https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Wed, 11 Nov 2026 03:35:03 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-858210 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:30:28 +0000 .twist. 858210@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mr. Jacks: lol. Most people have magazines about cars/fashion/decorating for light reads in the bathroom; my husband has books on string theory &amp; quantum physics..... pooping must be so fun. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857347 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:58:04 +0000 daddybee 857347@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mr. Jacks: nothing like a little Hawking and a cup of tea. Of course Sitchen is good to if you consider his translation of the Sumerian creation story as fact. If it is it would put a whole other twist on this discussion! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857345 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:57:51 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 857345@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mr. Jacks: Oh puhleeze, honey! When it comes to string theory and programming and sometimes on what the kids need in a particular moment! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857335 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:53:10 +0000 Mr. Jacks 857335@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@DADDYBEE, I know my SO is always right... When it comes to education, I am like a pre-schooler next to a grad student! But I am a science nerd and I have been known to read physics books for fun. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857323 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:47:27 +0000 plantains 857323@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: my only contribution to this discussion is to say that you are my hero. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857322 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:47:11 +0000 Mrs. Train 857322@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I must say I am so impressed by the civility of this conversation. I have been in many a heated argument about evolution (not by my choosing sometimes people just like to argue). I think I will just say thank you @Mrs. Jacks: I couldn't have worded it better myself and yeah for the monotremes, some of the coolest mammals around. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857319 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:44:56 +0000 mrbee 857319@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@daddybee: Thanks, much appreciated! We work really hard to maintain a civil and respectful community, so I appreciate your support on that front. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857310 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:37:22 +0000 daniellemybelle 857310@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mr. Jacks: +1 million for the Copernicus &amp; Galileo reference! How far you can deviate from taking the Bible as pure fact, and still be considered a believer, has varied over time as science has progressed and humans have changed. I firmly believe that sometime in the future, beliefs about gays and lesbians will fall under this as well. (Hope I'm not opening a new can of worms!)</p> <p>What's kind of unfortunate is that despite my desire, I've found it too difficult to cultivate a faith that leaves room for this kind of stuff, so I've just become a hopeful agnostic. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857300 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:32:31 +0000 CupQuakeWalk 857300@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am obviously very late to this party. I read every single comment and my mind is spinning too fast to formulate a decent/deserving response. I did, however, read one poster's statement and it summed up what I am/how I feel/ all I need to say on this topic:</p> <p>@Honeybee: "Yes, I believe in evolution. In my religion, science and the Bible are not mutually exclusive." &lt;&lt;yep.</p> <p>Change the word "bible" to "Quran" and that is me...</p> <p>I've got the brains to understand and accept science, as a miracle of God, and as a process only He has willed. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857296 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:30:31 +0000 lovebird 857296@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I believe in evolution. Even took a primate and human evolution class in college. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857295 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:30:29 +0000 immabeetoo 857295@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@apis: bahaha love this, and thanks for pointing it out</p> <p>interesting thread to read through. I'm agnostic and firmly believe in evolution. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857287 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:25:32 +0000 daddybee 857287@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: Thanks for the first warm welcome!!! It may have been taken wrong and may have bordered on off color. I will review the guidelines and tone down a bit. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857274 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:17:18 +0000 mrbee 857274@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@daddybee: Welcome to Hellobee! It's always exciting to see a fellow dad here!!</p> <p>&lt;&lt; Its not my evolutionary theory on women. It has been from a series of metaphorical parables that my SO has told me to take as fact and I read it on internet. &gt;&gt;</p> <p>I'm not sure if I'm understanding the reference... but I hope that isn't a joke about the bible? </p> <p>Either way, since you're a new member I thought I'd link to our community guidelines:<br /> <a href="http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hellobees-community-policies" rel="nofollow">http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hellobees-community-policies</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857253 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:10:26 +0000 daddybee 857253@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@yoursilverlining: I've seen it in real life and documented on tv, movies, and in books. I checked with my SO she verified this. It may not be true all the time but those who do not consider themselves right must be part of a previous variant of the evolutionary line that has not fully gone away. However, if my calculations are correct there are as many in that prior group as there are bengal tigers left in the world! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857225 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:57:59 +0000 yoursilverlining 857225@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@daddybee: but have you seen it in a documentary? Those must be factually based, and not just, who know, whatever. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857203 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:51:18 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 857203@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. High Heels: Thanks ;)</p> <p>@daddybee: Then it must be true! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857196 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:49:26 +0000 daddybee 857196@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Its not my evolutionary theory on women. It has been from a series of metaphorical parables that my SO has told me to take as fact and I read it on internet. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857183 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:44:37 +0000 Mrs. High Heels 857183@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't have anything to add, but I just wanted to pop in and say...</p> <p>@Mr. Jacks: @Mrs. Jacks: omg you guys are so cute!!!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857178 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:42:18 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 857178@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@daddybee: LOL. I'm seriously folding over laughing. I'm glad to see another dad representin' on the boards... And such a worthy first post. Mr. Jacks is now totally enamored with the Jesus pony! (And yes, you are correct on your evolutionary theory about women ;) I like you even more now!)</p> <p>@Oliviaoblivia: We'd love to have you too if you come to SLC! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/5#post-857175 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:41:37 +0000 oliviaoblivia 857175@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: @Mr. Jacks: if you ever take a trip to Toronto, I'd love to have you both over for dinner. Bravo! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-857171 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:39:34 +0000 daddybee 857171@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Mr and Mrs Jacks please dont bring marital bickering into an evolution discussion. For the way Im told it is women have evolved to always be right. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-857163 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:37:04 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 857163@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mewtill: Isn't it, though?! Actually, many of the Australian animals are so super cool because they evolved in such isolation!!! I mean mammals with venom?! That's just insane! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-857161 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:35:55 +0000 JoyfulKiwi 857161@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: Gah, I should have remembered the platypus! It's only the coolest animal ever! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-857152 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:33:47 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 857152@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mewtill: Shh... don't tell Mr. Jacks, but there are actually more than 2!</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotreme</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-857147 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:32:15 +0000 JoyfulKiwi 857147@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mr. Jacks: Really?! Wow - I didn't know that! I'm going to go look them up, that's really cool. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-857121 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:28:03 +0000 mrbee 857121@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>&lt;&lt; A non-Christian (secular) scientist is seeking ways to prove inter-species evolution in the same way that a Christian scientist might be seeking to prove that that sort of evolution is not possible. &gt;&gt;</p> <p>@photojane: I think maybe we just see things differently... and maybe we are using the words scientists/science differently as well. I will resist the urge to respond, and just wish you a good night instead! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-857078 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:23:46 +0000 Mr. Jacks 857078@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MEWTILL Not all mammals grow their young in their bodies, there are 2 in Australia that lay eggs (Sorry, I just had to correct that).</p> <p>I just have to start by saying that I think evolution is correct, I am agnostic, and I know the universe is 13.77 billion years old.</p> <p>That aside, Science itself is also subject to evolution but not because of random mutations but because our understanding of the physical world is constantly improving. This is the beauty of science, and a good example of this is the "big bang theory" and its relation to string theory (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_string_theory" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_string_theory</a>). Parts of string theory actually suggest that the big bang was one of many bangs that happend. There are a set of ideas that are the core of string theory that are accepted by most physicists but the edges are constantly being re-written and discussed.</p> <p>I think part of the problem that we see in this country is that we are re-hashing the place of religion in our world compared to science. This was done several hundred years ago by a guy named Copernicus (some of you may know of him), and later Galileo. They were both jailed for their comments about how the earth rotates around the sun and not the other way around... The church took their statements as blasphemy. The thing is, these men, as well as many scientists today, believe in God. They just understand that religion is there to explain the un-explainable and science gets the rest.</p> <p>Most people may get upset about this, but there are areas that science will never be able to explain, like what was there before the "big bang", or if there was actually intelligent design behind it all. What science can do is help us understand the physical rules that the universe is governed by (and these rules constantly change).</p> <p>Life is no accident. I do not believe in god, but I also cannot say he does not exist. But I also think that life on this planet was a matter of probabilities. Even if it the chances of life happening on a planet on its own were 1 in a hundred billion, there would still be millions of planets out there that have life.... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-856984 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:07:27 +0000 MrsScallop 856984@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: super big high five! I just love what you wrote.<br /> @photojane: Not to drag this out forever, but I feel the need to support what @mrbee is saying. Evolutionary theory shouldn't require faith to accept because it allows you to form testable hypotheses and those hypotheses have been supported over and over again. Further, evolution has been performed within a laboratory many times, so it doesn't require faith to see evolution occur and accept that it happened. Creationism, however, requires the belief in God and supernatural phenomena that cannot be tested. Thus you must have faith that God exists before you accept Creationism. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-856896 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:46:43 +0000 photojane 856896@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: By secular I simply means non-Christian. And, I simply do not believe that having a Christian worldview negates any scientific findings regarding creationism. A non-Christian (secular) scientist is seeking ways to prove inter-species evolution in the same way that a Christian scientist might be seeking to prove that that sort of evolution is not possible. </p> <p>But, honestly, I have no intentions or desire for a back-and-forth... I was just agreeing that both ideas require faith. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/do-you-believe-in-evolution/page/4#post-856853 Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:37:06 +0000 mrbee 856853@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@photojane: Not sure how you mean secular... I believe that both religious and non-religious scientists are capable of great science that honors the scientific method.</p> <p>When it comes to the science of evolution vs creationism though, I think the key thing is whether or not the scientist has a fixed worldview or a flexible one. If I found evidence that supported creationism, then I (and a lot of scientists) would wholeheartedly support it... I think that a flexible worldview is critical to good science. </p>