to do whatever we want, and we know when we go to bed that we're also going to get a good night's rest.</p> <p>So that's my 2 cents....If you continue to be driven insane, CIO is not the devil... It's actually a lifesaver, but hopefully you will not have to get to that point and your LO will recover! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975427 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:02:38 +0000 travellingbee 975427@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@PurpleUnicorn: Oh interesting! So now he rolls to his tummy and keeps sleeping? I was wondering if maybe I just need to help him get used to sleeping on his tummy. Maybe making him more comfy will help. Thanks!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975424 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:02:14 +0000 sotofamilia 975424@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: No, no rolling yet... but I feel like I've seen posts with this problem before and the advice has been that babies just kind of outgrow it, but I don't know!</p> <p>Sleep deprivation is no joke though.... I can handle one wake-up, but two, three, four makes me feel like a zombie. My husband and I are going to divide and conquer tonight where I take the first wake-up, he takes the second, etc., because there is just no way I can function on less than three hours of uninterrupted sleep.</p> <p>Sorry I wrote a novel, you can probably tell that baby sleep is a topic of much interest in the sotofamilia household right now! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975412 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:58:55 +0000 PurpleUnicorn 975412@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>L's sleep went to crap from about 5 months until recently (8 months). It hit a bad peak in there too. It was the same as you described, so the first thing i can tell you is that it will hopefully pass. Even it seems like it won't, it will.</p> <p>I also was not into CIO, so i tried just about everything else. I co-slept, which worked sometimes. Now that he crawls, i am too afraid to that and he just moves around too much so i really can't sleep.</p> <p>Anyway, so the mains things we did was make him more comfortable. We noticed that when we let him nap in a comfy, soft queen size bed, he would nap straight for up to 2 hours, no rolling, nothing! he slept like a king in a queen bed, lol. Plus i had another friend that said the first night they got a softer mattress, her baby slept 10 hours straight! So we got a softer mattress (we got one with a "toddler side" and used that side right away), we stopped using sleep sacks and gave him a blanket, and we also got blackout curtains and made sure a fan was always on in his room (air conditioner was installed too for heat waves). All this combined has led to a baby that sleeps all night with 1 wake up, sometimes none, 2 wakeups on a bad night. He still rolls over in his sleep, but he will stay asleep.</p> <p>bottom line i learned - make the baby as comfortable as YOU need to be to sleep! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975383 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:51:08 +0000 travellingbee 975383@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@sotofamilia: Thanks for commiserating! Does your little one roll and get stuck too? I hope someone who made it through the Rolling Baby Syndrome can give us some help :) </p> <p>Maybe I just need to wait it out until he is able to roll back to his back again? C'mon baby!! Momma needs some sleep! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975335 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:40:25 +0000 sotofamilia 975335@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: no advice, hopefully someone else can help...but LOTS of support and commiseration...my 5.5 month old woke up four times last night and I have to work today. It's brutal. I hope things get better for you and I'll be reading along with any advice you get! :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975297 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:32:24 +0000 travellingbee 975297@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Nothing? Any thoughts at all would be appreciated... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/losing-my-sleep-deprived-mind-wwyd#post-975046 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:21:38 +0000 travellingbee 975046@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My 4 month old was a champion sleeper until a few weeks ago when he started rolling. Now he is up constantly, rolling to his tummy and then waking up screaming. We have tried putting rolled up towels underneath the sheet and he still somehow ends up on his tummy. I need to do SOMETHING because I haven't gotten more than 2-3 consecutive hours of sleep in the past 3 weeks. I go back to work in 2 weeks and am worried I will be a zombie. OK so here are the options I have thought of:<br /> -Hire a sleep coach<br /> -Find some sort of sleep training book/program without CIO. I just don't love the idea of CIO<br /> -Help him learn to sleep on belly and maybe buy an Angel care monitor for my own peace of mind? (ex. he is currently napping on his tummy with his face planted into the mattress. It totally freaks me out)<br /> -????? </p> <p>What to do?! </p>