https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sat, 23 May 2026 04:25:14 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362808 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:26:53 +0000 pl0508 362808@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@photojane: amen! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362763 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:06:54 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 362763@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Modern Daisy: Hey, I think I found the allegations you are talking about:<br /> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/06/voter-fraud-florida_n_1944744.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/06/voter-fraud-florida_n_1944744.html</a></p> <p>These are allegations made by the Republican party in Florida and have not been substantiated... (but who knows, maybe they will).</p> <p>Here's another good link:<br /> <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Voter-fraud-complaint-filed-against-Fla-Democrats-3923654.php#ixzz28WxuT97v" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Voter-fraud-complaint-filed-against-Fla-Democrats-3923654.php#ixzz28WxuT97v</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362728 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:51:00 +0000 Maysprout 362728@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I live in PA where a voter ID law was passed. The rules have been softened a bit for this election but to try and shove a new rule like that through so close to an election is disenfranchising to a lot of voters. I never heard a good argument for why it was so necessary so my guess it was skeezy politics. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362719 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:45:52 +0000 luckypenny 362719@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So alarmed. It's so pathetic. I didn't know the thing about Romney boy owning polling machines - WTF?! No idea how that's legal/ethically allowed</p> <p>I've never heard news stories of Dems doing stuff like this. @yoursilverlining: so true. bc majority of young people know GOP policies are stuck in the 50's! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362709 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:41:20 +0000 Mrsbells 362709@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@meredithNYC: Yeah I agree, I prefer to only trust certain sites that are well known for accurate reporting and will update with corrections if necessary.</p> <p>Yea I agree with @Mrs. Jacks: that saying 'everyone does it" is a false equivalency because so far nothing the democrats have done even compares to what the republicans are doing </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362650 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:16:05 +0000 Modern Daisy 362650@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@caffeinated: I saw it on NBC! I was totally shocked that they mentioned it since I feel as though they usually lean to the left! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362646 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:13:50 +0000 Freckles 362646@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am not even from the US, but am following this election closely. Alarmed, indeed.</p> <p>@Modern Daisy: I'm curious as to what news outlet stated this. A while back Republicans accused Obama of taking away the voting rights of military voters, when what he was trying to do was extend the same right to ALL Ohioans. The Republicans attacked this because it would allow low-income earners to vote on days when they aren't working. (<a href="http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/07/the-dishonest-attack-on-obamas-military-voting-lawsuit/" rel="nofollow">http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/07/the-dishonest-attack-on-obamas-military-voting-lawsuit/</a>) Unfortunately, the truth always comes out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362601 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:50:10 +0000 Modern Daisy 362601@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: I haven't looked for a link, but I saw it on the news yesterday that both parties were involved in voter fraud in FL </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362541 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:30:29 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 362541@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Modern Daisy: That is something called a "false equivalency" ie "everyone does it". Do you have links to instances of Democrats doing it? Because if you do, I know there would be many people including myself that would be very vocal in condemning such actions. (And I genuinely want to know if I missed something!) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362533 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:27:56 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 362533@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@kjwinter: We need to be very careful about the facts. Those signs were put up by an undisclosed "Private Family Foundation", not a party... and they are being removed by Clear Channel now and being replaced by signs encouraging people to vote.</p> <p>Clear Channel donated 10 signs in response to these billboards that say, "Voting is a right. Not a Crime".</p> <p>I just think we should report accurately lest giving fuel to those who might disagree!</p> <p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/21/ohio-voter-fraud-billboards_n_1998359.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/21/ohio-voter-fraud-billboards_n_1998359.html</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362523 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:23:50 +0000 Modern Daisy 362523@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>It's being done by both republicans and democarats! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362499 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:06:16 +0000 meredithNYC 362499@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrsbells: Thanks for this! I also appreciate that you linked to legitimate news sources. I think we have to be careful/skeptical of some of the lesser-known online sources. Just my opinion. The internet is wonderful in many ways, but it can be tough to wade through the overwhelming amount of info (a LOT of it partisan) out there. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362488 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:01:57 +0000 yoursilverlining 362488@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrsbells: This article does a nice job of breaking down the “why” in an easy an easy to read/understand format:</p> <p><a href="http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/base-turnout-strategy-may-be-too-narrow-for-romney/" rel="nofollow">http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/base-turnout-strategy-may-be-too-narrow-for-romney/</a></p> <p>As the GOP continues to move further to the right; its base narrows. If non-white (and young white) voters continue to increase turnout as they’ve done since 2004; Democrats are more likely to win national elections. If you want to win national elections without broadening your base; you have to make sure that the people most likely to vote en masse against you don’t vote. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362475 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:56:17 +0000 MrsBrewer 362475@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@photojane: Agreed!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362470 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:54:29 +0000 photojane 362470@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>neither side is playing cleanly. politics are ugly. and that's the truth. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362451 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:47:53 +0000 Mrsbells 362451@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think this is sad that its happening in America which is supposed to be a model country for democracy.Why dont they focus on campaigning and winning people over rather than stopping people from voting </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362443 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:44:27 +0000 MrsBrewer 362443@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Sure this is alarming, but just because this became known, what else is going on that we don't even know about yet.......for either party....not just GOP </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362438 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:42:35 +0000 yoursilverlining 362438@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Alarming – very. Not surprising though; and no, voter restriction isn’t being perpetrated by both parties equally; not even close. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362435 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:41:22 +0000 lioneyes 362435@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>there are also billboards up in lower income neighborhoods warning of the consequences of voter fraud as 3 years in jail/$10K fines ("voter fraud" is not an actual thing) to disenfranchise people. these were paid for a by a republican super pac but clearchannel is not removing them. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362419 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:33:33 +0000 Mrsbells 362419@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@blackbird: Yeah this is what worries me. I hear people quoting Joseph stalin a lot lately "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything"</p> <p>Regardless of which party wins, I just want it to be a true win. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362413 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:27:59 +0000 Mrsbells 362413@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: Yeah I heard about how his son owns the voting machines. Also more worrying and alarming. Thanks for that information though.</p> <p>@Thehistoryofus: Hmmm but these letters are fakes not being sent out from any electoral office, unlike the republican letters that are being sent out by actual officials. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362402 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:18:57 +0000 blackbird 362402@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Honestly, the presidential elections are starting to feel more and more like a pre-determined conspiracy than an actual voting by the people. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362399 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:18:29 +0000 MediaNaranja 362399@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This is very concerning for me. I live in a state with new voter ID laws, and though I am registered to vote here, I have not yet changed my driver's license, car registration, etc, because we plan on moving out of this state in 9 months, it just didn't seem like it was worth it to me.</p> <p>Then I realized I would not be able to vote without this. Luckily, I am also a student at a large state university, so my student ID counts as a state-issued ID. But if I didn't, I would have to wait for hours at the DMV, pay for a new license, etc. I wouldn't be able to do this if I were elderly, or had to work several jobs. Or if I had lost my student ID, I would have to pay for a new one of those to be able to vote. How this is not considered a poll tax I have no idea.</p> <p>Especially when you look at the actual cases of voter fraud, it is something ridiculous, like 7 confirmed cases in the past 10 years or something. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362382 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:10:07 +0000 mrsjyw 362382@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Def alarming, not surprising -- on either side of using underhanded tactics to undermine the people of their born right.</p> <p>GO OUT AND VOTE! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362375 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:07:29 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 362375@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Mrs. Bells- the way to over come is to mobilize every voter you can find and put up large vote totals in your chosen side's column. There is the OFA calling tool which makes it really easy to do. I've pledged to make 10 calls to swing states each day for the next 10 days. It makes you feel like you are doing something productive.</p> <p>I don't believe in false equivalencies (both sides do it), but I think many republicans would tell you that the democrats perpetuate "voter fraud". Some states have found no instances of voter fraud and others have only found a few... So I don't think it's the same. But republicans will tell you that's why they are adamant about voter ID laws :)</p> <p>I think just as concerning is that one of the Romney boys has ownership of the electronic voting machines in Ohio. How on earth is that legal?!</p> <p>Anyway, rather than worrying, I say do what you can (whichever side you are on!)... so if you are concerned about this issue, you can log into your side's website and start making calls. At this point the calls are to people who are committed to your candidate. You are just making sure people who are already on your side are voting. I get lots of happy people on the other end of the line who are happy to hear from me! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362372 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:05:53 +0000 T.H.O.U. 362372@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I had heard about this story that was letters sent TO republicans telling them they were ineligible to vote based on citizenship. </p> <p><a href="http://www.politicususa.com/fbi-investigates-hoax-letters-voters-florida.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politicususa.com/fbi-investigates-hoax-letters-voters-florida.html</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362369 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:02:22 +0000 meredithNYC 362369@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Alarmed? Yes. Surprised? No. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362364 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:00:18 +0000 babynumber1 362364@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I heard about it this morning on the Today show. It is just being taken too far. This has been a dirty election all around. And don't get me started on Donald Trump... </p> <p>And I still don't know who I am going to vote for... Its like choosing between the lesser of two evils </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362357 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:57:55 +0000 Mrsbells 362357@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>It first happened in arizona<br /> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/us/arizona-spanish-election-ballot/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/us/arizona-spanish-election-ballot/index.html</a></p> <p>Then again the same mistake to in Ohio. They even gave wrong addresses for the some of the polling locations<br /> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/ohio-election-date-notices_n_2002726.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/ohio-election-date-notices_n_2002726.html</a></p> <p>Throwing out voter registration forms<br /> <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57535950/man-charged-after-tossing-voter-registration-forms-in-virginia/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57535950/man-charged-after-tossing-voter-registration-forms-in-virginia/</a></p> <p>And another link talking about everything they are doing to block votes<br /> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/opinion/blocking-the-vote.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/opinion/blocking-the-vote.html?_r=0</a></p> <p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/voter-registration-fraud-gop-backed-firm-spreads/story?id=17370445" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/voter-registration-fraud-gop-backed-firm-spreads/story?id=17370445</a></p> <p>Theres really a lot out there. if you google voter fraud or blocking the vote everything that comes up is about the republican party </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/is-anyone-else-alarmed#post-362347 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:51:25 +0000 Mrsbells 362347@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: Ok I will look for the articles </p>