https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:58:03 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-296067 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:41:12 +0000 Maysprout 296067@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>She slept in our room for a long while and she was happy with that arrangement. We got her to fall asleep though in her own room and then I'd end up going in and sleeping next to her the 2nd half of the night, which worked out just fine because my husband woke up for awhile at 4 am anyways. Now though that he doesn't wake up that early he's been on night duty since LO because too reliant and waking up to check to make sure I was still there, she still wakes up at night but not as often and goes back to bed quickly. When we've let her cry it just goes on and on and on and then we can't get her to go to sleep except with ALOT of effort for like a week. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-296052 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:30:14 +0000 Clementine 296052@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Maysprout: Thanks, Maysprout. What did you end up doing? I still haven't given up on sleep training only because physically speaking I just can't wake up every couple of hours to nurse, rock, or hold him. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-296051 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:28:10 +0000 Clementine 296051@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: Thanks, Mrs. Jacks. He eventually got better, but after vaca sleep training round 2 has been hard. It def may not be for my LO. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-296045 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:23:39 +0000 Maysprout 296045@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Clementine: Sorry it's not working out for you guys. It didn't work out for us either. Sometimes I feel like we're pulling the bandaid off slowly but our LO didn't take well to sleep training attempts either, I think there's just so many different baby personalities which makes it difficult for any one size fits all technique. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-296042 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:21:22 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 296042@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Clementine: It's really ok not to sleep train if it's not working for your little guy. It makes me sad to hear about how impacted he is by it! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-296037 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:15:16 +0000 Clementine 296037@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Amandaly: i spoke to my ped today and she told me to give my LO a break then gradually start the sleep training process once again. after our vaca, i did it cold turkey and she's thinking that maybe why he's not doing well. He needed some time to adjust back home. I hope things are getting better for you! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-295529 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:11:34 +0000 Amandaly 295529@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@cherry: Does your ped think that 10 months is older as he is pretty aware and alert? We are on day 5 and he does seem a little better, however, he's more clingy during they day with me and seems to having separation anxiety when he never used to. I just wish there was another way to get him to sleep better without leaving him alone ultimately to finally fall asleep.<br /> His sleep was not really "that" bad, but he had recently started waking at 4 AM habitually and it was taking one or two hours to get him back to sleep. Other than that I didn't mind tending to him in the night hours. Also, we put him to sleep at an early hour (6 PM) as I had read a book that this was best and because no matter what we could not him to sleep past the 5 AM hour...I notice that he will wake up around 5 AM and try until 6 AM to go back to sleep. Sometimes he will sleep for 20 minutes it seem during that time...But, I know he needs more sleep as like last night, we had to let him cry for 40 minutes combined.. Anyway..thanks for everyone's encouragement and advice. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-294564 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 23:44:06 +0000 erwoo 294564@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Aaaw...hang in there! I'm sure it's only temporary! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-294444 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:33:26 +0000 Freckles 294444@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I agree with Mr. Bee. After the first day of doing CIO, she wasn't as happy and smiley as usual and i was sooo sad and worried that i made her that way. But after the second day she was back to her usual self, and it could be because she got much more sleep compared to the previous night. </p> <p>I think parents tend to project emotions/feelings that aren't there, especially at this age. My ped thinks (of course it's just his opinion) that sleep training affects babies more when they're older and more aware of things.</p> <p>Hang in there! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-294320 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:28:21 +0000 Mrs. Pen 294320@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Amandaly: aw you are welcome :) </p> <p>yup. His sleep all around the board was messed up - it was really hard. He didn't nap because he hadn't slept well. </p> <p>Once we got night time sleep down, his naps started to work themselves out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-294001 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:52:20 +0000 Amandaly 294001@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@coco bee: I so appreciate your reply and your advice!! I love the idea of following your gut instead of rules. Did you notice his naps getting messed up when you working on the nighttime? It seems he doesn't want to fall asleep for naps and stay asleep when i put him in the crib, as it's like he's afraid of the crib now and of me leaving him like I have to do at night. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-293926 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:24:10 +0000 Mrs. Pen 293926@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Amandaly: Naps were HORRID for about two weeks. We were also weaning the swaddle at the time so it was just brutal. My son was nearly 6 months.</p> <p>I say follow your gut. I wasn't very consistent either only because I knew I had to stay true to myself - I'm his mom and know what's best for him. I could tell if his cries were telling me he was genuinely hurt by me, and I would give in and soothe him. I never wanted him to be "mad" at me or feel betrayed, so I followed my instincts rather than a book. And because of that, I don't regret a thing. Sure, it took a lot longer - but it' better that you feel good about what you do!</p> <p>Once his night sleeping got better, we focused more on naps. Eventually it became a healthy cycle; his night sleep was great, so his day naps were great. But when one was off, the other was too. At this age they don't "make up" for sleep. Sleep begets sleep. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-293910 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:18:58 +0000 Amandaly 293910@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@coco bee: that was so good to hear...We've always rocked him to sleep or stood by the bed while he played with our hand until he fell asleep. We aren't the best at being consistent (we are both softies) so we have done some extinction and some controlled crying. This is the 4th night. I've only had the courage to do it at one nap. How do you do it for nap times? I'm so afraid he will just cry the whole hour of nap time and then just boycott his nap. How old was your baby then? I ended up rocking him for both naps today and he got much happier by bedtime, but then I put him down awake at bedtime again...So, I do know that nurturing him and rocking him brings out his precious personality and I don't want to lose that through this training. Thank you both! </p> <p>@clementine, why have you decided not to do CIO and what are you thinking of doing? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-293616 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:49:54 +0000 Clementine 293616@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Amandaly: It actually took 2 weeks for my little guy to crack a smile. It may take a little bit longer too because your LO is older and habits are hard to break when they are younger.<br /> Right now, I'm currently re-training my son to sleep, to be completely honest, this second time around, I'm not sure if CIO is right for him. I'm beginning to really think, it's not right for my baby. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-293582 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:32:06 +0000 Mrs. Pen 293582@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Amandaly: the same thing happened to me and we sleep trained DS only a week after @Clementine did. But once his sleep was established and on a better routine - he got better. In fact I think he's even HAPPIER because his sleep is so much better! He laughs, smiles and giggles all the time. He is such a joy to be with. And he's growing more and more independent.</p> <p>Good luck!! It's hard but for us, it was worth it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-293560 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:21:18 +0000 Amandaly 293560@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Clementine: I would LOVE to know how things are going now...I am on day 4 of sleep training and my 10 month old is definitely not the same happy independent baby and it's breaking my heart. He's taking MUCH shorter naps and crying when I lay him down now and he is smiling a lot less. I too hope it's a phase, but if not, I may abandon this whole thing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251707 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:25:58 +0000 Clementine 251707@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Bee: thank you, good to know! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251703 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:24:58 +0000 Mrs. Bee 251703@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Clementine: you may have to even reduce the awake intervals during sleep training because they are extra tired. charlie definitely was. and then bump up the awake intervals once they are more alert, consistently sleeping well, and well rested. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251699 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:21:23 +0000 Clementine 251699@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Bee: Thanks, Mrs. Bee! Good to know that they can still be very tired when they are sleep training even though they are getting more sleep. He def seems more out of it and less alert as if he's still tired. I'll keep everyone posted! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251660 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:52:15 +0000 Mrs. Bee 251660@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>i think he may just be extra tired, as babies are extra tired during sleep training even though they are getting more sleep. i'm sure he will be your happy little man again soon.</p> <p>my mom didn't believe in cio, but after she saw what an amazing sleeper charlie became, she was a total believer. same with our nanny who cried when we were sleep training him. now our nanny is 100% pro-cio and even offered to sleep train her nephew, because he has always been and still is a horrible sleeper (at 3).</p> <p>i think it will get better. stay strong! :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251657 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:49:11 +0000 Clementine 251657@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: thanks for the reassurement. he def sleeping so much better, so I'm hoping this is just a phase. sigh.. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251652 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:47:43 +0000 Clementine 251652@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@regberadaisy: maybe it's just an adjustment period plus having nap training prob doesn't help. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251651 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:47:18 +0000 Clementine 251651@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrsbells: I hope this is a phase since he's actually sleeping so well with this method. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251627 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:27:48 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 251627@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't even want to say this because I don't want to fuel ant concerns...it's likely that your little one is just working on other skills right now. However, the anti-CIO crowd would say that CIO teaches babies that they can't rely on their caregivers, only theirselves and that this can lead to stress and depression in the child.</p> <p>Having said that and having two kids, I now know that different kids' temperaments really affect their reaction to CIO. For example with Lala, we really would have been breaking her spirit if we did CIO. She would cry until she threw u, wouldn't make eye contact afterward, etc. we elected not to CIO. With M, I think she could easily tolerate it without any changes to her disposition, but we learned so many techniques to avoid CIO with Lala that we didn't need CIO with M :)</p> <p>But I've been reading you and it doesn't seem that your LO had tooany issues with CIO, so I wouldn't worry too much! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251626 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:27:00 +0000 regberadaisy 251626@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Clementine: oh no!!! Is anything else affecting him that might be the cause?<br /> That sounds so heartbreaking :( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251625 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:25:40 +0000 Mrsbells 251625@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm not an expert but I think CIO works for some but not all children. If it seems to be affect your baby's personality then maybe its not for him? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/hes-no-longer-laughing-or-smiling#post-251614 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:16:32 +0000 Clementine 251614@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My LO is doing really well on Day 8 of Sleep Training. Right now, we're trying to get my MIL who watches him to get on board with nap training, but this has been difficult since she doesn't like to really listen to me (that's another story).</p> <p>Anyways, ever since sleep training both me, my husband, and my MIL noticed that LO is no longer smiling or laughing lately. He used to smile and laugh all the time esp. in the mornings. Now I can barely get a 1/2 smile. </p> <p>I know this sounds crazy, but do you think CIO has affected his personality. My MIL thinks we're crushing his spirit. If I didn't seen such a drastic decline to his personality, I wouldn't think twice about her comment. Sigh....I'm being crazy, right?! </p>