https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Mon, 27 Apr 2026 04:44:57 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot/page/2#post-2313161 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 22:28:32 +0000 ScarletBegonia 2313161@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: I'm so sorry your son has had a reaction to his shots. If he is allergic or reactive to a vaccine component or adjunct then I'm sure your doctor will advise you to stop vaccinating or to vaccinate on an adjusted schedule, and as well they should!! No one should have to suffer for good immunity! It just becomes all the more important for the large, large majority of the population that can be safely vaccinated to do so - to keep little ones who can't be vaccinted (including babies under 6-8 weeks old) safe. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot/page/2#post-2313137 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 21:33:11 +0000 Astro Bee 2313137@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JH524: What issues has your son experienced following his vaccinations? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot/page/2#post-2313129 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 21:26:46 +0000 jh524 2313129@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@kjn: well said ;) and like I said earlier, I'm not anti vaccine even though I sound like it but I deeply question vaccine safety. It's seems like I'm gotten overly sensitive to vaccine reactions because of my sons reactions every time we vaccinated. It feels like we gamble when we vaccinate.... Will we have a reaction this time or not. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot/page/2#post-2313125 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 21:19:07 +0000 kjn 2313125@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: A couple of things. Firstly, no... Vaccines don't tax an already busy immune system. The immune system is busy all the time - every time you brush your teeth, eat something. Literally every second of every day your immune system is busy. Your immune system does not recognize "vaccines" per se. It recognizes antigens. So when you vaccinate, your body says "There's another antigen. I'll go ahead and make antibodies." It doesn't have to "work hard". If making antibodies was taxing to the immune system we would be in trouble. So no - vaccines don't make the immune system work hard thereby somehow increasing the severity of an unrelated viral illness.</p> <p>Many people have correctly refuted some of your other points but what I haven't seen refuted yet is the mercury question. The multi-dose flu vaccine contains thimerosal which is broken down to ethyl-mercury. This is different from methyl-mercury which is what we worry about in our food and environment. At toxic levels methyl-mercury can cause damage to the brain and CNS. Ethyl-mercury is metabolized more quickly by the body and has never been shown to build up or cause any problems in the CNS.</p> <p>Listen to @scarletbegonia. She clearly has an understanding of immunology. The "research" that you're citing is the same anti-vaccine rhetoric that has been disproven again and again.</p> <p>Speaking of which, this article made me laugh today: <a href="http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/anti-vaxxers-fund-study-finds-zero-link-between-vaccinations-and-autism" rel="nofollow">http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/anti-vaxxers-fund-study-finds-zero-link-between-vaccinations-and-autism</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2313102 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 20:57:21 +0000 jh524 2313102@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@ScarletBegonia: sure I agree with that. But dont you think that if a person is already Ill and then not naturally exposed to multiple viruses but exposed via vaccine injection that the immune response could possibly tax the already busy immune system? Therefore causing an increase in the severity of the illness or an increase in your body's reaction to fight off that invader?<br /> I understand the basics of biology, as well as the importance of credible sources and data. I learned to research while getting my Masters Degree and I always have more to learn. I don't see why more people don't question vaccine safety. What they choose to do with the info is up to them. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2313033 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 19:37:01 +0000 rosegold 2313033@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs.KMM: thank you for this. i needed to read that! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2313016 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 19:19:49 +0000 jh524 2313016@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Truth Bombs: so what?! Shoot me for being concerned for other people's children. Where did I write I am certain it's a reaction. I said it's possible there is a relation. But it doesn't matter anyways, I see your point and I'm not interested in going back and forth with you. Thanks though </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2313011 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 19:15:30 +0000 ScarletBegonia 2313011@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: Okay, but if our immune system was taxed by fighting off infections then every time we were sick we would be more susceptible to different infections, which doesn't happen. </p> <p>If you don't agree with me about a vaccine not being able to exacerbate an existing illness then that's fine, but the science behind my statement is clear, unambiguous and can be found in any first year university biology textbook, as well as backed up by any number of peer reviewed studies. I'm sure we all have friends and family that have gotten sicker after having a vaccine, and it is horrible and sad when that happens, but correlation doesn't equal causation and people need to bear that in mind when deciding whether to vaccinate their children or not. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2313008 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 19:11:23 +0000 Truth Bombs 2313008@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: in this thread <a href="http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/unhelpful-nurse-about-vaccine-reaction#post-2274166" rel="nofollow">http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/unhelpful-nurse-about-vaccine-reaction#post-2274166</a> you were certain a child was suffering a seizure from a vaccine. Turns out she had a pinky toe injury. You now were certain that a child had a 103 degree fever from a vaccine. Turns out she had an ear infection. Don't you think that assuming a vaccine is ALWAYS the cause of adverse symptoms that occur close to the time the vaccine was administered is just as irresponsible as never assuming it was? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312989 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:56:08 +0000 mrsbubbletea 2312989@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>They are absorbed eventually into the blood but they aren't injected into bloodstream! Just being factual. I understand what you are saying though. @jh524: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312984 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:52:46 +0000 jh524 2312984@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@junebugsmama: are we really gonna start going there. I guess you didnt understand want I meant. But Thanks for clarifying my typo. Much appreciated And vaccines do enter your blood. That's how your body begins to make white blood cells because it's seen as a intruder and you make antibodies to it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312975 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:38:32 +0000 mrsbubbletea 2312975@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: Vaccines are not injected into the blood stream. And the word you mean to say is exacerbated not exasperated. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312954 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:55:08 +0000 jh524 2312954@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs.KMM: Interesting! Thanks<br /> @ScarletBegonia: I'll respond, 1. no that's not what I mean. I just mean it may tax it a bit more because your body is fighting off the viruses from the vaccine. And I do understand how immunity works. 2. I don't agree with you on this. I do think a illness can very well be exasperated by a vaccine. Not impossible in my opinion. Thank you! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312952 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:48:36 +0000 Mrs.KMM 2312952@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: Nope – formaldehyde is formaldehyde. It all has the same chemical structure. And like I said, your body is naturally making formaldehyde every single day. If those minute amounts of formaldehyde in vaccines were going to cause an issue in your body, you would be having major issues every single day of your life. </p> <p>@ScarletBegonia: Thank you! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312941 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:16:35 +0000 ScarletBegonia 2312941@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: So just taking issues with two points you've made -<br /> 1. Vaccines lower your immune system: first of all, I'm no sure what "lowering" an immune system means, but if you mean that vaccination causes immune deficiency in the short or long term that is patently untrue - vaccines stimulate the immune system to clone antibody-producing white blood cells (B lymphocytes) specific to the disease or diseases being vaccinated against. The production of these new cells increases immunity against those diseases, but doesn't impair immunity against any other diseases. This component of the immune system is disease specific (unlike say, inflammation which occurs in response to any foreign microorganism entering the body), therefore increasing immunity against one disease doesn't decrease immunity against against any other.</p> <p>And as a follow up to that<br /> 2. The vaccine exacerbated an existing illness (in this case an ear infection): Also impossible. Doctors tend not to vaccinate when a child already has an existing illness (although some will), but it is because a reaction to the vaccine can be masked by the existing illness, NOT because the vaccine can somehow make the existing illness worse. Again, the immune system at this level is disease specific, so one cannot affect the other. </p> <p>You are imploring us to do our research, read the inserts, don't trust the CDC summary, inform ourselves - but some basic understanding of how human immunity works goes a long way towards dispelling myths about vaccines and their side effects. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312885 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 16:11:32 +0000 jh524 2312885@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs.KMM: of course! I'm always Researching and trying to inform myself as should everyone. But don't you think being exposed to it in our daily living is different than injecting it into your bloodstream? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312872 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 16:02:22 +0000 Mrs.KMM 2312872@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: If you want to talk about people being informed, I would recommend doing some research and being informed yourself. </p> <p>Yes - some vaccines contain formaldehyde. So does your carpet, your couch, the air you breathe, and the food and drinks you consume. Formaldehyde is also naturally produced by the body and is a very important part of our metabolism.</p> <p> Even at the appointment where your child would receive the most formaldehyde-containing vaccines at once (6 months), if you combined the formaldehyde included in all of those vaccines it would be way, way less then the amount of formaldehyde your body naturally produces itself every single day.</p> <p>Knowledge is power. Just because something has a scary sounding name doesn't mean that is actually bad. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312840 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 15:34:54 +0000 jh524 2312840@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@BandDmommy: I'm sorry!! That wasn't directed toward you at all!<br /> I responded to you at the top of the page. I always have a certain gal attack me for thinking differently than her in regards to vaccines. I certainly didn't mean to bother you with the statement that followed!! Sorry </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312834 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 15:29:59 +0000 BandDmommy 2312834@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: not sure why you are responding so adversarial to me. I was just asking what you found that was different than what CDC said. I do use my brain and understand the risks of vaccinating and also the risk of NOT vaccinating. Thanks though. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312802 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:48:40 +0000 jh524 2312802@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsSCB: maybe. Or the vaccine exasperated the infection or illness which caused a spike in her fever. There's no true data on that because they won't use a trial testing sick individuals and they're reaction to the flu vaccine. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312798 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:39:31 +0000 MrsSCB 2312798@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: Yes, I agree 103.2 is not low-grade, therefore it seemed unlikely to be a reaction to the vaccine, because the CDC says "low-grade fevers" are an (albeit uncommon) adverse reaction. A higher fever, like 103.2, suggests a different cause, which it ultimately was given that it's an ear infection. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312790 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:30:46 +0000 jh524 2312790@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsSCB: a fever of 103.2 is not a low grade fever.<br /> @BandDmommy: <a href="http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM305089.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM305089.pdf</a><br /> (Important parts to read: all 26 pages!! Not just one single hand out they give us.</p> <p>•Clinical Studies ( too bad they are using data from 15 years ago.) interesting....<br /> •Contraindication &amp; Adverse Reaction pg 4-6 of 26<br /> •Post-marketing experience Pg 10 &amp; specific populations (pregnant &amp; nursing mothers) Pg 11<br /> READ the....<br /> •**Description PG 12- 13 **<br /> The Fluzone shot contains Formaldehyde....The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services openly admits that formaldehyde causes cancer.<br /> It also contains Mercury (unless you request the single dose syringe!! Which is what you should do along with the vaccine insert!!</p> <p>What about the Gelatin, which causes allergic reactions or the embryonic chicken eggs it's made in.<br /> So with all these chemicals in the flu shot, heck yes you should think your sudden headache, spiked fever or feeling sick is a reaction! Why wouldn't you? Youre putting viruses and chemicals into your body that haven't been properly studied. Do some research. Look into it to be informed so you can make a choice that's right for you and your family.<br /> I may sound anti vaccine, but I'm not. I'm a researcher and I believe Knowledge is power. I don't believe doctors know every single thing but I do think most will push vaccines because it's often about money.<br /> Ok I am done here. </p> <p>@kjn: common sense isn't so common is it. Your example is comical though. </p> <p>@Truth Bombs: yes I do absolutely do think everyone should use their brain and consider any reaction after getting a vaccine could possibly be related ! If you don't, well then I'm sure you'll call your doctor so they can assure you it's not a adverse reaction and you can quickly agree and feel better about yourself. Its ridiculous people don't think for themselves. </p> <p>Oh and you'd think it would be valuable to test to see if the flu shot they push every year could possibly be carcinogenic or have mutagenic potential or for possible impairment of fertility, but It has never been tested.</p> <p>@matador84: your daughters symptoms could possibly have a relation to the flu shot. The vaccine lowers your immune system so this is why giving a vaccine while sick isn't recommended. I hope she gets better quick!! </p> [attach=2785/15/nvv7ja.600x338.image.jpg] [attach=2785/15/nvv7jb.600x338.image.jpg] https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312687 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 12:56:43 +0000 catomd00 2312687@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@kjn: lol, yeah! Next time get turkey! :silly: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312685 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 12:46:20 +0000 Truth Bombs 2312685@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: "of course it's a reaction". Obviously not since the kid has an ear infection. So glad I take my medical advice from actual doctors and not anti vaccine rhetoric that insists anything negative that occurs following a vaccine is obviously caused by the vaccine. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312641 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 11:50:41 +0000 kjn 2312641@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: what makes you say that it is "of course" a vaccine reaction? Because it happened after getting the vaccine? If I ate a ham sandwich then walked outside and got hit by a bus did the ham sandwich cause me to get hit by a bus? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312630 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 11:39:04 +0000 Mamaof2 2312630@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@matador84: poor girl! Hope she is feeling better soon! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312626 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 11:36:37 +0000 blackbird 2312626@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>moot point since the kid has an ear infection. </p> <p>Hope she feels better soon! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312611 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 11:23:57 +0000 BandDmommy 2312611@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: just curious, what does your vaccine insert say relating to the flu shot? Is it different than what the CDC says? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312610 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 11:22:14 +0000 BandDmommy 2312610@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@matador84: poor thing, I hope she feels better! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/adverse-reaction-to-flu-shot#post-2312606 Wed, 07 Oct 2015 11:21:20 +0000 MrsSCB 2312606@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jh524: The CDC does state that a low-grade fever is a possible side effect, and that it is rare. So do you mean the CDC is incorrect? <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/flushot.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/flushot.htm</a></p> <p>@matador84: I agree with others that it's most likely your DD was already getting sick when she got the shot. I hope she feels better quickly! </p>