https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 01 May 2026 02:51:16 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504413 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:21:01 +0000 Zbug 1504413@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@petunia354: it's so scary, and I'm sorry you have to deal with this! I usually refrain from commenting on these posts as well, because I doubt anyone will change their minds. I just have to hope, however, that the people not vaccinating their kids don't realize how dangerous their decision is. I don't want to believe that so many people are knowingly endangering the lives of other people. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504409 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:20:22 +0000 tlynne 1504409@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Wow...this is more of a hot-button topic than I ever realized. My son HAD to be fully vax'd according to our adoption ppw. Due to serious illness in infancy, as well as a reaction to a vaccine (PCV), he is now on an altered schedule (and will definitely not receive "optional" shots like Flu). His doctor will do his school booster shots one-at-a-time between the ages of 4 and 6 (which amounts to one shot every 6 months). Reactions to vaccines are not as rare as a lot of people believe, and they can be truly frightening and eye-opening.</p> <p>Celebrities like Cavallari make it harder to talk about legitimate concerns that a growing number of people have about vaccines and vaccine ingredients (and, quite frankly, I understand - and share - concerns about heavy metals in vaccines). It is also (for me) frightening and upsetting to see exactly how many shots can be given to an infant in one doctor's appointment (up to 7 per day). We would not know which vaccine caused my son's reaction had he received more than two that day (one in each thigh). It might not be popular to say so (and I am not trying to upset anyone), but I do believe in personal freedom. While I disagree with the profoundly ignorant reasons Cavallari gives for not vaccinating, I do respect that there are people who make educated decisions not to vaccinate their children. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504250 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:29:05 +0000 Happygal 1504250@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I have met two different crowds of anti-vaxers. One is the more crunchy side (which may coincide with being more liberal). They believe your body can heal itself, vaccines are poison, and so on. You can find Jesus children in this group.</p> <p>The other anti-vax group is very conservative. I know someone on FB who is really against big government and anything that is taking away his "rights." So he does not believe ANYONE should be able to tell him what to do about vaccines. There are also conservative Christians in this group. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504183 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:12:25 +0000 MamaMoose 1504183@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: Very interesting, thanks for posting! And I agree with you on the philosophical vs religious point. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504175 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:11:08 +0000 MamaMoose 1504175@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@looch: My day care was willing to tell me that there was one child in their school with an exemption and that the child was old enough that he/she would never overlap and be in the same class as my kid. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504155 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:05:38 +0000 lawbee11 1504155@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: @Mrs. Pen: @photojane: @MsLipGloss: I did some Googling and this is the only thing I could find. I have no idea how credible this site is, but it does reference some data from a project out of Yale Law School. </p> <p><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/01/liberals-finally-cleared-anti-vaccine-madness" rel="nofollow">http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/01/liberals-finally-cleared-anti-vaccine-madness</a></p> <p>ETA: I have absolutely no data to prove this, but I would assume those with philosophical objections to vaccines lean left and those with religious objections lean right so it's kinda split down the middle. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504089 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:55:22 +0000 MsLipGloss 1504089@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I have never met a conservative non-vaxer. They have all been (admittedly) liberal. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504079 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:53:22 +0000 looch 1504079@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So on the exemption, I live in a state with religious exemption, and the only signature that is required on that form is the parent or guardian.</p> <p>We're looking at options for preschool now, and i plan to ask the director if there are any children enrolled that have an exemption on file. I know she can't release the names, but I wonder how she would handle the question. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504076 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:52:30 +0000 photojane 1504076@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: I've had the same experience. I run in a pretty politically-conservative crowd, and we're all very strongly pro-vax. The people I know who are anti-vax tend to be more liberal. Of course there is always a little overlap. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1504064 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:48:25 +0000 Mrs. Pen 1504064@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: perhaps it's regional then - all the anti-vaxxers I know are pretty conservative. </p> <p>and yes, the map is referring to laws regarding school vaccinations. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503996 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:33:17 +0000 MamaMoose 1503996@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Pen: I fully admit that I'm not super versed in this topic, but I feel like everyone I've ever encountered who didn't vaccinate was really liberal, but perhaps that's just my experience and not the general norm. </p> <p>I'm assuming what this map really shows is the exemptions that are allowed in order to send your children to public schools. So no one is taking away the personal freedom, just saying that if you make the choice not to vaccinate, your children can not go to public schools where they may risk the health and safety of other children. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503959 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:25:49 +0000 Mrs. Pen 1503959@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MsLipGloss: oh really?? I thought it was. I thought you needed a something signed by a pastor/elder/priest etc.. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503953 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:25:14 +0000 MsLipGloss 1503953@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Pen: A religious exemption is not difficult to obtain . . . proof is (for the most part) not required. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503940 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:22:51 +0000 Mrs. Pen 1503940@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: it's a pretty conservative state though... why would it be surprising?</p> <p>I dunno - I know it's a hot topic... and I know it impacts public health, but I gotta say it makes me a little uncomfortable thinking of taking away personal right to choose to vaccinate. I know a lot of anti-vaxxers and I respect their decisions. I don't mind having playdates because I want to believe that my son will be protected by his vaccines in the event they happen to have been exposed or carrying a vaccine-preventable disease. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503930 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:21:03 +0000 Adira 1503930@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: Ha! I was just thinking that I was glad my state didn't allow philosophical exemptions! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503924 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:20:18 +0000 MamaMoose 1503924@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: It shocks me that your state would have that exemption actually! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503905 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:16:20 +0000 lawbee11 1503905@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@BlueWolverine: So sad :(</p> <p>@MamaMoose: At least your state doesn't allow philosophical like mine does! Eff. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503896 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:14:37 +0000 Mrs. Pen 1503896@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: lol!!! It's actually pretty hard to get religious exemption though - there are very few religions, to my knowledge, that refuse to vax. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503890 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:12:26 +0000 MamaMoose 1503890@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Pen: Aaannnnddd now I want to move to MS where medical is the only exemption. I'm not that far away! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503859 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:05:26 +0000 Anagram 1503859@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@BlueWolverine: One of my best friends (she's an adult, obviously) just finally got over pertussis in Texas! She hadn't had a booster as an adult (her kids are older and apparently 10 years ago or so, they didn't necessarily give pregnant women a booster). She was sick for 3+ months! She's had so many "thank you very much, anti-vaxers" FB posts since December. I feel so sorry for her. Apparently, she was coughing until she threw up on a regular basis, fever, etc. It's becoming a pretty big deal there. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503850 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:02:33 +0000 petunia354 1503850@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Zbug: I really didn't want to get involved in this thread but when I saw your comment I had to respond because I am in a similar situation and agree with you! Edited to say that I had an organ transplant as a kid and living with a compromised immune system is terrifying. Especially when other peoples personal decisions can directly affect my health. I'm sorry for your cousin and her baby :( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503847 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:01:06 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 1503847@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Did anyone catch her on Watch What Happens Live the other night? She repeated her no vaccine stance, but omitted autism as the reason. Instead she cited ear aches, allergies, and something else as to why not vaccinating was the right choice for her family. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503839 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:00:14 +0000 looch 1503839@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Pen: that's interesting, thanks for that! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503834 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:58:47 +0000 Mrs. Pen 1503834@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@looch: some states also allow "philosophical exemption", basically you just sign a slip that says you understand the risks of not vaccinating, get it notarized and submit it to the school. Not all states allow this though. Most are only for medical or religious exemption. Here is a map. </p> [attach=1597/14/n2ouy0.508x365.vaccine-exemption-map.jpg] https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503822 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:56:38 +0000 BlueWolverine 1503822@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I wonder if Kristin plans to take her kid to Austin, TX. An infant just died of pertussis. So incredibly sad and preventable.</p> <p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/news/travis-county-infant-dies-of-whooping-cough/nfGYZ/" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/news/travis-county-infant-dies-of-whooping-cough/nfGYZ/</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503791 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:49:13 +0000 snowjewelz 1503791@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@littlebug: Ugh, I don't know if that's better or worse! I kinda get it... This is more like an underground issue that doesn't always get "face time" and I guess KC is the the 1st (or most recent) face that popped up choosing the unpopular side and worse, citing crazy reasons for her choices. </p> <p>At least I'm glad those on HB are not basing their decisions the same way she is! I'm proud of the bees that do the subject due diligence before making decisions. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503771 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:43:17 +0000 littlebug 1503771@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@snowjewelz: The thing is, I don't think people care about what SHE has to say. They are glomming on because she's a "celebrity" speaking out in support of their choice. It's just someone "famous" giving their position a voice. It wouldn't matter if it were Dr. Oz or if it were Dr. Dog the muppet. It's a voice. It's a face. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503748 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:34:53 +0000 lawbee11 1503748@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@looch: I have no idea. It doesn't seem like she should be able to. I think she plans to homeschool, though.</p> <p>I guess I shouldn't be surprised by any of this. I've followed her on Twitter for a couple of years and she's always been very vocal about her parenting choices. When breastfeeding didn't work out she gave her infant a "goat's milk concoction" because she said it's closer to breastmilk than formula. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503690 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:14:08 +0000 looch 1503690@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am really curious what she plans to do if and when her children need to enter school. Is it possible that she could claim a religious exemption if there's evidence that the reason she didn't vaccinate is because of the now debunked link to autism? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/kristin-cavallari-didnt-vaccinate-sonfears-autism/page/4#post-1503660 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:09:13 +0000 snowjewelz 1503660@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So suddenly she's the campaign manager for anti-vax? </p> <p>Unfortunately we live in a world where anyone can have an opinion about anything and social media will help spread your cause if you're famous enough! </p> <p>I think it's so crazy out of all people, she's starting this giant fight about vax for kids! I mean, I know the issue is long standing and she didn't start it, but I didn't realize how many people care about what she has to say?! </p>