https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Mon, 18 May 2026 21:54:02 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1274982 Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:00:10 +0000 daniellemybelle 1274982@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@LemonLong: Thanks for the info! That's interesting about the spacing of the last two feedings. The Baby Whisperer recommends the opposite - cluster feeding to tank up. Since we are supplementing, I usually give her a bigger bottle before bed to try to hold her over. Otherwise, we do all of that, though we use a Sleep Sheep for white noise which turns off, so I am thinking of leaving white noise on all night and seeing if that helps. Did you read the book, do the online lessons, or both? What do they recommend for getting LO to sleep? It's not the wake-ups that are the problem, as much as getting her to go down without a fight. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1274932 Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:30:50 +0000 LemonLong 1274932@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@daniellemybelle: keep 3 hours between the last 2 feedings to make sure baby is hungry at the last feeding so it carries them through the night, swaddle for babies under 3 months, white noise, strict bedtime routine, if you feed in the middle of night keep it boring, and they advocate CIO in 5-10 minute intervals to start with. That's the basics. They have sample schedules in the book that I found helpful too. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272791 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:47:49 +0000 Weagle 1272791@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@daniellemybelle: Mine was the same way. "Le pause" meant "I'm about to show you just how strong my lungs are." She wasn't a fussy baby, but she knew when she wanted to be held and fought sleep like a champ. Amazingly, at 11 months, one day she reached for the crib during her nap routine, put herself to sleep, and has pretty much been a rock star sleeper ever since. That long winded response was just to say, everything is a phase :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272329 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:18:46 +0000 daniellemybelle 1272329@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I haven't read these books but I have practiced "the pause" in attempts to get my LO to self-soothe a little. She never really settles back down so I'm not sure how effective it is. Some babies are just higher needs than others, I guess.</p> <p>@LemonLong: I was thinking of trying MOC. LO fights sleep and ends up overtired. Could you give me a brief synopsis of how it works? I know they are big into white noise and swaddling. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272300 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:59:11 +0000 ShootingStar 1272300@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@delight: It's basically just waiting a couple minutes after baby starts crying. The whole French philosophy of parenting revolves around teaching patience, and one of the ways they do this is by not jumping up to grab the baby as soon as they make one squawk. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272260 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:42:37 +0000 delight 1272260@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>For those who haven't heard of these books, can someone briefly explain "le pause?" I'm very curious! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272248 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:33:55 +0000 LemonLong 1272248@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We loved Bringing Up Bebe. We implemented the pause right away, and used the Moms on Call methodology for night time sleep which is similar to what was described in the book and our LO slept through the night 8+ hours by 8 weeks. She is 13 months old now and has never had a regression. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272212 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:57:09 +0000 mrsjazz 1272212@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I've read some of the book since Dr. Cohen is the founder of our pediatric practice (not our doctor). Some of the book is accessible via our practice website and sometimes I browse when sitting in the waiting room. I remember thinking, "If our doctor suggests putting LO in her room at 7 p.m. and coming back at 7 a.m. I will curse her out" but luckily she didn't. :wink: That's not our cup of tea. We still co-sleep at almost 20 months so obviously we don't adhere to his sleep training ideas and our pediatrician doesn't push us on this. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272206 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:54:07 +0000 blackbird 1272206@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I also read Bringing Up Bebe and thought it was fascinating. I did implement a fair amount of the ideas from the beginning (yes, "le pause") and it was amazingly successful in more ways than one. I also thought that the author's portrayal of how french women seem to maintain more identities than Mom resonated with me. The sections on food were really interesting. I ended up reading two more books on french eating! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272182 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:30:01 +0000 Beehive 1272182@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I love love love Bringing Up Bebe, especially the parts about manners and food. I think @red_seattle: summarizes very well the sleep "philosophy" in that book ("le pause"), which we successfully practice. </p> <p>Dr. Cohen's rather strict sleep training ideas aren't for everyone (luckily we didn't have to cross that bridge with this LO). I know a lot of people who have him as a pediatrician, and some swear by his methods while others will have nothing to do with them. He's certainly a polarizing figure, but his ideas on sleep work for some families. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272173 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:18:12 +0000 SugarplumsMom 1272173@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Ditto @red_seattle: </p> <p>I really enjoyed Bringing Up Bebe, but haven't read the Cohen book. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272162 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:56 +0000 artsyfartsy 1272162@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I read Bringing Up Bebe and I also have the Bebe Day by Day book. I loved it. A lot resonated with me...mostly the laid back approach and "le pause". Also the manners thing...saying hello and learning not to interrupt. I don't know about the 4 month old sleep thing though. I plan to use the pause and go with the flow. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272115 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:39:42 +0000 kpc324 1272115@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Closing the door from 7-7 at four months doesnt sit well at all with me either. Dr. Cohen was the pediatrician mentioned in Bebe, and he wrote the New Basics. He does say in his book that if you do a more laissez faire approach ("the pause" from Bebe) from the beginning, you won't have to resort to anything harsh later on. We are pretty good about letting little miss "fuss it out" for a bit now so she can learn to self sooth...I'm hoping that leads to more independence in the coming months. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272084 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:25:53 +0000 Silva 1272084@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think that no two babies are alike, and what works for one might not work for another.<br /> 7a to 7p at 4 months sounds kind of extreme to me, but I'm sure there are babies who have done it.</p> <p>Eta: I'm not against sleep training in general, but I think it's important to be absolutely sure the baby isn't waking out of hunger and at 4 months I think a lot of babies still need to eat during the night. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272072 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:21:22 +0000 red_seattle 1272072@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I haven't read Dr. Cohen's book, but I did read Bringing up Bebe. A lot resonated with me, too. But with sleeping through the night-- from what I understand, the author was saying there are 2 parts to why French kids sleep through the night earlier than American kids, neither of which involves crying it out or leaving your child on their own no matter what for 12 hours. First, is that by diligently practicing "le pause" from the beginning, you start to teach self-soothing. So by 4 months, the child will be able to handle a little frustration and self-soothing because they've been learning patience from the get-go. They also are on a strict schedule early on. You know that the baby is getting enough to eat during the day and that their stomach knows when to expect to eat. (This is possible in part because formula feeding is so common in France.) It's not about CIO-- in Bringing up Bebe, she was pretty clear that the French method of teaching children to sleep left no room for the idea of leaving a child to cry for hours at a time, and that French mothers did not find that to be acceptable. But always letting your child fuss and cry for a 1-5 minutes before you picked them up-- that was expected for all mothers.</p> <p>I don't know about Dr. Cohen's book, but that doesn't sound at all like Bringing up Bebe to me. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272071 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:21:07 +0000 littlebug 1272071@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I read Bringing Up Bebe and thought it was amazing. I don't necessarily plan to incorporate everything in the book into our parenting, but certainly a lot of it resonated with me. We are also very laissez-faire with D, and at 10.5 months he is a (mostly) laid-back, independent, happy little guy. Could that be our parenting? Maybe. Could it just be his personality? Maybe. I think it's a little bit of both. </p> <p>It's been a while since I read it, but I don't remember that Bringing Up Bebe recommended anything in particular for sleep. I think I would have remembered that, especially since that (leaving a 4-month-old baby in the room from 7p-7a) seems pretty extreme to me. </p> <p>Mostly what struck me with BUB is fostering independence and respect in children. Teaching children to be patient while you're on the phone, teaching them to wait for designated snack or meal times, emphasizing the importance of greeting people with "hello" and "goodbye," that kind of stuff. I thought a lot of it was brilliant. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272052 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:11:10 +0000 mediagirl 1272052@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I've read snippets from the new basics book and I've received some good tips from their online site. I would never in a million years do the "extinction" method of sleep training, though. It wasn't for my husband, me or our kiddo. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272046 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:09:29 +0000 NovBaby1112 1272046@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@kpc324: I have not read the books, but I know my LO was not ready to night wean at 4 months and sleep 12 hours straight, and I wouldn't feel comfortable putting her down at night and not getting her until the morning. I think it is awesome and lucky when babies do it on their own at an early age, but it is not something I would push at 4 months old. I really think many babies still need a night feeding until 9ish months. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272041 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:06:52 +0000 looch 1272041@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't believe you can use age as the measure alone to determine if your baby will sleep through the night, so if that's truly what they are writing, I wouldn't put a lot of stock in it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272037 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:05:31 +0000 mamimami 1272037@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Haven't read them but I remember finding the Bebe author and the hoopla surrounding her extremely annoying and somewhat misguided. And I personally would never be able to just dump a four month old in a room for 12 hours and hope for the best. But, that's just my opinion and my style! haven't read the books. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bringing-up-bebethe-new-basics#post-1272019 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:54:14 +0000 kpc324 1272019@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Has anyone read these books? Dr. Cohen and his book The New Basics was mentioned in Bringing up Bebe and they've both made a lot of sense to me. I like their more laid back approach to pareting. Baby girl is 11 weeks old and we've done the laissez faire thing since early on and things seem to be going well with a good 6 hour stretch to start out the night and 2-3 wake-ups to nurse.</p> <p>Dr. Cohen says in his book at 4 months you can just put the baby in their room at 7pm and go back at 7am and within 2-3 nights you will have a baby who can sleep through the night. This sounded awesome to pregnant me when I read the book, but I don't know how I feel about it now... Has anyone read either of of these books? Any thoughts? </p>