https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Thu, 07 May 2026 06:35:23 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7/page/2#post-2493845 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 02:25:12 +0000 Boogs 2493845@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We learned through 12. I still have all mine memorized but my 12s are a little rusty. DH doesn't really remember any of his times tables. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7/page/2#post-2493301 Sun, 13 Mar 2016 07:30:14 +0000 meadow 2493301@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: +1 </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7/page/2#post-2492786 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:24:57 +0000 bluerose 2492786@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: I agree. Nice comparison. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7/page/2#post-2492588 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:45:45 +0000 Mrs. Lion 2492588@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Math fluency is just as important as reading fluency. We memorize math facts the same way we memorize "sight words". We want kids to see 5x7 and automatically know the answer without having to figure it out so that their brain doesn't have to do so much processing when they are doing harder math. For kids who aren't fluent, doing middle school or higher math is like trying to read without any automatic word recall. Imagine what it would be like if you had to stop and sound out every single word you read. You could probably do it, but it would be frustrating and inefficient. I am all for teaching the why in math, but fluency is extremely important and that means lots of practice and memorization. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7/page/2#post-2492487 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:44:47 +0000 meadow 2492487@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bluerose: yes....that is the "carry" factoring in :happy: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7/page/2#post-2492381 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:21:29 +0000 dragonsword 2492381@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>um, my mind is blown from all these math cheats. I feel like I would've done so much better in math when i was in school! ... I am in finance now though... so go figure. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7/page/2#post-2492277 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:04:58 +0000 Mrs.KMM 2492277@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Growing up, I learned my times tables through 12x.</p> <p>@Torchwood: I definitely had them memorized in 2nd grade (multiplication and division). I have distinct memories of doing timed math tests in Mrs. Kennel's class! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491823 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:44:22 +0000 808love 2491823@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So there is this doubling and half method with numbers that end in 5 multiplied by an even number. For example 35x18, first number is doubled and second one is halved. 70x9=630. I just learned that mental math way this year!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491743 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:09:00 +0000 snowjewelz 2491743@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yes we had to learn and memorize the 12 times table in school. I went to school in Asia. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491641 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:00:47 +0000 bluerose 2491641@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Also I take back a bit of what I said yesterday. I do believe breaking it down and understanding the method is essential, but I can't deny that memorizing is also an essential skill, especially when speed is necessary. So I would say memorizing up to 12s is super helpful but also understanding the how and why is necessary. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491620 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:47:08 +0000 T.H.O.U. 2491620@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We just learned 10x10 (in america) but i think the breakdowns described above is essentially teaching what "common core" math is labeled as doing. Its getting away from memorization (because really where do you stop them? Should we go up to 20x20). It teaches kids how to break it down. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491602 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:34:58 +0000 bluerose 2491602@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@meadow: I was just playing around with this trick and it is a bit interesting in some scenarios!<br /> 11*19=209 --&gt; when the digits added together equal higher than ten, you can't just stick it in the middle. Split the 19 but use the middle spot as a zero and then add the number to the first two digits. 109 plus 10 to the 10 is 209<br /> 11*29=319 --&gt; 209 plus 11 to the 20 is 319.<br /> A little complicated but still works. Sorry I'm rambling I just found it interesting haha. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491583 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:19:15 +0000 bluerose 2491583@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@meadow: ooh! That is neat! I didn't know that! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491551 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 07:50:12 +0000 pastemoo 2491551@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: we learned up to 12s. I still forget 7x pretty much everything, but I can do 12x11 by memory. It's pretty useful. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491539 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 07:31:50 +0000 Finfan 2491539@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We memorized through 10s in 4th grade, 12s in 5th, and 15s in 6th. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491531 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 07:15:05 +0000 Jass 2491531@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: it was hard but it also helped develop my interest in maths and made me good with numbers and I rarely use calculator. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491515 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 06:29:00 +0000 SweetCaroline 2491515@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@meadow: wow! Awesome. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491512 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 06:20:00 +0000 meadow 2491512@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Here's a fun trick for the 11s.....</p> <p>Everyone knows through 10 probably....but beyond 10....</p> <p>11 x 12 = 132 (split the digits of 12 and put their sum in the middle)</p> <p>11 x 25 = 275</p> <p>11 x 18 = 198 </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491487 Fri, 11 Mar 2016 00:42:36 +0000 meganmp 2491487@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We memorized them 3rd, and I expect my 4th graders to have them memorized. Fact fluency helps with harder math. Number sense and the ability to manipulate numbers in different ways is so important. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491454 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 23:23:50 +0000 Torchwood 2491454@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: I feel like that's more what I remember. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491425 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:52:44 +0000 808love 2491425@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>At our school we expect kids to have them completely memorized by the time they leave third grade. I teach fourth. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491421 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:48:57 +0000 travellingbee 2491421@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Torchwood: we don't even teach the concept of multiplication until 3rd. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491420 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:48:44 +0000 Jess1483 2491420@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Torchwood: We started them for sure. I didn't have any requirements for them on them, though. But my curriculum introduced it, and we had a year-round school, so I tacked them on at the end since the kids usually liked them. </p> <p>I don't know which they had to have memorized by what grade, though, since I only introduced it. I remember working on them in middle school, too. The school I was a behavior specialist in also started it in 2nd/3rd grade, though, so I don't think it was unusual. I think it's just something that lasts for a long time in school because kids master at a different pace. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491418 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:46:15 +0000 Torchwood 2491418@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Jess1483: 2nd grade? I moved a lot as a kid, and have a fairly clear memory of working on times tables at the house we lived in during 6th and 7th grade. And even if I'm wrong on that, I'm 100% sure my ex-stepdad helped me with it and my mom didn't meet him till after 2nd for sure. ETA- I was in advanced math classes by 8th, so surely I'm remembering wrong. But I honestly don't think it was earlier than 5th when I had to have them outright memorized. We learned them before that, but didn't memorize. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491417 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:44:59 +0000 mrbee 2491417@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Jass: Wow you have 17 x 13 memorized? 14 x 19 too? That's pretty amazing! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491415 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:38:55 +0000 bluerose 2491415@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I personally don't think memorizing the times tables is the way to go. Instead, the process of how to get to the answer is more beneficial. When I hear someone say 12 times 7, I automatically put the 7 below the 12 and multiply it out in my head (7*2 is 14, leave the 4, carry the 1, 7*1 is 7, plus the carried 1 is 8, 84 is the answer. I also love teaching to break the multiplication down like others have mentioned. By tens and what's left over, Etc. Memorizing is rough... It won't last forever. But truly understanding the method can stick. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491404 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:23:08 +0000 Jess1483 2491404@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I taught second grade and we went through 12X12 (but mastery wasn't expected until 3rd grade). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491401 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:19:02 +0000 808love 2491401@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So many ways to do a problem. This is what my class spends so much time discussing while correcting (before and after common core came along.) There is no longer one right and wrong with many of math explanations but we do talk about what is more efficient.<br /> Yet Another way to do 12 x7 ...12x5 (like the clock) plus 12x2= 60+24=84.<br /> Lol! I can do this all day. At least I'm good for something! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491386 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:11:57 +0000 Mrs. Lion 2491386@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: I love that you can give more than one example of the mental math :) That's the whole point! We all think of it differently ;) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/learning-your-12-times-tables-aka-what-is-12-times-7#post-2491385 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:11:26 +0000 jetsa 2491385@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: yes, as an engineer this is exactly how I do it. So easy 70+14=84 </p>