https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sun, 12 Apr 2026 18:47:23 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245390 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 16:20:10 +0000 Mrs. Pickle 245390@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jessicamcb wow, that is terrible. I'm glad your sister and mother were spared. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245353 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 16:00:39 +0000 JessicaMcB 245353@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm coming from a weird place with my point of view, but I definitely think this should be considered a criminal action.</p> <p>My biological father was a closeted homosexual who frequented male prostitutes while he was married to my mother without her knowledge (obviously). When I was ten he disapeered one day and my mother sent the police looking for him the whole nine yards. A month later my mother received a phone call from the NFLD provincial health authority telling her my father had full-blown AIDS and she had been exposed for the last 7 or so years. He ran away because he didn't want to face up to the fact that he potentially had served my mother and little sister (who was six) a death sentence as he had been aware of his status for YEARS and had couldn't hide being full-blown.</p> <p>The weeks and months that followed while we waited to see if they had HIV were the worst of our lives. By some miracle my mother and sister were spared HIV, but that piece of garbage that fathered me should've gone to prison in my opinion- at the very least he was criminally negligent, at the most he's abhorrently sociopathic and shouldn't be allowed out in society.</p> <p>So overall, any man or woman who does not disclose their status to people they are putting at risk deserve the full measure of the law- they're ruining people's lives and aren't worth the air they breathe. Anyone who disagrees should have to watch a six year old little girl or dedicated wife and mother wonder if she's going to live or die based on someone else's selfishness for six months- I sincerely doubt you'd feel bad for the perpetrators anymore. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245342 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:55:49 +0000 MsLipGloss 245342@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrBee: Meh - it doesn't really bother me . . . I would imagine that most t.v. shows that portray a profession don't (or can't - for boredom's sake!) portray it accurately. :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245339 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:52:59 +0000 mrbee 245339@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MsLipGloss: If Jack McCoy had been the prosecutor, then he surely would have gone for the death penalty! So maybe 25 years was a gift after all!</p> <p>Sorry, I know most lawyers hate L&amp;O. I should ease up on the Dick Wolf references! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245335 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:50:06 +0000 MsLipGloss 245335@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrBee: 25 years does seem excessive . . . I don't know anything about Iowa law though, and whether or not the sentencing guidelines are negotiable (25 years may have been the minimum for that particular offense). On the other hand, based on my limited knowledge, it is equally as possible that the attorney dropped the ball. </p> <p>So, in this case, I will defer to Dick Wolf! :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245321 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:44:12 +0000 Modern Daisy 245321@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think what he did should be illegal and he should be punished for it. And I agree that it seems like he's trying to redirect attention and look like a victim. The second I read (towards the end) that they had unprotected oral sex I was like wtf why are we feeling bad for him at all?! The article keeps repeating that a condom was used, which is a little more forgivable, but you have to read to the end to see that they had unprotected oral sex! I mean can you imagine? I'd want to lock him up too if he did that to me! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245313 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:41:02 +0000 mrbee 245313@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MsLipGloss: Makes sense!</p> <p>I still think that 25 years is a lot of prison time in this case. But my knowledge of the law is based on what Dick Wolf taught me through 20 seasons of Law &amp; Order, so I defer to you! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245298 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:34:50 +0000 ladyfingers 245298@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I thought this was illegal? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245297 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:34:06 +0000 MsLipGloss 245297@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrBee: No worries! Sometimes the mechanics don't seem to make much sense . . . but to make (a slightly exaggerated) comparison, even if an intended murder victim survives, the defendant is still on the hook for his actions (, i.e., the victim's survival changes the name of the charge, but has no impact on the guilt/innocence of the defendant). </p> <p>And I *puffyheart* the word besmirch . . . it's right up there with piggery for me! :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245292 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:27:38 +0000 mrbee 245292@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MsLipGloss: I agree that what he did was very wrong. And you're totally right - I don't know nearly enough of the real facts to make a judgment call!</p> <p>At the end of the day though, the other guy (Adam) didn't get HIV. I guess I just figured that a good attorney could have gotten him out of jail time (or at least, less than 25 years). But you're right, I have no real idea of how the attorney did in court.</p> <p>Sorry, didn't mean to besmirch the attorney involved! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245262 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:17:10 +0000 MsLipGloss 245262@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yeah . . . so, so, so many guilty plea appeals are routinely topped off with an *ineffective assistance of counsel* argument that is entirely baseless. In this case, (it appears that) intent can be implied through (at least) his actions of participating in unprotected oral sex. His claims about counsel are a clever way to redirect the attention from his actions to another person's actions . . . and to make him appear to be a victim as well. </p> <p>Even though I am a civil attorney, don't even get me started on clients that lie . . . and they all lie . . . even if it just not telling you things because they think what they are leaving out is immaterial or because they are worried about what you will think about them. </p> <p>It is really hard to make a judgment call without knowing all the *real* facts. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245239 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:07:04 +0000 mrbee 245239@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MsLipGloss: Was going mostly off these two snippets about his old attorney?</p> <p>* Rhoades ended up pleading guilty. "I entered a guilty plea based on the advice of my attorney," he says. "I really didn't understand the law; I didn't understand it enough to know I shouldn't plead guilty."</p> <p>* Rhoades' ... new lawyer, Scott Schoettes with Lambda Legal, has appealed his conviction to the Iowa Supreme Court. Schoettes says ... Rhoades' former attorney never explained to him that the statute requires proof that an HIV-positive person intentionally tried to infect the victim. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245230 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:05:30 +0000 anonysquire 245230@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>How horrible. He should be charged with attempted murder. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245215 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:00:46 +0000 MsLipGloss 245215@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrBee: what makes you say the attorney was awful? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245202 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:56:27 +0000 mrbee 245202@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>It sounds like a terrible situation, but dang - that guy sure had an awful lawyer. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245196 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:54:22 +0000 MamaMoose 245196@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This was a L&amp;O SVU that covered this topic so I've thought about it before. And yes, I think it should be criminalized. You are knowingly putting someone else's life at risk. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245195 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:53:58 +0000 MsLipGloss 245195@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Well, there are a lot of similar actions that are illegal, i.e., biological warfare, assault (with a deadly weapon), attempted murder (both with intent (premeditated) and without intent (manslaughter)), . . . I could go on. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245180 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:43:02 +0000 chopsuey 245180@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Scary! Not sure how I feel about it.. He did put his partner's life in danger by not disclosing that he's HIV positive... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/imprisoned-for-not-disclosing-hiv-status#post-245178 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:39:20 +0000 Mrsbells 245178@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I know many of you are trying to avoid CNN due to the olympic spoilers so I'll give a quick summary. Basically he was receiving treatment for HIV but didnt disclose it to his sexual partner and he got arrested and sentenced to jail.<br /> Should it be criminalized?</p> <p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/02/health/criminalizing-hiv/index.html?hpt=hp_c2" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/02/health/criminalizing-hiv/index.html?hpt=hp_c2</a> </p>