https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Mon, 13 Apr 2026 19:52:10 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1287663 Tue, 17 Dec 2013 21:03:07 +0000 Mrswonderwoman 1287663@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>MsLipGloss - yes, he is. I realize that might seem like a problem, but our room is PITCH BLACK. Though, I'm beginning to think that the whole I-can-smell-the-milk is not helping either.</p> <p>We did end up changing the bedtime routine this week. We moved nursing to the beginning, and so far, he's done great. He's gone down with zero crying or fussing at all. However, he's been having earlier wake ups than usual. He cries for maybe 5-10 mins, then goes back to sleep, usually about 2 hours after we put him to bed. Strange...</p> <p>We're delaying our full-on attack of sleep training until after the holidays. Then DH is going to help a bit more and we're going to be a bit more aggressive with night weaning and sleep training. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1278481 Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:44:38 +0000 MsLipGloss 1278481@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: your LO is in the same room with you? You need separation to allow the training to work. You are really at a disadvantage being in the same room. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1278471 Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:40:16 +0000 Mrswonderwoman 1278471@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Sorry I've been MIA - little man is a little stuffed up and having trouble sleeping, and I have a cold. Fun times!</p> <p>@novbaby1112 - the room at night is a bit chilly, probably no more than 64 degrees, though we have him in PJs and a sleep sack to keep him warm enough. I'm not sure about too much sleep during the day, but he usually gets about 3 hours total for naps.</p> <p>@rubycali he usually nurses fairly well, but lately it's been harder since he's been stuffed up. He's a very distracted little guy as well! He's not super great with solids yet, but he does have some twice a day, sometimes 3 times if I'm on top of things. I do wonder if he's hungry sometimes though...</p> <p>ANyways, we're kinda hitting the pause button all of this until he's less stuffed up and I'm feeling better. We're just all way too tired to endure any kind of repeat sleep training right now. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1252815 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 00:12:12 +0000 Foodnerd81 1252815@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: just reading all this now- that's really rough. No advice but it's funny we are on a really similar schedule lately- my 4 month old has been waking at 11 for the last few nights, sometimes can fall back asleep and sometimes needs to be nursed, then again between 2-3 and between 5-6. Up round 7 or 8. It's tiring!! We are currently nap training so I'm not working too hard on night weaning yet, but looking at these responses. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1252720 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:13:18 +0000 RubyCali 1252720@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Poor baby and poor mama! What is his nursing and solid intake like during the day? Could he be hungry? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1252707 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:05:17 +0000 immabeetoo 1252707@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: did you ever try the earlier bed time? my LO needed a wayy earlier bedtime when we transitioned to 2 naps (and then again when we transitioned to 1). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1252699 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:00:01 +0000 NovBaby1112 1252699@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: I'm sorry, that sounds so rough :( I am surprised he is still having night wakings after sleep training so long ago, hmmm. so how old is he now, about 11 months? Is he getting TOO much sleep during the day? Is the room too hot or cold? Is he eating enough during the day? Just trying to think of other possibilities... And you are being consistent on a bedtime routine and how you respond to night wakings? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1252637 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 21:30:23 +0000 Mrswonderwoman 1252637@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Well, a bit of an update.</p> <p>We are STILL dealing with night wakings, usually at least 3 per night. We tend to let him CIO for at least one of them, but they are definitely a pattern. Almost always sometime between 10-11PM, another around 2, and another around 5, up for the day at 7. Ideally, we'd love to get rid of at least one of those night wakings, but we're kind of at a loss. He's cried for upwards of 1-2 hours off and on, whimpering and then calming down, but then crying again 5 minutes later when I think he's finally fallen asleep. So....I'm not sure what to do at this point. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1205819 Sat, 09 Nov 2013 09:39:12 +0000 hilsy85 1205819@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: I think it really depends...I think if the tooth is about to pop through and its the time when the pain is most acute, I personally would probably just go in and give motrin or some snuggles. But like you said, teething goes on a LOOOONG time, so I don't think it's realistic to say You can't sleep train when they're teething, since babies in the first 2 years are pretty much always teething to some extent. I personally would do it as long as, like I said, it doesn't seem like LO is in pain--in that case, I would go in and do what I needed to do to make him feel better. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1201749 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:17:42 +0000 Mrswonderwoman 1201749@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Ugh. Now I feel bad. I just discovered a new tooth this morning. Poor kid! I knew he was working on the top two, but totally didn't noticed a new one breaking through on the bottom. Now I feel bad! Do you all sleep train during teething? I feel like it never stops so I might as well... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1201113 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 09:30:46 +0000 hilsy85 1201113@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: hm that sounds like enough sleep...but maybe try an earlier bedtime for a few days and see what happens? We just did that with my LO and I think it actually helped--he started sleeping through til 5 and then going back down til 6, whereas before he had been waking at 1, 3, or 4.</p> <p>ETA it might just also take time with the sleep training...I would give it another try on a weekend and try to be consistent--either go in for checks at scheduled times, or don't go in if you're doing extinction, and don't feed him if you're trying to night wean...I know it's so tough tho when whipping out the boobies puts them to sleep right away! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1201097 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 09:27:09 +0000 Mrswonderwoman 1201097@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>He wake for the day between 6:30-700, usually closer to 7. Nap 1 is between 9/930 and lasts usually around 80 mins. We just switched to two naps so his second nap is around 2 and is usually 90 mins sometimes two hours. I think he's still struggling with just two naps sometimes, but he usually wakes happy. </p> <p>Bedtime is 7:30, though I think we could try earlier. Basically his awake time is about 2.5- 3 - 3.5 for the day. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1201033 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 09:09:10 +0000 hilsy85 1201033@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: ugh sorry you had a rough night!! What time is bedtime, and how does he nap during the day? One of the things I read was that when babies are waking every 2-3 hours, that's usually a sign of being over tired. So maybe move up his bedtime, at least for a few days, to help him re set? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200943 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 08:32:23 +0000 Mrswonderwoman 1200943@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Oh boy....not so good. *sigh*</p> <p>He's like clockwork. I can pretty much predict when he will wake since it's definitely habit. His first waking is 3 hours after I put him down, almost every night. Last night, he woke at that time, and cried off and on for almost an hour and a half! I picked him up to soothe him once after about 35 mins, and he immediately relaxed and stopped crying, but then started up because I wasn't nursing him. So I put him back in his PnP, he calmed down for about 10 mins, I thought he fell asleep. Only to ramp back up again. He finally fell asleep though. But only stayed asleep for an hour! Ugh.</p> <p>I'm exhausted.... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200889 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 08:09:41 +0000 JoJoGirl 1200889@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: Awesome!! I was also going to say keep the lights on while nursing in addition to adding a book afterward. So glad you had success last night, I think that'll help a TON. How was the rest of the night? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200541 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 21:16:42 +0000 Mrswonderwoman 1200541@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mamaj - no, he can't really see me. I have the pack n play sort of wedged next to the bed and our room is PITCH dark.</p> <p>@shinymama interesting. Well, DS won't even TAKE a bottle. At this point, I'm fairly positive his wakings are definitely habit.</p> <p>@Hilsy85 I was hoping you'd pipe in :) We tried something different last night. I kind of make changes gradually, but I think he's more capable than I give him credit. Instead of nursing him in the dark, I actually kept the lights on. He was wide awake when I laid him down to go to bed. I gave him a kiss, said night night and I love you, and laid him down and turned the lights out and white noise on. He babbled, stood up, fussed for a second, rolled around, then went to sleep without any trouble. So, I think if we add a book in between, that would work. I think we'll try that this weekend when I have reinforcements from my husband the next day when I'm blurry-eyed and tired... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200385 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:30:44 +0000 hilsy85 1200385@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: Yes to your question about REALLY separating nursing from sleep...that's what we had to do. I did the whole nursing til he was drowsy but awake, but it wasn't until we made the routine bath, nurse, book, bed, that he was able to reduce his night wakings. I think nursing too close to bedtime just didn't work for us. So I would definitely try switching it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200199 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:05:52 +0000 shinymama 1200199@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>According to our pediatrician, night wakings past about 7-8 months are not due to hunger, but habit. Not sure if your LO is taking bottles, but he suggested giving him a small bottle with water so he would no longer associate a night waking with breast milk/formula. By the third night, he stopped waking up to eat. </p> <p>FWIW, our LO was in our room during this time also, and was able to STTN, so I do think it's possible without moving him out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200197 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:03:58 +0000 MamaJ 1200197@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrswonderwoman: can he see you from the pack and play when he wakes in the middle of the night? Could that be the culprit? I went from cosleeping to putting DS in his crib in his room at 9 months. It took about 2 weeks for him to really STTN. He still wakes up here and there. Usually because of a dirty diaper. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200185 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 16:56:05 +0000 Mrswonderwoman 1200185@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Jojogirl - I think you are onto something and right about drowsy nursing. I think that's our problem. We are really trying to end the sucking to sleep association. Pacis too. So I think separating the nursing from bedtime is good. Right now, I nurse him in a dark room then lay him in his pack n play. So I'm sure that's part of it. The thing is, he is SO used to our routine, so changing will be tough. But I think we will give it a go. Also, I love troublesome tots!!!</p> <p>Septca - we are no longer sharing a bed unless it's snuggles thug before getting up for the day. He sleeps in a pack n play in our room though. Our house layout is such that we probably won't move him out of our room until he's night weaned completely. But it's sort of a chicken or egg thing, because maybe moving homWILL help him STTN. So much confusion! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200085 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:58:17 +0000 septca 1200085@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Are you co-sleeping? I think, to really sleep train, you have to have the baby separate from you. My DD mostly STTN, but if we share a room for some reason (travel and staying in a hotel, for example), she wakes up 4-5 times a night. I think it has to do with biorhythms and knowing that the milk is close by. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200055 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:45:56 +0000 JoJoGirl 1200055@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Hugs mama!!!</p> <p>Are you nursing him *to sleep*? What do you do between nursing and bedtime? </p> <p>Babies are tricky in that they can fall into "light sleep" with their eyes open while nursing, so appear to be awake when you put them down, but are actually already sort of dozed off. Then they (especially at that age!) need the same sleep association to get back to sleep between sleep cycles - object permanence and all that. </p> <p>We started working on breaking LO of this habit around 4.5-5 months by adding a quick book in between nursing and bed. Literally a 7 page baby book, but it was enough to make sure she was awake before we put her down. That was the first step.</p> <p>Once she got better at falling asleep on her own at bedtime (she still will fuss for maybe 10-15 mins some nights, especially if her last nap was a little too late), we started working on middle of the night. After a sleep consult, we picked a time before which she really couldn't be hungry (at 5.5 months), and decided to let her cry if she woke before that. Our time was 2am (after last meal is usually at 7:30pm). She's woken up maybe 3 times before 2am since we made this rule and usually cries for 10 mins before falling back asleep, but then stays asleep til 4-5am when I feed her and she sometimes goes back to sleep. </p> <p>I think you have to really work to not give in to nursing back to sleep! Even if you don't want to CIO and want to comfort her/do intervals, do ANYTHING other than nursing to sleep. Pat her back, give her the paci, pick her up if you have to, just not nursing til she's asleep cause then she'll learn "I only have to cry for x minutes before mom will come in and nurse me". Has it gotten progressively better at ALL?</p> <p>I'd recommend <a href="http://www.troublesometots.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.troublesometots.com</a> for more thoughts on nursing to sleep etc! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/help-me-problem-solve-sleep-training-my-10-month-old#post-1200040 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:39:35 +0000 Mrswonderwoman 1200040@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Alright, we've been co sleeping since the beginning and full time breast feeding. My DS used to sleep 4 hrs-3hrs-3hrs before the dreaded 4 month sleep regression and swaddle weaning. Since then, he's never been that great of a sleeper. Every once in a while he would surprise me with a 4 hour stretch, but it is sooooo rare. He was to the point only a few weeks ago where we were up at least every 2 hours with him, sometimes falling back asleep if I held him for a bit, and sometimes only with nursing. He sleeps with a paci, and it would fall out and he'd stay asleep, but during the sleep cycle transitions, when he's sleeping more lightly, he could never manage to fall back asleep on his own.</p> <p>So, we finally decided enough was enough and would do some sleep training to help him fall asleep on is own, and hopefully lengthen his sleep stretches a bit. We started last Friday. I nursed him before bed, laid him down without his paci, he cried and fussed for 10 minutes, and then fell asleep on his own. No help from us whatsoever. He woke up at pretty much ALL the exact same times he usually does, so obviously it's a habit. A few times he cried and put himself back to sleep, but not without quite a bit of tears.</p> <p>We've been sticking with it ever since, and it really hasn't gotten much better, unfortunately. Still waking every 2-3 hours. He will wake crying and fussing, then calming down so much so that I think he's fallen back asleep, only to ramp back up again. This can go on for close to an hour. Last night it, was from 10:30-11:20, then again another time, I'm not even sure when.</p> <p>I've been thinking about what else we can change, because I know he can fall asleep on his own, but he's still having such a hard time in the middle of the night! I'm trying not to cave and nurse him to sleep for all of his wake ups, but last night was pretty awful, so I gave in twice...I really don't mind at least one night time feeding, but he really doesn't need 3...or 4! My concern is that maybe we need to switch up our bedtime routine so that nursing isn't the very last thing we do, because I'm wondering if maybe he's still associating that time with falling asleep. Do you think that might be the case? </p> <p>I'm just not sure how long it's supposed to take for babies to lengthen their sleep with sleep training. I'm trying to slowly stretch the gaps with his feeding (on the weekend with the time change, he went 7 hours between feedings, so he can do it...but he still woke like 3 times during those 7 hours...)</p> <p>I'm sooooooo ready for at least one longer stretch of the night where he will sleep in peace. Does anyone have any suggestions, tips or advice? I feel like we're not making a whole lot of progress :-( </p>