https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Tue, 14 Apr 2026 16:54:54 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1295086 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 20:34:53 +0000 lawbee11 1295086@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>If anyone is looking for something to do tonight you should go read all the comments on A&amp;E's Facebook page...very entertaining! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294536 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:02:29 +0000 MrsSCB 1294536@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@littlebug: Yeah I'm pretty sure Jesus, never said gay people were "full of murder" which is the latest thing to come out that Phil said. I'd just like to know where these gangs of murdering gay people are and how they've been staying under the radar so well... ;-)</p> <p><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/phil-robertson-video-on-gays-duck-dynasty-suspension-2013-12" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessinsider.com/phil-robertson-video-on-gays-duck-dynasty-suspension-2013-12</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294523 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:58:01 +0000 littlebug 1294523@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Beyond2: @blackbird: @Mrs. Blue: I don't think anyone is surprised that a redneck hillbilly has those views, I think they're just surprised that he put them out there publicly like that. At least, that's my take.</p> <p>It hasn't been up in my fb feed too much today, except for my Hubs's cousin who wrote "So...freedom of speech, unless it's pro-Jesus?" But that's not pro-Jesus to me. That's anti-gay, bigoted, racist bull. I'd be fired for saying shit like that. He should be, too. The first amendment protects you from being prosecuted, not from being fired. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294514 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:56:51 +0000 deactivated_account 1294514@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@blackbird: Agree. The surprise people are expressing is surprising in and of itself. I think I heard there are online videos of Phil making many of the same statements during incidents that predate the commencement of his show. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294415 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:20:02 +0000 Beyond2 1294415@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't agree with what he said, but I don't understand why people are so surprised? A&amp;E had no problem making money off their Christian image before this. I don't think he really hid the fact that he held these views before he came right out and said them. </p> <p>@pinkcupcake: Your comment reminded me a few verses from the Trace Adkins song, "Fightin Words" lol.</p> <p> "Excuse me, First amendment? Son, the first amendment protects you from the government not from me. You can say whatever you want to out there but you come within reach of me and I'll exercise my right to give you a good ol' country a$$ whoopin" </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294391 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:11:43 +0000 HLK208 1294391@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@blackbird: right. That's exactly how I feel about it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294367 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:57:11 +0000 pinkcupcake 1294367@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>What irritates me most is when ppl start screaming FIRST AMENDMENT and it's a private party involved. NOOOO people, it's only implicated when the govt is the one involved!!</p> <p>I don't know anything about this show but he's free to represent his views and a&amp;e is free to get rid of him. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294331 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:28:09 +0000 blackbird 1294331@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrs. blue and @mae, I thought the same thing! "hey, these ultra conservative fundie hillbillies are speaking up about their ignorant beliefs!" </p> <p>SURPRISE?!?!?! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294309 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:20:21 +0000 Arden 1294309@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Another round of applause for Rage Against the Minivan's post on it. I was so glad to read her post, she nailed it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294292 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:13:52 +0000 TemperanceBrennan 1294292@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@pui: I love her post about this and encourage everyone to read it. </p> <p>Some have said that A&amp;E should have known he has these views, but I think there is a very distinct line between being vocal about their Christian beliefs in their show (which A&amp;E was totally fine with) and saying that black people were happier pre-segregation and that homosexuality is like bestiality, and I won't even go into the graphic stuff he said about genitalia. </p> <p>I'm not a Christian, so I appreciate Kristen's sharing her views:</p> <p>From Kristen's <a href="http://www.rageagainsttheminivan.com/2013/12/duck-dynasty-first-amendment-rights-and.html">post</a><br /> "As a Christian, Phil’s views on gay people and on black people do not represent me, and I’m embarrassed by those who are holding him up as a martyr or an example. I get that Phil is dear to many . . . he’s a likable guy and a very public Christian. But that doesn’t excuse his ignorant remarks, nor does it mean that he gets a pass from accountability.</p> <p>Regardless of where we fall in the “is homosexuality a sin” debate, as Christians, our greatest charge is to LOVE. I don’t feel that Phil’s remarks were loving to gay people or to black people. And I don’t believe the blind support he is getting from Christians is very loving, either. " </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294254 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:58:40 +0000 lawbee11 1294254@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@scg00387: :heart: :heart: :heart: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294245 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:56:05 +0000 immabeetoo 1294245@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Ditto to everything @loveisstrange said. Also ill share this from someone on FB ha. </p> [attach=1391/13/my49ti.550x545.image.jpg] https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294221 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:40:03 +0000 lawbee11 1294221@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Blue: Agree! His other statements were wayyyyy more shocking to me (I think my jaw actually dropped at one point). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294216 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:38:06 +0000 Mae 1294216@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So A&amp;E hires a self-proclaimed "white trash" fundamentalist Christian… then said white trash fundamentalist Christian expresses views publicly that are precisely those held by the stereotype of white trash fundamentalist Christians… and everyone is surprised? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294205 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:34:50 +0000 MrsSCB 1294205@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Blue: I agree re: his other statements. My theory is that people who agree with him on the anti-gay statements are just choosing to ignore that part so they can get all up in arms about him being fired according to some gay agenda in the media or some nonsense. Because I'd like to think his words about pre-civil rights America would be viewed as wrong by pretty much everyone. Although I wish A&amp;E would have focused more on that in their statement about firing him. I think it would have been harder for people to argue with it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294191 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:29:04 +0000 Greentea 1294191@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@loveisstrange: yes yes yes! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294188 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:28:11 +0000 Mrs. Blue 1294188@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Honestly, I'm kind of shocked that so many people are shocked re: his statements on his views of homosexuality. :shocked: The Robertson family (and A&amp;E, for that matter) have blatantly put themselves out there as a staunchly conservative Christian family living in the South. While I certainly understand that many disagree with his view, I'm just shocked that people are shocked by it. It's not a new concept that many conservative Christians believe similarly to Mr. Robertson; look at every political debate regarding the right to marriage being one man one woman v. the right to marry whomever you choose. A &amp; E has to choose whether that's a view they want one of their stars proclaiming, but I don't really get them acting shocked by his view. </p> <p>Totally agree on the free speech bit. Government action, people, that's what you need to look for!</p> <p>ETA: I'm surprised there isn't more uproar about his other statements, like the statement about everyone seeming happy, etc. pre-civil rights era. Those statements were more shocking to me than any of this statements about his views on homosexuality. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294181 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:24:09 +0000 mrbee 1294181@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am with A&amp;E on this one.</p> <p>I think they will probably end up taking him back though. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294157 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:16:48 +0000 JoJoGirl 1294157@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>:)</p> <p>[attach=2295/13/my4801.600x300.image.jpg]</p> <p>(Not to begrudge any HBers who agree with what he said.. to each their own.. but I share this more because it addresses the whole first amendment business!) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294131 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:11:32 +0000 MrsSCB 1294131@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: same, especially because a lot of the people I've seen claiming this is a first amendment issue are the same people who want "the government to stay out of ____." And yet, it seems they would want the government to dictate who a private business can and can't employ based on "free speech"? Makes no sense. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294101 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:04:23 +0000 lawbee11 1294101@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsSCB: This drives me insane. The First Amendment protects government infringement on speech. A&amp;E is not the government--they are a private company and can do whatever the eff they want (and I agree with their decision!). Love the meme :happy: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294094 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:02:47 +0000 pui 1294094@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This basically sums up my thoughts:</p> <p><a href="http://www.rageagainsttheminivan.com/2013/12/duck-dynasty-first-amendment-rights-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rageagainsttheminivan.com/2013/12/duck-dynasty-first-amendment-rights-and.html</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294086 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:59:49 +0000 deerylou 1294086@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This really has nothing to do with free speech and it's annoying that people keep bringing it up. Yes, he's entitled to his beliefs and opinions. But, if you take it upon yourself to express such sentiments within or representing your workplace, your job could very reasonably be in jeopardy. His comments were ignorant at best, and bigoted/racist, at worst. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294075 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:56:41 +0000 blackbird 1294075@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>He is entitled to his belief and A&amp;E is entitled to suspend someone that they employ for a viewpoint they disagree with. </p> <p>Just like anyone who has a job at any company, right? I can't run around spewing shit like that at work and not be suspended for it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294068 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:54:50 +0000 MrsSCB 1294068@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@loveisstrange: YES. It's driving me crazy to see how many people (including the freaking governor of Louisiana) are calling this a first amendment issue. He has every right to say whatever he likes, which he obviously did. He does not have the right to say whatever he likes without consequences. Some people need to review what "freedom of speech" really means.</p> <p>[attach=2844/13/my46zf.300x300.image.jpg] </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1294062 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:51:55 +0000 LuLu Mom 1294062@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This is blowing up my FB newsfeed, most in support of him. We do watch the show, I enjoy the family &amp; the good clean humor of it, I do believe in freedom of speech HOWEVER I also beleive that you have to know what you say can have consequences, which is proven here. </p> <p>I think it would have been one thing when asked to say "I follow &amp; believe in the teachings of my religion which is..." and leave it at that. BUT it's when he compares homosexiality to beastiality that boils my blood, no need to take it there and insult people by comparing them to a digusting practive, because they are no where near the same thing. There was NO reason to take it to that place, and he did which is why I agree with the suspension. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1293462 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:18:09 +0000 edelweiss 1293462@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>i'm not sure what his contract says, but i doubt that A&amp;E is obligated to continue to pay him to do the show when he does something the execs find jeopardizes the show, the network's image, etc. A&amp;E is a private entity not subject to the free speech clause in the bill of rights, it doesn't have to fund his lifestyle or anyone else's, regardless of their views. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1293438 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:00:18 +0000 Shutterbug 1293438@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MsMamaBear: haha right? It's like a bunch of Dumbledores in camo! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1293437 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:00:01 +0000 Lindsay05 1293437@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Shutterbug: damn! Thx for correcting me :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/duck-dynasty-scandal#post-1293435 Fri, 20 Dec 2013 07:57:19 +0000 Shutterbug 1293435@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Lindsay05: it was GQ that asked him that question, not A&amp;E, but I see your point about the scandal only increasing the show's popularity with like-minded people. I've never seen this show, but I can picture them leaving A&amp;E and winding up on another channel (Fox News or something like that... a conservative channel)</p> <p>ETA: oh and in case it wasn't clear, I think everything he said was awful and reprehensible. </p>