https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 01 May 2026 22:20:37 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-165534 Tue, 22 May 2012 16:46:27 +0000 daniellemybelle 165534@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>A couple others have mentioned it, but I watch a lot of Supernanny, haha, and she suggests gradually leaving the room. So the first time you could stay next to him and soothe him until he falls asleep. The second time back a little farther away, and keep backing farther away each wake-up until you are at the door, and then out the door. It would probably take being in his room with him for a whole night, but at least on the show it seems to keep things from getting hysterical, because at least they know you are there with them. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-165387 Tue, 22 May 2012 14:20:56 +0000 banana 165387@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I tried CIO once and decided it just wasn't for us. I just think kids go through developmental stages and it'll pass...just have to be patient, like @andrea said. If he's super hysterical, I would just see how the week goes, especially since he may be sick. :( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-165091 Tue, 22 May 2012 09:05:02 +0000 mrs. wagon 165091@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@brownie: wonder weeks... very interesting!!!! never heard of it!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-165090 Tue, 22 May 2012 09:04:44 +0000 mrs. wagon 165090@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@sandy: STTN since 2 months?? I don't feel bad for you!! No just kidding ;) Sleep is by far the most stressful thing in terms of taking care of your newborn, i think... closely followed by eating! :) Honestly Wagon Jr. never went through any major sleep regression when he went through developmental changes. Only when he was sick. But I remember Charlie Bee went through some regression during those times when he was learning to crawl and walk. Wagon Jr.'s regressions were only around illness and travel, and we were able to get him back on track within a day or two. I cannot complain! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-165078 Tue, 22 May 2012 08:56:01 +0000 littlebug 165078@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@baby98765: @brownie: I've never heard the term wonder weeks. Really interesting. From what I've read/heard, it seems to make sense. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-165007 Tue, 22 May 2012 07:07:42 +0000 Andrea 165007@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@baby98765: If he is hysterical, then I would stop CIO, personally. I tried it a few times with my daughter and she would get so upset so I knew CIO was not for us. We also had issues when she learned how to pull herself up to stand but it lasted 2 weeks max and she was back to sleeping all night. I would try to be patient while he is going through this developmental milestone and getting over his little bit of a cold. If he was a good sleeper to begin with, hopefully he will fall back into on his own once he is feeling better. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164985 Tue, 22 May 2012 04:40:22 +0000 IcebergMom 164985@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I spent parts of a couple of nights on my daughters floor. To help her get used to her crib. Honestly it sounds like you might need to wait a week and try again. I had to do that. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164976 Mon, 21 May 2012 23:56:53 +0000 Boogs 164976@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We did CIO and with our LO we couldn't go in to soothe, it was basically like starting all over again. Can you maybe try not going in? A lot of the literature also says not to train when they are sick, so maybe wait until LO appears to be feeling better? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164966 Mon, 21 May 2012 23:27:51 +0000 Red 164966@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I've learned not to sleep-train my LO when she is even slightly ill. I think all that crying adds stress to their body and exacerbates their illness and does not make for a good experience. I usually suffer through 'til LO is all better and then sleep-train her.</p> <p>If I'm confident that she's not ill, I'll let her cry 'til she falls asleep. The most recent time, she cried off and on for almost 3 hours. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164952 Mon, 21 May 2012 23:01:50 +0000 sandy 164952@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrs. wagon: @baby98765: This thread scares me! I thought once they are sleep trained that the hardest part was done. LO is 6 months and had been STTN since about 2 months...but you're telling me she is going to go through a major regression when she learns to pull up stading and I will have to CIO...I'm so scared... :( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164941 Mon, 21 May 2012 22:43:46 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 164941@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Ok, so maybe I'm crazy, but a number of these methods where you go in and soothe are an intermittent reward system which essentially reinforces the crying behavior. </p> <p>When we tried CIO w/ Lala she would get hysterical and throw up and bite her crib. We ultimately decided that we would not use CIO with her... and at 2 she sleeps through the night. (Finally!) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164936 Mon, 21 May 2012 22:28:34 +0000 brownie 164936@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Baby Whisperer has some supported crying techniques (we haven't done them for the most part). This one where were just lay him back down is a Super Nanny type technique. I started reading the no-cry sleep solution and it had some good ideas too. </p> <p>Since he is sick, I would see if there is some way for him to sleep more vertically. We would put pillows under the mattress to elevate his head. </p> <p>Wonder weeks typically start a few weeks early and last a few weeks. If that is the case, I would be a little more gentle because his mind is just racing. He can't settle it down. Also, this wonder week seems to be one that nightmares can appear in. </p> <p>45 minute waking is typically a sleep cycle issue (he can't go back to sleep). 30 minutes is typically a sign of pain. </p> <p>I think that CIO isn't working right now. So, I would recommend taking a break and getting the sleep. and try again after the WW and the sickness. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164905 Mon, 21 May 2012 21:26:32 +0000 baby98765 164905@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@brownie: this is really interesting. I had never heard of Wonder Weeks and just googled it. He could be in Wonder Week 37 (though it would be a few weeks early). Mine's crying accelerates too so maybe that means cry it out is not going to work for us. I just don't know what other method to try! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164894 Mon, 21 May 2012 21:19:02 +0000 brownie 164894@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I can't let my baby scream that long. 1 hour is pretty much my max for continued crying. My son accelerates with his crying which means that he isn't soothing himself to sleep. </p> <p>It could also be a Wonder Week. We are in the middle of WW55 and it is a doozy for us. Sleep is the hardest thing for us right now. He cries and cries and it never gets any better. So, we have to try something else. Right now my husband sits with him and every time he gets up he just puts him right now. No speaking, not attention just plop down on the bed. It takes a while but there is no crying. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164887 Mon, 21 May 2012 21:11:03 +0000 baby98765 164887@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@IcebergMom: @mrs. wagon: yes, he is pulling himself up in his crib. The second we put him down he flips over and pulls himself up to standing. So he ends up crying standing up. He also is crawling and pulling himself up in his sleep and then I think waking up on his feet and starting to cry. So I know why he is waking up but I don't know why he will not sooth himself back to sleep, except that he wants to hang out with us all of a sudden. Flattering, but I see enough of him all day. :)</p> <p>I just don't know when CIO is too intense, like when he is hysterical and does those choking/coughing/hyperventilating sounds because he is putting every bit of effort into screaming, should I still be waiting it out? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164883 Mon, 21 May 2012 21:01:25 +0000 mrs. wagon 164883@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@baby98765: has he started doing anything new lately? crawling or pulling up? sometimes developmental milestones make their minds go a mile a minute. </p> <p>Have you tried sitting by his crib and slowly going further and further away until you're out the door? We did that a couple of times. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164882 Mon, 21 May 2012 21:01:14 +0000 IcebergMom 164882@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Maybe you should try not going in so often? We let stretches of crying go 20 minutes without going to the baby. And even then I would just peer around the corner to sniff the air for poopy diapers (seriously!) and make sure baby was lying down. I'd only touch/go to the baby if she was sitting up or if the crying was interrupting her breathing. (That sounds so mean, I know!) After an hour I'd go in for full-on reassurance/nursing, etc. </p> <p>After a week and a half (at 9 months) CIO worked for us. It didn't work at all at 8 months. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164875 Mon, 21 May 2012 20:55:25 +0000 baby98765 164875@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I guess it's a possibility but the runny nose just started today. He's been doing this since last weekend. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164871 Mon, 21 May 2012 20:50:54 +0000 Andrea 164871@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am also wondering if the cold is making things worse. Perhaps wait and see what happens once he is healthy again? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164870 Mon, 21 May 2012 20:49:50 +0000 baby98765 164870@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>No, I mean it's like a slight runny nose that I've wiped maybe three times today. No fever, no cough. He's been fine all day. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164865 Mon, 21 May 2012 20:40:21 +0000 Rubies 164865@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Do you think his cold is making the whole CIO experience worse? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164862 Mon, 21 May 2012 20:39:22 +0000 baby98765 164862@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yes he has both a pacifier and a lovey. We have bedtime routine so he knows whats going on. He's been doing great with sleep and self-soothing until the past week. </p> <p>He stops crying as soon as we open the bedroom door and then starts again as soon as we turn away from the crib to walk out the door, 10x more intensely. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164857 Mon, 21 May 2012 20:34:50 +0000 mrs. wagon 164857@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>:( Ugh, I know the sleep regression can be horrible. I did the whole go in after 5 mins of crying and soothe to sleep... then next wakeup with crying, wait 10 mins, then 15 mins and 15 mins every time after that. </p> <p>Does your LO usually have self-soothing techniques? lovey, pacifier, sucking on fingers, etc? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/how-intense-should-cry-it-out-be#post-164856 Mon, 21 May 2012 20:32:01 +0000 baby98765 164856@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>How intense should the cries be during Cry it Out? I'm at a loss. We've tried CIO gently - going in every 5-10 minutes to reassure - but it just makes the next 10 minutes more hysterical. Basically my 8 month old has been screaming for 3 hours. He's fallen asleep twice for about 30-45 minutes each but then wakes up screaming. We've given him some tylenol because he has a slight cold, he is not teething at the moment, there is nothing wrong with him, he just wants us to hold him. He is FREAKING out though and just getting louder and more hysterical, not calming himself at all. I don't know how crazy to let him get. </p> <p>I should add that this is a recent development this week. He's been sleeping through the night since he was 2 months old. HELP! </p>