https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sat, 18 Apr 2026 04:28:07 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821995 Fri, 11 May 2018 12:22:41 +0000 alphagam84 2821995@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Don't feel bad asking for what you deserve! No man would be shy about asking for what he wanted! Especially since the company approached you. Ask for 20% more and the additional PTO days you want and don't take no for an answer. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821985 Fri, 11 May 2018 12:01:29 +0000 jennlin821 2821985@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@peaches1038: :heart: !!!<br /> I'm 10+ years into my career, and a dancer/actress so I've never really struggled with confidence. My DH went back to school, is new in his career and struggles a bit with imposter syndrome, so I'm always having these conversations with him. :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821967 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:53:49 +0000 peaches1038 2821967@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jennlin821: also, I just texted this line to DH “Take yourself out of the headspace that you need to justify yourself or your requests. They need to justify to you why your requests can't be accommodated.” And he was like BOOM! That bee KNOWS IT. Hahah </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821964 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:51:03 +0000 peaches1038 2821964@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@teawithpaloma: I’m going to blast that before the call!! Woot!<br /> @jennlin821: thank you! Those are fantastic ideas. I’d love any resources you have!<br /> @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: that is awesome! And a good call on keeping it separate. Thank you! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821961 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:44:55 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 2821961@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@peaches1038: I wouldn’t go into details, but that’s me being super sensitive about keeping work and my personal life separate. You know what you need to do get the job done; work doesn’t need to be burdened. Every time my manager asks me to go out of town he never takes my word for it when I say yes and is like go ask your DH. Finally, I had to tell him let me worry about the how and accept my yes. LOL</p> <p>@jennlin821: what she said! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821960 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:44:20 +0000 jennlin821 2821960@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@peaches1038: My husband and I just moved cross country over the summer so we did a lot of negotiating - my notes and emails are all pretty handy and I do a lot of business writing for my job, so I'm happy to help!</p> <p>Also in reference to your questions to Mrs. Lemon-Lime, you do not need to justify yourself at all. In all my research, pretty much the only time that appropriate to talk about added expenses is if you are moving for the position.<br /> Take yourself out of the headspace that you need to justify yourself or your requests. They need to justify to you why your requests can't be accommodated.<br /> Keep in mind other types of perks, such as student loan reimbursements, mortgage help, memberships, continuing education credits, etc. Or perhaps bonuses for reaching certain milestones, scheduling in a day off a month unrelated to PTO etc. think outside the box! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821957 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:35:27 +0000 teawithpaloma 2821957@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@psw27: i just replay beyonce's sorry "Sorry, I ain't sorry" when I am psyching myself out and need a boost. We are worth the damn world.... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821956 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:28:39 +0000 teawithpaloma 2821956@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@peaches1038: yes, yes, girl, get it, get it.. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821955 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:26:42 +0000 peaches1038 2821955@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Thank you all so much! I LOVED the article that @teawithpaloma shared. And it’s right, I shouldn’t be sorry to get compenstated for what I’m worth. I’ve really considered everyone’s input and have decided to ask for a larger increase and a sign on bonus, as well as specific hours and increased vacation time.<br /> @gingerbebe: this is really helpful, thank you!<br /> @Mrs. Tiger: thanks! That’s awesome you got more than you asked for!<br /> @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: thank you! Do you think it’s ok to discuss how my expenses will be increasing to partly justify the $$? Of course, I will be focused on the responsibilities and how my skills and training will directly benefit the program.<br /> @jennlin821: this is amazingly helpful. Thank you so much! I’m going to wall you!<br /> @BUNBUN: I’ll check that out, thanks!<br /> @teawithpaloma: thank you! Congrats on your new job! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821954 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:26:15 +0000 psw27 2821954@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@teawithpaloma: This article just gave me a little boost to realize that I've gotta do something. Rut central over here! Thanks for sharing! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821953 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:25:46 +0000 psw27 2821953@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Congrats! As others have said - ask for more money! A man would and why the heck shouldn't we?! I think I always feel like I need to be polite and apologetic. And I should not! They reached out to you and they want you to start, manage and administrate. That really is three jobs. I say aim for the stars and see where you land. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821952 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:21:49 +0000 teawithpaloma 2821952@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bees_knees: @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: yessss!! we are literally brainwashed not to be seen as wanting money... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821947 Fri, 11 May 2018 10:03:39 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 2821947@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@teawithpaloma: love this! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821944 Fri, 11 May 2018 09:57:59 +0000 bees_knees 2821944@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@teawithpaloma: that article straight up gave me goosebumps </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821940 Fri, 11 May 2018 09:47:38 +0000 teawithpaloma 2821940@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/women-want-to-be-rich.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/women-want-to-be-rich.html</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821926 Fri, 11 May 2018 08:47:02 +0000 BUNBUN 2821926@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Congratulations, what a fabulous opportunity! I think the advice above is great, and if you're looking for more negotiating advice, I really like this website:<br /> <a href="http://askamanager.org" rel="nofollow">http://askamanager.org</a><br /> I would also consider including how many people, how many hours, and at what levels you would ideally like to see working under you. A friend's dream-job department started experiencing staff cut-backs after 5 years, and I wonder if the staffing would have been sustained if it had been explicit in the original contract with the department head. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821919 Fri, 11 May 2018 08:10:36 +0000 teawithpaloma 2821919@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jennlin821: what you said. 30% is bare minimum for me to switch positions - to do what you described, 75%-100% increase is absolutely acceptable </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821915 Fri, 11 May 2018 07:53:47 +0000 jennlin821 2821915@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>1) You are worth it.<br /> 2) they approached you to start a new SPECIALIZED department, which includes all your current duties, plus all the administrative work that goes into it, plus the sweat equity of creating a department from scratch. That is three jobs compared to the one you are doing now.<br /> 3)This will be a bit of upheaval in your personal life</p> <p>So here is what you need to think about and decide:<br /> -Do you want the additional work? What will happen to you work/life balance?<br /> -Do you want to give up the patient facing part of your job? You will probably no longer see patients, just manage everything else.<br /> -What is the impact it will have on your personal life?<br /> -What is the impact it will have on your family?</p> <p>Definitely do research into other similar positions - I know you are pretty specialized, so be sure to compare other similar type specialty departments. If you are uncomfortable reaching out in person, perhaps try your PT school. </p> <p>Figure out exactly what you want, and an additional wish list. Decide what are your 'hard-stops', the non-negotiables. Then decide on your wish list. </p> <p>Present the whole list (say its 20 items) and be prepared to negotiate down and not move on your hard-stops. </p> <p>If you ask for 20 things, you'll get 10. If you ask for 50, you'll get 25. </p> <p>Last thing - a 20% raise is not enough. They want you to be a freaking director of a department! I would not take less than a 50% raise, and I would ask for a 100% raise, and negotiation is down to a 75% raise. However, this might be the wrong thinking. Your not getting a raise, you are changing jobs. What do department directors get paid - research that. </p> <p>I'd be willing to help you with your lists and wording your requests if you'd like! </p> <p>And CONGRATULATIONS!!! this sounds like an amazing opportunity!. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821887 Fri, 11 May 2018 05:56:26 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 2821887@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Don’t feel bad for knowing and asking what you will need in order for you to say “yes.” </p> <p>Changing jobs may mean changes in your expenses at home, or work ( new clothes/ commuted), added stresses etc. Put a figure on it and ask. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821885 Fri, 11 May 2018 05:37:09 +0000 teawithpaloma 2821885@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I just changed jobs and got a 30% raise and a signing bonus. You should ask for a at least 30% more for all of those responsibilities! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821882 Fri, 11 May 2018 05:33:04 +0000 Mrs. Tiger 2821882@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I grew up with a certain expectation that $X salary was plenty and when my own salary exceeded that I started feeling weird about raises, and when I changed jobs last year I asked for a modest increase (10%) and it ended up at 20% which was awesome! They offered more since I am paid through a contract so they always want to make your rate as high as the customer will accept so they can make the most off of you, I understand most positions won't be like that. </p> <p>All this to say its good you are recognizing you're undervaluing yourself, ask for what you deserve! If it's too high they will negotiate with you if they want you 😊 good luck! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821875 Fri, 11 May 2018 01:06:11 +0000 gingerbebe 2821875@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Are there any comparable programs nationwide that you can compare to for salary purposes? I would to run comps on similar programs and see what those folks make. Also: Women tend to more often think of extra responsibilities and duties or even title changes as recognition for their skills and abilities that in and of itself has some kind of value. Thus they’re sometimes willing to take less money. More often men look at it in terms of it being more work and thus aggressively demand more benefits, more money, more everything. I’m obviously over generalizing but my point is, it would be an enormous amount of work to move into that position and to me, 20% higher than what you currently make seems low. I would be more interested in what someone who manages, directs, leads, or heads a<br /> Specialized PT clinic program for a major health system makes, average out the salary across a few different clinics and then ask for that. Possibly more if your area is very specialized. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/job-offer-negotiations#post-2821874 Thu, 10 May 2018 23:59:37 +0000 peaches1038 2821874@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am terrible at negotiating and always undervalue myself. I am a highly specialized physical therapist (doctorate and several specialized certifications that not many people have) and just got approached by another hospital about a job. They want me to start a new program and have administrative duties that include getting this new program off the ground, being involved with hiring additional staff and managing day to day workflow. They have sent me all of the benefits and they are comparable to my current benefits. I am planning on asking for a large increase (about 20%, though they don’t know my current salary, and possibly more vacation time) and am wondering if anyone has any tips on handeling negotiations? I am specifically worried because I feel “bad” that I’m asking for so much even though it’s an appropriate amount. I don’t need this job and it would involve moving DS to a new daycare, but I think the challenge sounds exciting and I wouldn’t say no to a raise even though it’ll be more work. Anyway, thank for reading my rambles and if you have any tips or just good luck vibes, I’d appreciate it! </p>