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<title>Hellobee Boards Topic: Line Eyes?</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2026 04:14:49 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>karenbme on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925166</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2021 23:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenbme</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@bees_knees:  I’m doing alright, my HCG continued dropping on it’s own and was down to 10 on Thursday, so hopefully will be 0 when we check next week. Idk what the path forward looks like for us. I want my daughter to have a sibling and I feel pressure because I’m older to keep pushing, but I also want to be gentle with myself and don’t want to have another loss in the middle of the holidays. DH’s company announced that their 2022 insurance plans will have “enhanced fertility coverage” so we’ll see what that means and if the rules there will be different from my coverage. But I also mentioned IVF at one of the appointments and the doctor started listing all the things that can go wrong there too so idk.
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<title>bees_knees on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925164</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2021 16:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bees_knees</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  Thinking of you. How are you doing?
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<title>bhbee on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925083</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2021 09:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bhbee</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  no easy outcome I’m sure but hoping this is the best way to move forward  :heart:  :heart:
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<title>karenbme on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925080</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenbme</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;So it looks like this is going to stay a pregnancy of unknown location in my chart. I was supposed to have an ultrasound yesterday, but my HCG yesterday morning had dropped from 900 on Monday to 300. We repeated bloodwork again today and it had dropped by another 50%. I’m sad for this pregnancy and for not having the answers that surgery might have given me. But I’m also glad that it’s ending without an EUE or methotrexate, which is the path we would have been on if the level hadn’t fallen today. I guess I shouldn’t count my chickens before they’re totally hatched, but avoiding that pain and stress on my body is really the best thing I could have hoped for at this point.
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<title>periwinklebee on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925060</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 21:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>periwinklebee</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:   :heart:  :heart:
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<title>karenbme on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925059</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenbme</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@periwinklebee:  Thanks, I have another ultrasound tomorrow. My HCG levels aren’t high enough for it to be conclusive yet, so I’m not sure that anything will change, but there’s a chance this whole thing might end.
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<title>periwinklebee on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925055</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 08:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>periwinklebee</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  just dropping by to say I'm thinking of you and hope you are holding up okay  :heart:
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<title>nwm on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925026</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2021 09:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>nwm</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  Thinking of you!!!  Hope you can do some good fall activities and help the time pass quickly this weekend.  :heart:
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<title>periwinklebee on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925024</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2021 08:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>periwinklebee</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:   :heart:  :heart: I hope the time goes by quickly and you get some resolution soon  :heart:
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<title>karenbme on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925023</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2021 08:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenbme</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@bees_knees:  Thanks for thinking of me. Ultimately, I'm fine. I was just really frustrated the other day. My HCG is rising quickly, which, without my history and the other symptoms, would be great but maybe means that they'll be able to see something at some point here and I'll be a candidate for surgery. I appreciate that most of the doctors are optimistic, but I feel sure that this is not an interuterine pregnancy. If I'm wrong, fantastic, but we should know for sure some time next week.
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<title>bees_knees on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes/page/2#post-2925020</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 22:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bees_knees</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  That sounds so frustrating. How are you today?
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<title>periwinklebee on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2925011</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 21:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>periwinklebee</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  I'm so sorry, it must be so frustrating to get conflicting medical advice, especially when there are different risks to weigh and no good data on any of them. I hope something clearer will show up with the monitoring soon  :heart:  :heart:
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<title>karenbme on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2925005</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenbme</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@bees_knees:  that’s the other thing—the advice depends on which doctor I’m talking to. The doctor who did the ultrasound on Monday told me that it was extremely unlikely based on my symptoms and the scan that it was interuterine and that if the level rose again we should do methotrexate this week, and then the doctor I spoke to yesterday was talking about how we can’t rule out interuterine pregnancy and I should keep monitoring so that we avoid ending a wanted pregnancy. FWIW I’m 99% sure it’s ectopic. It’s just a mess and no one can give me any concrete risk information about continued monitoring because so little is known about when and why EPS rupture.
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<title>bees_knees on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2925004</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bees_knees</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  so sorry ❤️ What is your dr recommending? That you wait and see, or take the meds?
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<title>periwinklebee on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2925002</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 10:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>periwinklebee</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  I'm really sorry  :heart: Really hope everything with insurance can work out.
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<title>karenbme on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924998</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenbme</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@periwinklebee:  Thanks for your message. The issue isn't that it needs to be coded as ectopic it's that recurrent ectopic alone doesn't put me into the &#34;subfertile&#34; bucket for insurance coverage. I would need to have a diagnosis of a blocked tube, have had one or both tubes removed or not been able to conceive for 12 months. In my case, I make embryos basically every time I try and my tubes look fine on the one test they're able to run, so surgery is my only option to get the coverage even though it's clear at this point that there is something wrong with me and my risk of further ectopic pregnancies is extremely high. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I can still wait and see if I'm a candidate for surgery further down the line, but I also don't want to push a dangerous situation unnecessarily, especially since my hormone levels are rising at a rate that doesn't rule out a healthy pregnancy (even though everything else including an ultrasound does). I also feel like the rules for who is a candidate for surgery have changed since my last ectopic pregnancy, which is frustrating because I expected to say surgery to the doctor yesterday and have her be like &#34;ok, this is where we need to be to do that&#34; and instead I got a hard no.
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<title>periwinklebee on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924993</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 21:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>periwinklebee</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm so sorry  :heart: fwiw, I find that many medical personnel are happy to put up the good fight to get insurance to pay, although obviously this isn't always the case and I've had experiences where the opposite is also true  :sad: . Have they said they can't code it as ectopic for insurance unless they see something on an ultrasound? Is there anyone in network who you could get a second opinion from who might be more helpful in finding a way to get the diagnosis you need for IVF coverage, without having to take on undue medical risk? I'm sorry, I know having to struggle with insurance to get the medical care you need just adds insult to injury  :crying:
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<title>Lahela017 on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924987</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Lahela017</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm so sorry you are going through this. I wish you had gotten better news. Thinking of you.  :heart:
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<title>karenbme on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924985</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 15:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenbme</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;So I had pretty much decided I wanted to do surgery and not methotrexate, but the doctor I spoke to about my levels today told me that they wouldn't do surgery until they could see something in my tube, because she's not confident that they would be able to see anything if they were to do surgery, and &#34;right side pain&#34; is not enough to know that it's in my right tube. Now my choices are methotrexate now, with the knowledge that it may work better than if I waited, or wait until it gets big enough to see on ultrasound, which may never happen and prolongs an emergency situation.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If it weren't for the IVF coverage I wouldn't be as upset as I am, but I'm just so over this cycle of trying and failing and putting myself through these grueling treatments and then losing months each time (I'm 37) and want to change SOMETHING. It's so unfair that I'm struggling to have a baby and literally putting my life in danger to do it and there's a way to dramatically cut that risk, but can't get access to fertility benefits because I am making embryos and the only test they can run won't show them what's wrong with my tubes.
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<title>bees_knees on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924984</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 15:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bees_knees</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  Sorry you have to make such a crappy, unfair decision. I think I'd choose surgery, but there is no &#34;right&#34; or &#34;wrong&#34; choice...we are here to support you either way! :heart:
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<title>poppygirl15 on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924982</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 14:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>poppygirl15</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  Ditto what the others said - I'd go surgical.
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<title>nwm on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924979</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 08:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>nwm</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I think my choice would likely be surgery as well in this situation.  Thinking of you  :heart:
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<title>erinbaderin on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924978</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 08:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>erinbaderin</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme: Personally, looking at the choices you've laid out here, I'd go surgical. Either way you're going to be down for a couple of days, it sounds like.
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<title>karenbme on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924977</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 00:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenbme</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Question for you ladies… the likelihood of an ectopic pregnancy is getting higher by the day. This will be my third. I was tested after the second and both my tubes *look* like they should work fine. I’m leaning towards trying IVF instead of rolling the dice with my eggs/tubes again since I’m on pregnancy #5 and only one baby so far. My insurance will cover IVF for tubal issues, but only if one or both my tubes are missing or blocked. Sometime this week I’m probably going to have to make a decision about medical or surgical management for the current pregnancy. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The medical treatment is a beast, always triggers a migraine that I’m not allowed to take anything for and requires me to wait at least 3 months before trying again. If it works in one dose I’ll feel awful for a day or two and then be fine, but it might take more and each subsequent dose gets worse. The surgery is laparoscopic with a 2-3 day recovery time before I’d be back to work, but will definitely resolve the issue in one shot and doesn’t have a need to wait to try again, and would mean that insurance would cover IVF in the future. What would you do?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ETA: we could probably afford IVF without insurance, but the insurance coverage would save us 5 figures.
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<title>bees_knees on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924966</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2021 11:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bees_knees</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  Thinking of you  :heart:
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<title>togetherthroughlife on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924961</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2021 19:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>togetherthroughlife</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  So sorry. I came back here to look for an update. Hoping for resolutions and healing for you. ❤️
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<title>karenbme on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924959</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2021 22:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>karenbme</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Lahela017:  @Chuckles:  @bhbee:  thanks, ladies.  At least this time it seemed like something was wrong early enough that I hadn’t gotten my hopes up. And I kind of expected a complicated road after everything it took to get my first.
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<title>bhbee on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924958</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2021 20:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bhbee</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme: I am so so sorry. It is brutal to go through that situation over and over whether chemical or ectopic or anything. Hoping for a quick resolution for you  :heart:
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<title>Chuckles on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924956</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2021 19:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Chuckles</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@karenbme:  oh no! I'm so sorry!
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<title>Lahela017 on "Line Eyes?"</title>
<link>https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/line-eyes#post-2924955</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2021 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Lahela017</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Oh no! I was really hoping for you.  :heart:
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