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<title>Hellobee Boards Tag: soothie</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 23:07:44 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>tororojo on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-720996</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I bought a Wubbanub (the dog) this weekend and it has been such a lifesaver! I got it after a horrendous car ride where she screamed for most of the way and I couldn't pull over on the highway...ugh. Makes car rides better and also showers are more peaceful, but it isn't perfect. Will be great when she can keep it in herself!
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<title>shopaholic on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-718218</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>shopaholic</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@pinkb:  OMG - I totally thought of doing that today, but wasn't sure if it was okay or like a negligent mommy thing!  lol!  Thankfully she was okay once it fell out.
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<title>pinkb on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-718204</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@shopaholic: I think they are all really light! We have the giraffe and it is light. At first I thought it was a waste of money cause it didnt seem to help but now that LO is a bit older and bigger I love it! not sure it would work with the other animals but with the one we have I can tuck the giraffes legs in the straps of the car seat and it says right in place.
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<title>blackbird on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-718191</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>blackbird</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@smirfette-we have the elephant and it stays in unless she flops around like crazy. She spits regular pacis out so fast with her forceful suck-they projectile fly out of her mouth .
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<title>shopaholic on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-718177</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>shopaholic</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@rattles:  Great idea!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@sorrycharlie:  That's what I would think too!  They are just like the regular soothies, but just one size?  I assumed you could have just changed them out and the animal was just a holder.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@Smurfette:  They are just like the regular Avent soothies.  I read they were kind of heavier so they could stay in the mouth more.  I tested it on K today during our drive and it didn't stay in her mouth!  lol!  But we have the lamb, and it seems really light!
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<title>Smurfette on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-718010</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Smurfette</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Do these really work? LO doesn't love her pacifier but when she does take it, she can't keep it in her mouth.  I really want her to take one cause I know it would comfort her.
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<title>sorrycharlie on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-718003</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>sorrycharlie</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I rinse the animal under the sink (hot water) but the instructions say you can machine wash in a lingerie bag. honestly, DH's work clothes are so dirty that I don't like to wash it in the washer cause I feel like all the dirt doesn't come out of the washer after his work load anyway. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@Mrs Green Grass:  if they came apart (stuffed animal from soothie), wouldn't it be the same hazard as giving the baby a regular soothie?
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<title>MsInformation on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-717958</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>MsInformation</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Like @rattles, we wash them in a mesh lingerie bag when we do the laundry. That's a good trick about boiling them with the animal part on the handle! I hadn't thought of that.
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<title>Mrs Green Grass on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-717908</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mrs Green Grass</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I machine wash. They have to be &#34;one piece&#34; or else it would be a choking hazard.
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<title>rattles on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-717895</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>rattles</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I wash the stuffed animal in the washing machine in a lingerie bag and boil the soothie with the animal resting on the pot's handle. LO loves hers, so we have two and they get cleaned often. They've held up well!
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<title>LemonLong on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-717859</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>LemonLong</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I was only the soothie mostly, but I have thrown the whole thing in the washer using cold water and let it air dry.  It didn't take too long for it to air dry.
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<title>littlek on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-717763</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>littlek</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;We would dunk the paci part in hot water.  LO used this when he was really young, so the stuffed animal didn't get that dirty.
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<title>blackbird on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-717722</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>blackbird</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What if you set it outside in the sun (when it warms up)? I've wondered the same thing, though.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Eta: in the sun after machine washing. My brain. Ugh.
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<title>mrsjyw on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-717577</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>mrsjyw</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yep, we usually just rinse the soothie part with hot water... we have washed the animal part of it too just not as often
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<title>shopaholic on "WubbaNub"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/wubbanub#post-717570</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>shopaholic</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;This might be a totally stupid question but for those of you that own the Wubbanub pacifier things are they not separable? You can't wash the stuffed animal and the soothie separately?  Seems strange to me.  We got one as a gift and I took it out of the package. It says to just wash the soothie part in warm water but seems like the stuffed animal part woul get wet a bit and then you have to let it dry or you're giving baby basically a damp rag?
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<title>shopaholic on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-682740</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>shopaholic</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@hilsy85:  Seriously!  Every day it's something different or whatever works is just so temporary!  I think we have a couple other pacifiers we were given, will go look for them now.  This mama is tired!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@T-Mom:  I sure hope so too!  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@nikol:  I tried doing that a couple of times today and it works for a short amount of time.  But once she gets full awakened in it, she gets MAD in the carrier too!  I do need to learn how to nurse in the carrier too. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Glad to hear so many of you have LOs that aren't dependent on the pacis.  I just don't know how I'll make it another month or 2 before she learns to self-soothe...
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<title>PurpleUnicorn on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-682739</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>PurpleUnicorn</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;i was never anti paci but i did wait about 8 weeks because i was taught that in my BF course at the hospital that it was better to wait.  then i was amazed how much how he loved it! I think we became too dependent on it for a while, so now during the day, i am making an effort to not give it so much  unless he really seems to need it. and i am getting DH on board. we still use it at night to put him to sleep and when he wakes during the night. though it falls out a minute or two after he is actually asleep.  not sure when we are going to wean it off either.  still thinking/reading about it. he is almost 5m.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;as for other ways to soothe.....i think you've answered your question!  there is the boob, his hands, your fingers....i don't think there is much else...babies like to suck!! L will put anything and everything in his mouth that fits, i actually find it amusing at times how hard he tries to get things in his mouth.
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<title>filly on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-682642</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>filly</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;my twin girls will be 5 months on April 7th. i was all about the NO PACI bc I too didn't want them dependent on it. Well let me tell you something, the paci has done wonders for my sanity. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;they only get it when they go down for naps and nighttime &#38;amp; they actually aren't dependent on it at all. i do carry them in the diaper bag when we're out and about. the girls prefer their lovey blanket and/or their hands. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;oh and the Soothie Pacifiers were the ones they loved in the beginning but now they only take the Nuk brand.
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<title>nikol on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-682564</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>nikol</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;i caved and gave my lo a paci for times when i really need to use the restroom while he was comfort nursing but i didn't want to wake him, or if i needed a minute to myself so dh could watch him. he took it happily for a couple of months, but now he acts offended if we offer it to him. we still keep it around because he likes to chew on it, and because it's a 'moustachifier' and i can't bring myself to get rid of it. he is 8 months old. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;for the most part though, in terms of getting things done around the house, i would just strap him in the ergobaby and go to town. he was able to nurse to his heart's content, and i was able to take care of all my grownup duties. win/win. now he only comfort nurses on his way to sleep, or if he's uncomfortable. so, it did get easier!
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<title>LuLu Mom on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-682550</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>LuLu Mom</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@shopaholic: I was antisoothie as well until about 3 months and I finally gave in.  WE only do it at naps and bedtime so she definetely isn't addicted, I bet we could take it from her with no problems but she can seth-soothe at night with it and take it in and out now.  She will be broken of it before her 1st birthday for sure, I'm not a fan of a kid who can talk walking with a pacifier.
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<title>T-Mom on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-682546</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>T-Mom</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@shopaholic: if you are open to the paci, my kids liked the MAM pacis only. They make one for the tiny babies, it's called the nano. It's much lighter than a soothie and easier to keep in. Your LO is still really small, so hopefully in the next few weeks things will improve!
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<title>Mrs. Jacks on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-682542</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mrs. Jacks</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Our first daughter wouldn't take a pacifier and we really wanted her to.  I was her human pacifier... and was all she wanted. It was exhausting!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;With our second daughter, she took to the pacifier (thank god) and we just give it to her so she can fall asleep for naps and night time.  She's not too attached to it otherwise.
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<title>hilsy85 on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-682505</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>hilsy85</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@shopaholic:  I would try different types, and just keep trying--what they don't like one day they may love the next. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As for the hand/thumb vs paci debate, I honestly don't think either is that big a deal...the way i think of it, I'll deal with getting rid of the paci when the time comes. Right now, it's great at helping him fall asleep or calm him down, and I'm certainly not going to deny myself a great tool in my parenting toolbox! He's not going to be going to kindergarten with a paci in his mouth :) And if he DOES suck his thumb, then we'll deal with that when the time comes as well. I don't know any adults who suck their thumbs! :) Try not to stress too much, or to think too much about &#34;what if...&#34; in the future. Things will change a million times between now and then!
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<title>shopaholic on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-682465</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>shopaholic</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@boiledpnut:  I totally agree with this.  But I'm at the point where it's really hard to get anything done without having her attached to me.  I enjoy the bonding and don't mind comfort nursing if she could fall and stay asleep, but more often than not she'll wake up for any little thing.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@Beehive:  @artbee:  @wheres_c:  @travelgirl1:  @Mrs. High Heels:  Is it true it's worse to let them suck on their hands and fingers?  K has always wanted to suck her hands since Day 1.  The ped told us better to use a paci than to let her suck her fingers?  IDK what to do anymore.... She hates the swaddle unless she's already asleep.  The white noise also only helps to keep her asleep if she's already asleep.  Shushing doesn't work.  Swaying and rocking works sometimes but not enough to put her to sleep.  Bouncing works but takes a huge toll on my arms and back.  Bouncer and swing also only are good if she's already asleep or almost there and that's only sometimes.&#60;br /&#62;
Right now I can just be a human pacifier and let her suck till she falls asleep but she wakes so easily and then I don't know what to do.  Broke down today and tried to give her a soothie and she wouldn't take it she was so frustrated.  Ahhh. I hope this ability to self soothe happens soon for us!
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<title>Beehive on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-678883</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Beehive</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;We gave our LO a paci from the beginning, and it worked really well for us - we only really gave it when necessary (if he was super fussy, or needed help napping, or was in the carseat), and it would calm him down and keep him calm. Now at 5 months, and probably starting around 4 months or so, he self-soothes with his fingers or primarily his thumb, and when we give him a pacifier he treats it like it's another toy - he'll pull it out, look at it, suck on the handle, pull it out, etc. So it only works now in the sense of being a distraction or a toy! &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We are also very conscious of not wanting our LO to use a pacifier as a toddler, but I understand there are ways to wean off the pacifier without too much trouble if they're still using one at that point (at this rate it doesn't seem like our LO will be).
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<title>bpcmarj on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-678844</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@boiledpnut:  yes, this is my exact thought, too. :)
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<title>boiledpnut on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-to-soothe-newborn-wout-a-pacisoothie#post-678837</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>boiledpnut</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I let DS use me as a pacifier. Nursing is much more than feeding. Non-nutritive sucking is good for both of you.
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<title>Weagle on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Weagle</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;We weren't necessarily anti-paci, but I was wary of it.  I thought she would LOVE it, but as it turns out,  LO only took it for a few weeks.  Then she figured out how to calm herself.  There were many times Over the past10 months that I wished she would take it!  I think if you use it sparingly, it's much easier to break the habit.
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<title>Sammyfab on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 07:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Sammyfab</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;We did the finger trick for the first few weeks because my LO wouldn't take a paci. We actually really wanted him to take a paci because he had such a strong need to suck and he was a fussy baby. He finally started taking a paci at 8-ish weeks and I was ecstatic!! He did become a paci addict for awhile (which I was a little embarrassed about) but around 8.5 months we stopped giving it to him aside from naps. At 9.5 months we stopped giving it to him for naps. Now he has absolutely no attachment to pacis and the weaning involved no crying whatsoever.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So all of that was to say that giving a paci in infancy =/= a toddler walking and talking with a paci in their mouth. I think after a certain age (maybe 12-18 months?) it becomes more of an issue of behaviour/discipline issue than an actual physical need to suck for comfort.
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<title>Beebug on "How To Soothe Newborn W/Out A Paci/Soothie?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 06:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Beebug</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I was (like other above!) anti-paci but DH wanted to try it and I totally saw how it benefited my LO! In the last two weeks we've pretty much cut it from her (she is 5m) and only gets it when she is cranky, or noisy and we need her quiet (church, lol). She doesn't get it for sleep at all any more. I thought it would be harder to use it less as I think we got to relying on it pretty good, and now I am glad we did it how we did.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good luck!!
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