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<title>Hellobee Boards Topic: 18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends</title>
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<title>petitenoisette on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 10:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Also chiming in that my daughter's naps improved dramatically once she switched to the room where all the kids napped at the same time.  Now she regularly sleeps over two hours.  Even so she still takes really long naps on the weekend bc she is clearly tired out from the week.  And also naps about an hour earlier.  I truly don't understand why daycares seem to put kids on one nap before most would developmentally be ready and then also at a later time than makes sense.  It's so frustrating. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;For a long time she had a 6 pm bedtime but I understand that is really hard when you get home later.  Do you get home after your DH does with your LO? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Would it be feasible to get a nanny? I wonder if you could even get a short term nanny to try to get him back on track and then put him back in daycare in August.  I know that would be a lot of work to figure out but just an idea.
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<title>MrsLonghorn on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 09:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I haven't read the entire thread but read your posts about the infant/toddler room and nap situation -- we had a similar situation at the end of our time in the infant room, and naps became infinitely better when he moved to the toddler room where everyone was on the same schedule, and the room was dark with soft music for nap time.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It sounds like he is over tired -- can school move him to the toddler room for naps?  It doesn't matter if he &#34;doesn't seem tired&#34; - they are the adults, and they need to help him take a nap.
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<title>ShootingStar on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 09:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ShootingStar</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm curious what your current nap schedule is?  The fact that he continues to be over tired all weekend tells me something with his schedule is really off.  If his one nap is too early, it might be too much awake time before bed.  Of if it's too late, he could be getting over tired before the nap and then having a crappy nap, continuing the over tired cycle all day.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Or he might still need two naps on the weekend.  LO1 had to switch early to 1 nap at school because they moved his room, but on the weekends he was still doing 2 naps.  We did a 2-3-4 schedule (nap 2 hours after morning wake up, nap 3 hours after wake up, bed 4 hours after wake up).  And eventually he got to where he could push the morning nap later and later.
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<title>gingerbebe on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I think this is something you will just have to power through for a bit unless you really do quit your job.  But I would stick around until he is bumped up to the 2 year old room (realizing that too will have transition issues) and then evaluate in the fall.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Can your husband have a small dry snack and a water in the car for him when he gets picked up and then take him for a drive after school?  Both my kids are hangry at pick up and are much happier with a small snack and ice water.  And a small even 20-30 minute catnap can do wonders for a tired kiddo.  Since it's summer it will stay light out a little later and you can just put him to bed slightly later.  Our youngest does something similar with his morning nap on the weekends - he screams and screams in the car on the way home from church but then suddenly knocks out bc of the motion of the car and gets a cat nap in on the way home.  That's enough to get him through lunch and a little play time before nap.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My kids also need a lot of touch after school.  I try to have dinner ready by the time they get home so Dh and I can just do a snuggle pile for 15-20 minutes.  They aren't hugging us the whole time but they want us near so they can come by for the snug buffet whenever they want.  But the clinginess is worse right after daycare.  So it's worth it to me to reheat precooked food or keep meals really simple right now.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The tantrums and sleep issues are also very much related to speech.  My eldest was delayed and even now whenever he learns new words and phrases and concepts he is way grouchiest at home.  Learning is hard!
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<title>MrsADS on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>MrsADS</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@mrs. lion thanks. I have definitely considered it  :crying:  It's just so hard to know what the right thing to do is. Basically every day I feel terrible sending him, even though his teachers say other than naps he's super happy, plays, etc.
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<title>Mrs. Lion on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mrs. Lion</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  So, this is not the typical answer and I want to start with you are NOT doing anything wrong if you keep him where he is, but my son was having a really really hard time being in such an overstimulating environment all day too, and after 2 years of trying everything we could think of to make it better I decided to leave my job to stay home with him (my last day was this last Friday). Our other options would have been to find a babysitter who could have watched him instead, or an in-home, but I wasn't super happy in my job so I decided it would be easier to just be home for a while. Daycare is amazing for a lot of kids but for kiddos who are more sensitive it is a lot, and it is okay to change course if what you are currently doing isn't working. Sending lots of love &#38;lt;3.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ETA: Feel free to PM me if you want! We have been through the wringer about sensory processing disorder and a whole host of other things...most recently our specialist that we just saw told us that he thinks that most of the struggles he is experiencing are from being chronically overtired. It is a real thing. :(
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<title>MrsADS on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@shantuck hmm interesting. I wonder if they would let him nap in the 2yo room. My only concern is that I think if they put him in there with a bunch of strangers (new teachers), he might not sleep, and I don't think his current room has enough staffing to send one of his &#34;familiar&#34; teachers to that room with him just so he will sleep. Daycare told us no white noise machine.  :bummed: &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@mrswin I think that's part of the problem - he's overtired. He is normally not asleep until 12:30 at school and I think his preferred naptime is a lot earlier (like 11:30, which is lunchtime).
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<title>Shantuck on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Could you talk to your daycare about other outside the box solutions?  When my son was 15 months, they wanted him to move up a room that took one nap and we knew he wasn't quite ready. The daycare offered to bring him to his old room so he could nap there until he was ready. Maybe there is some alternate location he could go to for extra sleep?  Also, my sister brings in a travel white noise machine for her infant's naps at daycare. Maybe doing something like that would help drown out the other noises that typically wake him? Good luck!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ETA: Maybe they would let him nap in the room with the blackout shades prior to August?
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<title>mrswin on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  bummer that the lovey didn't make a difference to the sleep at daycare. What time do they do naps in that room? I wonder if he didn't seem tired yesterday because he was wired from it being past his body's preferred nap time?
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<title>MrsADS on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 07:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>MrsADS</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@sweetiepie thank you, you're so right. Maybe I need to put him to bed even earlier. He's definitely exhausted earlier. It's just hard to get the dinner/bath/bedtime thing done much earlier when I am getting home at 5pm. I totally agree on prioritizing quality time with him vs. quantity. Unfortunately, recently it seems like even the little time I have with him is poor quality because he is cranky and tired. We already keep weekend activities to a minimum but could probably do a better job of that even still. And you're right, it's a short term thing. I just hate it for HIM, you know? Like I hate that he is tired and grumpy all the time. He's never been a good napper which is part of the issue.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@faithfertility thank you! Well, compared to our previous sleep issues, this is nothing. Before we sleep trained around 17 months, he was up for like 4 hours in the middle of the night and I thought I was in hell for the whole first year.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@mrswin yes, we have a lovey but doesn't seem to make a difference.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@pollywog He is usually at daycare 8:30-4:30, sometimes he is picked up earlier like 4:15. There's really no way to make it shorter. My husband does drop offs and pickups because daycare is next to his work. I work a 30-45 minute drive away. His daycare says they've tried to move him to different areas of the room where it's darker, try to lay him down and rub his back, etc. Yesterday when he slept almost  30 minutes, they said on his take home sheet &#34;didn't seem tired&#34;. ??? Which I find hard to believe. My husband mentioned it to them again today.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Part of the issue is that right now he is in a combined 1 year old/infant room. It's a big room that is divided in half - half has the babies (they only take 4), half is the toddlers where he is (only 10 toddlers). But because of that, they have a lamp on on the infant side, so it's not totally dark, sometimes a baby is crying, etc. Thankfully he is moving to the 2 year old room in August. His teacher said in there, they have blackout shades and it is dark and silent. I have a feeling he will sleep much better there.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We have toured literally every daycare in our area in his current one is by far the best... with the exception of his current split classroom thing which I don't really like.
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<title>Pollywog on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm so sorry you're still struggling.  A couple questions :&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;- How long is he in daycare a day?  Do you have any flexibility to work after he goes to bed?  I work 830-4 and 730-830. That extra hour of time makes LO so much more fun to be around&#60;br /&#62;
- What is daycare doing about his lack of napping?  Are they cool with it or actively trying to help him sleep?&#60;br /&#62;
- Have you considered other daycares? Maybe a smaller environment will work better for him
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<title>mrswin on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 19:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  I'm so prey he is still having a a tough time. Does he have a lovey that he sleeps with at home?  Can you send the same to school?
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<title>FaithFertility on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 19:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  poor guy!!!! You are doing great,  I pray it turns around for you!
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<title>SweetiePie on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 19:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  I hear you on the too little time - an earlier bedtime and strict naps on The Weekend sounds sad when you're working and just want to spend time with them (I did it for a little while) BUT I once read that when it comes to time with our kids we should prioritize quality over quantity in relation to sleep. And that really stuck with me. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It sounds like he's already going to bed at 6:30 but seriously my son's bedtime for a long time was 6pm and even 5;30 some nights if the day's nap situation warranted it. It sucks, but an extra 30-60 mins together if he's crying and screaming and miserable isn't good for anyone. So just cut the losses, put him to bed as early as you think he can handle it, and pour a glass of wine. Hopefully he goes down happier and wakes happier and that little bit of time together is much better quality.&#60;br /&#62;
And on weeknds it is tempting to do &#34;fun&#34; stuff and skip/push naps, but try to do little outings instead of big ones or fun stuff at home and stick to a strict nap schedule so that the time he's awake he's happy and there's not a stressed rush home for nap or a screaming kid in public. We were hermits for almost 2 years with my son because he was (and still is) a BEAST when he's tired. It gets frustrating when we want to do things with him but we've learned that he needs his sleep and we're all happier when he's well rested. And it will end some day, possibly sooner than we think. He'll be done napping and the world will be our oyster and it'll feel like such a treat to go do fun things all day with him without stressing about a nap or missing bedtime by 15 mins. And I'm glad he's learning healthy sleep habits now that will hopefully last a long time. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You may be doing a lot of the above already but wanted to let you know you shouldn't feel bad about &#34;short&#34; time with him. You're doing a great job and sometimes doing the best thing for our kid is really really hard  ❤️
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<title>gotkimchi on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 19:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  have you tried napping with him on the weekends? That worked for us to help extend naps. If one of us was sleeping with her she would stay asleep for 2-3 hours. We could often sneak out after 1.5 hours. If she woke around 90 min patting her back helped her go back to sleep and I think it helped her figure out how to connect the sleep cycles so she could then extend her naps by herself too
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 19:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@gotkimchi I think you are right. Makes me sad that he's so tired and sad  :crying:  And I see him so little because he has to go to bed SO early! This past weekend, he seemed exhausted but still only napped 90 minutes both days. Overtired, maybe.
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 18:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  he sounds tired to me :( my lo took two naps until 2 and even now at 3 can get over tired and take super early naps at 10am. So I would push a super early bedtime and extra naps on the weekend by any means - car, stroller, babywearing etc. I'm sorry it's so hard but he's still little and hopefully he'll outgrow this soon
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<title>MrsADS on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 18:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@faithfertility I haven't. I've chalked it up to him just being tired, but I may mention it at his 2yo appointment. He is pretty high sleep needs and is sleeping at least 13 hours a night (sometimes more!). But, I think that may be because his naps are not great at school. Today was only 30 minutes! Usually they are 60-90 mins.
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 18:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:   gosh,  I'm so sorry!  No true advice,  but have you mentioned this to the doctor? Just thinking he might have a sensory issue there,  with noise and such??? IDK just trying to help you!
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 18:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>MrsADS</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Bump and update: now DS is 22 months, overall he is doing well at daycare and is happy there (we hear).. However, he continues to be exhausted and crabby in the evenings and most weekends. He does not nap well at daycare and it's just crying and tantrum after tantrum from when he comes home till bedtime. And most nights, he's so exhausted he is asleep by 6:30pm!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am so sad that basically all my time with him is when he's so crabby and exhausted.  :crying:  Honestly, it's to the point I am thinking about leaving my job to stay home! When did your toddler outgrow this?
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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@pawprints lol yes, he says &#34;Boomba&#34; and just goes crazy for it. It is hysterical.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They said today at school he walked around and said &#34;Mama, Dada&#34; over and over again most of the day  :crying:
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  Awww, no other advice but wanted to mention my DD also has a pretty intense relationship with our roomba. We call him &#34;Harvey&#34; and she always says Hi Harvey! and Bye Harvey! and if he gets stuck under the couch or something and we get home and he's not in his usual spot, she gets really upset and goes looking for him.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@2peasinapod I think you're right about the combo of language/possible teeth/exhaustion from school.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;He has about 30 words but I swear he learns a couple new ones every day. He keeps himself awake at night talking in his crib and I hear him practicing his words, basically. So I think he's about to go through a language burst.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; He has also in the last week gotten WAY worse with the tantrums, it is awful. And I think you're right, it is because his expressive language is behind and he can't express himself. Diaper changes, getting in the car seat (although once he's in and we're pulling away in the car he's fine!), coming in from being outside - total meltdown! He's also more hyper-focused on things he wants and gets really mad if he can't get them right away. We were running our Roomba in his room while we gave him bath and he was just screaming Roomba, roomba! And sobbing because he wanted to follow it around... not get a bath. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;He doesn't have his canines in but I think he might be working on him. That also might be an explanation for the cranky behavior. He was SO CRANKY all weekend. Like I would offer him his water cup, he would say no and push it away. And then he would reach for it, so I handed it to him - just so he could throw it on the floor and yell NO! Repeat with all objects. Okay then. LOL.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  I just wanted to chime in and add this. I know it's OT but for the whole 2-1 nap thing - what we did when it seemed like he needed 2 naps but the timing of when to fit in two was crappy, we woke him a little early from the AM nap so that there was still time for a 2nd nap and a reasonable bedtime.&#60;br /&#62;
So 9-10/10:30 for example. Wake really gently. Low light and rubbing back/chest and whispering.&#60;br /&#62;
That way we could still fit in a 2nd nap at a reasonable time.&#60;br /&#62;
Sometimes he was really cranky being woken up but it didn't last. But mostly he was fine.&#60;br /&#62;
(Just another idea for weekends. If he's so cranky that you can't go anywhere with him anyway you might as well try to do 2 naps with AM being shortened and maybe less cranky so the time spent at home is enjoyable).
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<title>2PeasinaPod on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  Definitely try to let go of the guilt. It's so hard to do, but we're all doing our best, and I'm not sure that your husband is feeling the same amount of guilt you are!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I think it's a combination of the transition as well as frustration with receptive vs. expressive language. This is the age where they start to really understand things. I can tell my 17 month old what we're doing or to go get something, and he knows exactly what I'm talking about and does it (receptive language). Where we run into issues is expressive language. He's trying to tell me what he wants to do or what he would like to have, and I can't understand him or I tell him, &#34;no.&#34; He doesn't know how to express his frustrations, so he tantrums. It's such typical behavior at this age until they can start to really express what they want, it's going to be a rough ride. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Does he have a lot of words right now? I also find that this starts to occur just before he goes through a giant language burst. It's almost as if his brain is revolting until he can get those words out, and then suddenly, he's fine!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The other thing I was thinking about was his canines. Are they in yet? If not, both of my boys were MONSTERS when they came in. My 17 month old still doesn't have them, but they're coming. He's like Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde. One second he's the sweetest little boy, and the next minute, he's FREAKING out at his brother trying to give him a kiss or even being too close to his space. A lot of it is that and control.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hang in there...I know this is so hard!
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@joyfulkiwi @2littlepumpkins thank you both. Sounds like this is a pretty common issue. I think this is a tough age because of the 2-1 nap transition. We've been on 1 nap for a while but I definitely see signs that he could use two! It's exactly what you said - like after 3 hours of awake time he is just falling apart. At home if we try to do 2 naps (or plan on it), he will take a really long first nap (like 9-11:30) and then won't take a 2nd, or will want to take a 2nd nap at like 4pm, which isn't ideal. So we just do one earlyish nap on the weekends. I wish he could do 2 naps at daycare, but he can't.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Great idea about talking to him more. We usually try to talk about what's going to happen at school and the fun he will have (&#34;We're going to school today! We're going to see Ms. S, and Ms. M, and your friends xyz, and you're going to climb on the climber, and read books, and play with the farm and the kitchen and the trucks...&#34;) and always talk about when we'll pick him up (after you have lunch and nap, daddy will pick you up, then when you get home, I will be there), and say &#34;Mama and daddy always come back&#34; about a hundred times. So I'll definitely keep working on that.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am trying to let go of the guilt - I think I feel guilty that daycare is so hard on him (he's so exhausted and falling apart), and he's so little it would really be better for him to be at home and he can't be at home because I'm working.  :crying:
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<title>2littlepumpkins on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2017 23:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@MrsADS:  I don't really have advice but my 17 month old needs two naps or at least one really good one and on days where he doesn't get enough night or day sleep he can spiral and get reeeeaaally cranky with short awake times sometimes. Then he goes through periods of one nap days where he is fine. We're also dealing with teething here. It does sound like adjusting and maybe being tired from all the action. No need to be guilty! You're not doing anything wrong! Hope this phase passes soon.
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<title>JoyfulKiwi on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2017 21:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Try your best to let go of the guilt. You haven't done anything wrong! I think it does sound like a response to the new environment (especially since they say he's reserved, when that's not is typical personality).&#60;br /&#62;
At 18 months, my son wasn't ready for the one nap schedule of daycare. His bedtime was 6:30 on weeknights because he was exhausted. We would get home, settle down/cuddle for a bit, one of us would give him dinner of last nights food while the other cooked, do bedtime routine at 6, he'd be asleep by 6:30, and then we'd eat a late dinner together. It didn't give us much time with him, but the time we did have was happier. On the weekends we had him take two naps and that made him happier so we could do things. I don't know if doing 2 naps would be a possibility? (Our son woke by 5:30/6:00am because of the early bedtime, so he'd nap at 9ish and 1ish)&#60;br /&#62;
Also, since his language is exploding, I'd recommend talking with him about school when he's calm. Talk about things/people you know there in a positive way, talk about how you think about him when he's at school, tell stories about when you started going somewhere new and how you felt. He'll be able to understand all that and maybe gain some words to use, too.
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<title>MrsADS on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@muffinsmuffins thanks - glad to know it's normal and gets better!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@pawprints thanks. I sort of mentioned it to his school, but I think there's only so much they can do. We've sort of come to terms we're just going to have to stay home for a while  :sad: &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks all. We're really trying to do an earlier bedtime, but it's just hard not getting home until 5pm and then getting him in bed by 6:30.  It just makes me sad he's so miserable, tired, and unhappy so much. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Also - his language development is really taking off and often he rolls around in his crib for a LONG time just chatting to his stuffed animals and practicing his words. I think that might be limiting his sleep a bit too.
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<title>PawPrints on "18 mo is a mess after daycare and on weekends"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2017 22:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;This sounds so difficult. I'm sorry. I do think he's still adjusting and will improve, but in the meantime I would do anything you can to help him get more sleep (earlier bedtime?) and have a routine that is as predictable, stable, and calm as humanly possible. Talk to daycare about your concerns and see if there's anything at all they can do to make his day more predictable for him, and maybe make an effort to help him spend some time in less stimulating activities (try to keep other kids from bothering him while he plays quietly alone?) Sounds like he is exhausted and tense and needs to feel anchored as much as possible. And yeah unfortunately I think it's a good thing for you guys to stay home on weekends for a while, for that reason. :( Maybe make it up to yourselves with some date nights, if you have a babysitter option?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;[eta] I think it would be reasonable to put him to bed every night by like 6:15.
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