https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sun, 12 Apr 2026 07:52:39 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779962 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:43:56 +0000 youboots 2779962@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This whole thing is bizarre. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779927 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:49:20 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 2779927@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@gotkimchi: I thought that too at first that pregnancy would mean she was treated better and that was a survival method. Seems not. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779914 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:32:01 +0000 Madison43 2779914@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@josina: that statement is rage worthy. Bringing 4 children into the world and raise them in what he has described as a hole so you can “make the best” of your time as a hostage is insane. There are a lot of missing pieces here.... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779909 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:06 +0000 yoursilverlining 2779909@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@josina: This case is so weird. Nothing adds up and that statement from the father above is straight up crazypants. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779904 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:02:37 +0000 josina 2779904@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Thank goodness they are free now, and I hope the children won't remember any of it. I'd love to hear the wife's side of the story someday. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779896 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:54:31 +0000 Boopers 2779896@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@josina: I’m sorry, but what?!? I feel for those kids. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779894 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:51:11 +0000 gotkimchi 2779894@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@josina: ok that seems unadvisable. There are definitely unanswered questions </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779892 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:44:11 +0000 josina 2779892@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>"Former hostage Joshua Boyle says he and his wife decided to have children in captivity because they always planned to have a big family and decided, "Hey, let's make the best of this and at least go home with a larger start on our dream family.""</p> <p><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/caitlan-coleman-joshua-boyle-hostage-kids-captivity/" rel="nofollow">https://www.cbsnews.com/news/caitlan-coleman-joshua-boyle-hostage-kids-captivity/</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779888 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 11:32:32 +0000 catomd00 2779888@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@josina: I hardly think victim blaming is productive. You have zero insight into their experiences and what happened while they were being held. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779861 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 10:11:10 +0000 gotkimchi 2779861@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Adira: I thought that too. Or maybe being pregnant was a deterrent to rapists. I'd love to know more about the story because some stuff doesn't add up but I don't think we should judge them too harshly or blame the victims. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779858 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 10:01:28 +0000 Adira 2779858@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@josina: With regards to having more children - they may not have had any access to any sort of birth control, so preventing pregnancies may not have really been within their control. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779837 Mon, 16 Oct 2017 09:05:19 +0000 josina 2779837@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: Wow, I just read that. So sad, but it makes me so ANGRY that they risked that situation to begin with. And brought FOUR children into that dangerous environment. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779616 Sat, 14 Oct 2017 08:50:45 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 2779616@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Wow, the husband told reporters their captors raped his wife and killed their infant daughter. Honestly, I was not expecting that. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779457 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:30:26 +0000 psw27 2779457@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>There are definitely a lot of unknown red flags to this story that I'd be curious to know more about. I find it strange that they were knowingly traveling around a "dangerous area" (from one article I read) of Afghanistan while she was pregnant. I also wouldn't have 2 more kids while in captivity with no prenatal care. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779444 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:46:53 +0000 MrsADS 2779444@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@josina I agree, I think the part of the story that I don't quite understand is why they were roaming around in an unsafe part of Afghanistan when she was 7 months pregnant?!?! That sounds like more than poor judgment. I don't know. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779437 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:32:57 +0000 josina 2779437@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@erinbaderin: Fair statement, I edited my first post to remove that since I haven't actually read any further on who the BIL was.<br /> Apparently the US FBI concluded that the kidnapping was a horrible coincidence and had nothing to do with Boyle's first marriage. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779436 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:25:18 +0000 josina 2779436@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I can understand his interest in the area, especially since he was interested in terrorism / counter-terrorism, what better place to learn I guess.<br /> I really struggle with the idea that they went there knowing she was pregnant; And (IF) they willingly had more children while being held captive, I can't even.<br /> ETA: I know thats a big IF, and probably not even fair to say at this point. I'm definitely interested to learn more. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779432 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:12:33 +0000 erinbaderin 2779432@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@josina: Not to threadjack, but calling Omar Khadr a "known terrorist" greatly simplifies a complicated situation. He was a child soldier. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779427 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:52:49 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 2779427@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I didn’t read into that @josina: at all. Boyle’s former BIL was 15 yrs old when he committed a terrorist act and was sent to Gitmo. Gitmo! Damn right I’d be a little paranoid after being exposed to fear mongering terrorists for five years straight and having that family connection.</p> <p>However, knowing that Boyle was familiar with their culture through his first marriage makes more sense to me why they even went to Afghanistan in the first place. Some people like to travel even to dangerous places. </p> <p>Serial podcast on Bergdoff, the soldier that abandoned his post, featured a journalist who was held by the Haqqanis. Prior to an exscape attempt he said he was treated very well and had a lot of freedom to move around the home/property he was confined to. This family may have been treated the same way, which is why they could have easily or even wanted to expand their family. All speculation, but I would love to know more. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779422 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:28:41 +0000 josina 2779422@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Foodnerd81: Boyle's first wife, Zaynab Khadr, was the sister of Gitmo detainee, Omar Khadr. She had ties to Osama Bin Laden.<br /> I feel like the wife/children are the real victims here, and there is more to Boyle's involvement. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779416 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:13:52 +0000 Foodnerd81 2779416@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Really really strange story. I missed the part that she was the sister of a known terrorist? But yeah. This is very bizarre. I’m glad they are home safe and while I’m curious to know more, I hope they can have some privacy. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779414 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:02:46 +0000 josina 2779414@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>On one hand I'm grateful to see this family freed, especially the children. On the other its just so odd - the husband was married to the sister of a Gitmo detainee, they willingly traveled to Afghanistan, while she was pregnant, and then while in captive, had two more children? I understand we don't know all of the details yet, or if the children are his, but ?? And then he refuses to get on an American plane home... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/american-woman-family-freed-after-5-years-as-taliban-hostages#post-2779412 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:01:52 +0000 josina 2779412@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/10/12/inside-american-caitlan-colemans-five-year-ordeal-as-a-taliban-prisoner/?utm_term=.c4f14ffa5ff7" rel="nofollow">https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/10/12/inside-american-caitlan-colemans-five-year-ordeal-as-a-taliban-prisoner/?utm_term=.c4f14ffa5ff7</a></p> <p>What are your thoughts on this? </p>