https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 05 Jun 2026 03:48:22 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1764571 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:03:23 +0000 mdf106 1764571@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I had no idea my LO had this until now. I had noticed there is a big gap between the two front teeth. I have had a relatively easy time breastfeeding, the only symptom I have had is that LO has always taken a long time to eat for his age. I did have pain and trouble latching early on, but I think it was in the normal range. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1761272 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 23:05:12 +0000 cheert16 1761272@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I had one and had it clipped when I was a teenager when I got braces to close the gap between my teeth. When I brought LO to the dentist- they commented that he had one as well and would need it clipped at some point to have the gap between his teeth close up. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1761199 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 22:02:23 +0000 AprilFool 1761199@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>LO had a lip tie and we had it clipped at 6 weeks and she still has the gap. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1761190 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 21:55:51 +0000 MamaPhoenix 1761190@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Vegmama: That is a great article! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1761183 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 21:53:00 +0000 MamaPhoenix 1761183@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So I would say she's a class three lip tie. It doesn't come down through the space between the teeth and connect to the underside/ behind. This classification can be grown out of,but it's hard to say for sure. Primary teeth do need some slight spacing between. More than likely if she had it removed before those primary anterior central incisors came in she might not of had such a larger space. I would talk to your dentist, there's no such thing as too early when you have questions concerns in regards to LO's dentition. Most likely they will tell you to just wait and see. There's no emerg regarding this situation that would warrant exposing your Lo to X-rays (radiation) to see how her Permanent dentition is sitting. A panoramic x-ray would show all the teeth she has right now in her maxillary and mandible. @photojane:<br /> She's super cute by the way.<br /> The heart shaped tongue is also associated with a posterior tongue tie. a lot of times it is overlooked and discovered when the mother and child struggle with BFing.<br /> I personally believe that it would save a lot of mama's a lot of heart ache and head ache if hospital nurses could be trained to spot these things.<br /> My boss even got into an argument after giving birth to her son. She said to the nurse " he's looking tongue tied' the nurse responded with "no he's fine there's nothing there" my boss said "are you sure?" and the nurse snapped at her " what's it too you, like your a dentist or something" My boss what like " ya as a matter of fact I am". My boss lazered her son that week.<br /> They did not have to sedate him. The procedure took 5 min. The lazer actually cauterized the tissue immediately and it acts as an analgesic. There's very little pain, more just uncomfortable. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1761138 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 21:28:39 +0000 erinpye 1761138@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My eldest DD had a posterior tongue tie and a lip tie. We had them lasered and in my opinion, it's necessary. Dr. Ghaheri as mentioned above is an excellent resource, as is Dr. Kotlow (www.kiddsteeth.com). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1761038 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:42:25 +0000 Vegmama 1761038@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Here you go: <a href="http://www.drghaheri.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.drghaheri.com/blog/</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1761033 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:41:34 +0000 Vegmama 1761033@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Our LO had a major lip tie, and since I had such a hard time with breastfeeding in the beginning, we had it lasered at 5 days. Her tongue tie was corrected at 9 weeks. Our ENT exclusively focuses on ties, and is an amazing resource. Since lip ties can cause dental issues and speech delay, he recommends correcting them as early as possible. I'll add a link to his blog where he discusses in depth. I should mention that every single parent in Portland goes to him with tie issues. He's the only doc that does laser treatment, and is very good at diagnosing and treating. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760971 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:08:59 +0000 rachiecakes 1760971@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@photojane: that's the same advice I got from our pediatrician. I think because everyone is different and develops differently, they can't really say at when they're really young. Some grow out of it, some don't and you really don't know.<br /> If you have a lip tie like I do but your teeth were fine, she likely has a pretty good chance that hers will do the same.<br /> It's funny you say that about her heart-shaped tongue, it's never been mentioned by the doctor or even the LCs I had, but J has one too (and a very slight posterior tongue tie, but we didn't clip it/notice it). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760964 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:04:57 +0000 photojane 1760964@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Thanks so much everyone! I did talk to the ped at her 15m appointment, but when she was trying to look in Sadie's mouth, Sadie was just not having it. She got a little look, but didn't try very hard &amp; said: "It doesn't really matter at this point. They wouldn't do any kind of fix until she's at least 2 or 3." :bummed: She also had a pretty bad tongue tie at birth. It was clipped and we had follow-up appointments with the surgeon for 6 months. She also has a heart-shaped tongue. I'm wondering if it's all connected..?</p> <p>@rachiecakes: Sadie's lip tie looks pretty similar to J's, I think. I have a little bit of a lip tie too, but never had a gap like Sadie's. I'm hoping hers closes in as well as J's has!</p> <p>@yellowbird: @MamaPhoenix: I got a better picture tonight, post-bath, pre-teeth brushing when she was laying on her changing pad. What do y'all think? She's 17 months, by the way. (And, yes, she's so pissed at me that she's totally stabbing herself in the eye. :silly: ) </p> [attach=1879/14/n8s5ob.450x600.photo-1-.JPG] https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760767 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 17:49:28 +0000 78h2o 1760767@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This is my LO at 7 months. She still has a gap now, but it's smaller.</p> <p>[attach=2480/14/n8rzeg.600x448.image.jpg]</p> <p>Now: </p> [attach=2480/14/n8rzo8.448x600.image.jpg] https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760280 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:36:57 +0000 MamaPhoenix 1760280@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This might help. </p> [attach=4771/14/n8rnpl.600x444.classifications-of-lip-ties.jpg] https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760265 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:30:50 +0000 MamaPhoenix 1760265@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This is a picture of a sever lip tie. There are different classifications. Some cause more issues than others. Not everyone has the same lip tie. </p> [attach=4771/14/n8rnfe.259x194.sever-lip-tie.jpg] https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760238 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:18:18 +0000 rachiecakes 1760238@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Anagram: when I first noticed J's I checked my own mouth and was shocked that I had one too because of everything I read on the internet about the space, speech issues, etc.<br /> I mentioned J's to the pediatrician and because mine hadn't caused any issues, he suggested we wait and see what happens to J's and a year and a half later? Looks just like mine, lol, no space, no issues </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760176 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:57:38 +0000 Anagram 1760176@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@rachiecakes: Mine looks exactly like yours! Except my gap between my teeth came back after I had braces because I never wore my retainer. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760047 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:20:20 +0000 rachiecakes 1760047@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Both me &amp; J have one. Here's a picture of mine (I've never had braces) and J's at around 10 months.</p> <p>I never had a gap between my teeth past early childhood (beyond baby teeth).<br /> J's has closed up just like mine.<br /> (ETA picture of J now)</p> <p>[attach=1845/14/n8rk5x.226x130.rachie.jpeg]</p> <p>[attach=1845/14/n8rk5y.226x146.babyj.jpeg] </p> [attach=1845/14/n8rkaj.304x236.image.jpg] https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760031 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:16:54 +0000 78h2o 1760031@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My LO's mouth looked the same and both the lactation consultant and ped said it was a lip tie... however, neither they nor the ENT I consulted suggested I do anything about it because she was a little older (close to a year). They said she would need to be put under to do it (though I have heard there are places you can get it done where they don't put them under). We are just going to wait and see. I don't forsee it causing speech issues, but maybe we will want to address it for cosmetic reasons, I don't know. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760019 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:12:14 +0000 MamaPhoenix 1760019@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@hilsy85: Yes mostly from breastfeeding issues, unless it's sever. having it done young could prevent having to have braces in the future for the diastima (gap) between the front teeth. Lip ties don't close the gap usually because there's tissue there. Some server cased lead to sever lisp when older as well. It's not a life threatening situation. If your child struggles with pronunciation down the line you could also have it sniped/lasered then. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760014 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:10:11 +0000 NovBaby1112 1760014@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Trailmix: that's what our ped said too. LO had a lip tie and tounge tie when she was younger, caused us some BFing issues that we pushed through bc I was too nervous to have it cut, and her lip tie ended up ripping on its own when she fell around a year. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1760000 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:05:52 +0000 hilsy85 1760000@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaPhoenix: but I think they ONLY recommend correcting it at a young age if you are having breastfeeding issues, as you did, correct? That's what I heard from our dentist and LC. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1759997 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:05:05 +0000 hilsy85 1759997@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Trailmix: my pedi also said they often rip on their own (ouch!). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1759993 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:03:30 +0000 MamaPhoenix 1759993@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Gaps between the primary dentition is favorable. The lo needs room for so that the permanent dentition can erupt without spacing being an issue. A LIP TIE actually goes from between the front teeth and attaches to the anterior palate. This usually does not close up. The space will likely stay. Now if its just a space again it more that likely will close. Having the frenectomy causes no harm at any age. My LO way 4 months, when we had it done due to breast feeding issues and she's perfectly fine. A lisp is usually connected with a lip tie. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1759181 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:26:16 +0000 Boheme 1759181@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My LO had his lip tie and tongue tie corrected, and it was no biggie!<br /> Maybe see what the dentist says when she goes? Unrelated: She is SO cute! Her pics make me smile :grin: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1759165 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:21:24 +0000 Anagram 1759165@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So I myself have this, as did my dad and most of my siblings. None of us had speech issues at all growing up--in fact, when I took my LO to have her posterior tongue tie and lip ties cut (for BFing problems), I showed the pediatric ENT my own tongue and lip ties and she actually gasped and said MINE were severe, whereas my LOs were mild. She said some babies/kids just naturally learn how to compensate for these things, and have no problems. And yet, my LO with mild cases has major issues BFing. Strange, right?</p> <p>But I was breastfed with no issues (according to my mom), and I never had any speech problems at all. I also had braces as a teenager and they didn't do anything special to it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1759128 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:12:13 +0000 Trailmix 1759128@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Both of mine have this (the tie and the gap), our ped dentist wasn't concerned at all. He said a lot of times kids actually fall and split the tie on their own (yikes!) but at this age, no need to worry or do anything... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1759097 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:04:50 +0000 hilsy85 1759097@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@yellowbird: @sorrycharlie: my LO also has a lisp! I agree that its pretty cute :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1759077 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:57:32 +0000 yellowbird 1759077@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@sorrycharlie: A has a lisp too! Maybe it is related? I'm not too worried about it tight now because it could just be a toddler thing like you said. It's pretty adorable. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1759068 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:53:55 +0000 petunia354 1759068@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Owen has the same thing! The dentist/ped never mentioned it but I always wondered if it was going to be an issue with speech or down the line with the gap. Have you asked your ped or dentist about it? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1759006 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:13:27 +0000 sorrycharlie 1759006@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I asked our ped (Liv has the same thing) and she said there wasn't a need to do anything. That maybe when she gets braces down the line but for now it's fine. I do notice she has a slight lisp sometimes but hard to tell if it's from that or just being a toddler. Lol. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/gap-lip-tie#post-1758986 Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:04:21 +0000 yellowbird 1758986@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I would not do anything right now! Even if the gap persists when the permanent incisors come in, it usually goes away when the canines come down. If it doesn't a combo of braces and a frenectomy may be indicated but that's 12 or so years from now! </p>