https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Mon, 13 Apr 2026 11:43:23 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2083596 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:12:31 +0000 BabyTsMom 2083596@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@ScarletBegonia: well said. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2082865 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:46:56 +0000 Dandelion 2082865@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We start sleep training tonight. I'm tired of motn crying. M is 10 months. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2082858 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:55:07 +0000 ScarletBegonia 2082858@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrsrugbee: I think the fact that you say she "went back to normal" after a leap ended speaks volumes - if your normal was manageable, then great and no need to sleep train by CIO. If your normal involves endless nights of repeated wakings and an inability to soothe your child back to sleep, then I personally think its cruel to let a child get 7-8 hours of broken sleep a night for weeks on end rather than have a couple of nights of elevated stress hormone levels (which by the way, can be caused by any number of things, including strange surroundings, new people, and sleeplessness of all things!!) which could result in a full night's sleep and an ability to self soothe. </p> <p>To the OP - for us CIO was magical. It was life changing for us and for our son. There have been no ill effects and it was definitely the right decision for us! Night wakings went from 4-5 a night to 1 just to eat and go straight back to sleep, to none at 6.5 months. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2082835 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 02:55:47 +0000 gracecat 2082835@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yes it totally worked for us! We did a bottle around midnight or 1 am and dd slept until 7 or 8 am. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2082019 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:31:05 +0000 Mae 2082019@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yes. Once she was sleep trained for bedtime she immediately (same night we started sleep training) stopped requiring to be rocked at night. Before sleep training I would have to rock her to sleep then at the end of EVERY single sleep cycle (so every 30-90 min all night long) I'd have to rock her to sleep then try to set her down without her waking up, only to have her wake up again an hour or so later and have to do it again. And thats if I could even set her down. The first night we did sleep training and she fell asleep on her own at night (we did do checks and they worked for us) she still woke a few times overnight but I popped her paci in and she went right back to sleep. </p> <p>Since we sleep trained there have been a few times where she has refused to go back to sleep after I pop the paci and I've rocked her-- they seem to correspond to illness or being in a weird environment. Just last week we were at my mom's house and I sort of had to rock her all night because she wouldn't sleep and I was worried I'd ruined sleep training because I'd rocked her when she cried at night... but our first night back at home and ever since she is back to sleeping totally normally (i.e. maybe waking up a few times but not needing more than a paci). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081927 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:56:25 +0000 Pumpkin Pie 2081927@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>It worked for us! Now even if we have a MOTN waking, she'll cry for 2-3 mins and fall back asleep! I don't know if it's just coincidence, but 2 days after we did CIO for MOTN, she started eating more during the day and we no longer have to fight her to eat! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081815 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:21:31 +0000 meredithNYC 2081815@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@blackbird: YES. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081812 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:19:56 +0000 meredithNYC 2081812@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Meridian: no advice, but just chiming in to offer my support as I know from experience it can be really hard when people jump in to tell you what you are doing is wrong. Do what is right for you and your baby and try not to be discouraged by negative viewpoints. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081805 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:17:42 +0000 blackbird 2081805@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yep. Stopped them all! For E, she still had a startle reflex and she basically had to get used to not having a tight swaddle around her. She just didn't get it. She wanted that swaddle so bad! She was 5 months and 3 weeks and after a few days, she just stopped waking up, or if she did, she'd kind of roll around, whine a little, find a comfy new place to chill, and go back to sleep easily! </p> <p>@mrsrugbee: hysteria for 3 hours is not standard CIO. There's also plenty of research to show that CIO is safe and non damaging. Anyways, commenting on a post ABOUT sleep training in which you tell the mother it is cruel and selfish is a dick move. </p> <p><a href="http://www.troublesometots.com/is-sleep-training-child-abuse/" rel="nofollow">http://www.troublesometots.com/is-sleep-training-child-abuse/</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081790 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:12:03 +0000 catomd00 2081790@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't believe in sleep training, so take my comments with a grain of salt. But, if your baby is able to settle himself back to sleep sometimes but not others, I would naturally assume that the times he doesn't settle himself means he needs something. The need for a snuggle and comfort is just as real and important as the need for a feeding.</p> <p>How old is baby? I found that things dramatically improved on their own around 8 months. At that point I could put my DD in her crib awake without protest. Leading up to that, it would be. Struggle of putting her down, her crying, picking up an rocking more...rinse and repeat for up to 30-45 minutes on average until one day she just stopped and was content putting herself to sleep. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081709 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:20:46 +0000 Grace 2081709@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>For us it depended on the age. If it was during a growth spurt or a true sleep regression (like 4 months, 9 months, 12 months and now 18 months), it didn't work. I just had to deal with it and wait for the switch that signaled the end of the regression/growth spurt. If it was inbetween times, I found even waiting 5-10 min before going in worked wonders. Sometimes she'd fall asleep before I got to the 10 min mark and it's as if she realised going back to sleep on her own wasn't so bad/hard. Good luck on the training! Take a look at Troublesome Tots website if you need encouragement. There's a lot of good, common-sense stuff on sleep training there. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081696 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:13:15 +0000 jape14 2081696@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>For us, definitely! We did modified Ferber with checks at 4 months. Prior to that, he was waking up 4-5+ times a night (only eating 1-2 times) and after sleep training, he went down to 2 MOTN wakings to eat very quickly (I think the second night?) and down to one a few weeks later. I think the quick success was 100% due to my son's temperament. Is there anything he uses to self-soothe? Our ped okayed having a lovey in the crib (we watched the monitor like a hawk - paranoid first-time parents) and it works so well to help him self-soothe. We even use it when he protests diaper changes and it helps him calm down in those situations, too. </p> <p>Hang in there, momma! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081675 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:01:35 +0000 mrsrugbee 2081675@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Peasinapod: your desperation doesn't make it any less traumatic on your child. Just because they're not crying anymore doesn't mean they're ok. Learned helplessness is a documented phenomenon.</p> <p>I also acknowledge a difference between letting your child fuss on and off, vs 3hrs of hysteria. My objection is to the latter. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081667 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:58:00 +0000 Peasinapod 2081667@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrsrugbee: unless you have literally been in the shoes of a parent who resorts to cio, please do not judge. You don't know the temperament of their baby, what works for one will not necessarily work for all. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081617 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:38:12 +0000 mrsrugbee 2081617@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>For us, no. My daughter's poor nights have to do with illness, severe teething (she cut 4 teeth at once) and wonder weeks. She can cry indefinitely and it would always make it worse than just soothing her. I also found that she has a habit of night-pooping so full extinction is a recipe for disaster. Once her leap was over, she went back to normal.</p> <p>I personally think CIO is quite cruel and selfish, particularly with certain children's temperments. There have been studies that show that children made to CIO have elevated stress hormone levels even days after they stop crying at night </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081591 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:26:20 +0000 tinyperson 2081591@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>For us, yes. We did it at 9 months when she started consistently waking up 1-1.5 hours after going down. It didn't work on early morning wakeups though (4:30-5:30). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081522 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:53:57 +0000 catlady 2081522@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>For us, yes. We did extinction with checks at around 5 months, after something like 6 weeks of trying more "gentle" methods. She went from waking 8-10 times per night (and having trouble getting back to sleep) to waking 2-3 times per night to nurse and then immediately going back to sleep. I want to say it was effective within 2 or 3 days, but we saw a difference even on the first night. </p> <p>Good luck and hugs! I know how hard this is. It will get better. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/did-ciosleep-training-help-wmotn-wakings-non-feeding-times#post-2081515 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:49:57 +0000 Meridian 2081515@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We're planning to sleep train later this week, hold me!! :sad: We're going the extinction route, as we've been doing timed check &amp; consoles for the past 7 WEEKS, but LO's sleep is still up and down, and bedtime is still a major battle. </p> <p>Just wondering, did sleep training help with random MOTN wakings that are NOT hunger wakings? He usually gets one bottle around 1 or 2AM, and we're fine keeping that. But he constantly wakes up at random times both before and after that feeding. Sometimes he can self soothe, but other times he will just cry and cry. </p>