https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Wed, 10 Jun 2026 22:16:44 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training/page/2#post-1261399 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:23:35 +0000 JoJoGirl 1261399@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SleepyMonkey: Yeah we have used CIO for both. For bedtime at around 4.5 months and MOTN wakings at 5.5 months (she's 7 months now). After we did it for MOTN wakings she dropped one of her two feeds, so now is down to one feed, but that feed is all over the place in terms of time (usually 3am-5:30am, last night 2am)... I started the thread because I thought after doing CIO for MOTN wakings she'd magically stop waking to eat, but alas, no such luck. </p> <p>@blackbird: Ugh ugh ugh. I just want to sleep past 5am like ONE TIME. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training/page/2#post-1261370 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:19:41 +0000 SleepyMonkey 1261370@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: sorry. I may have misunderstood. So you CIO for putting her to sleep and also for motn wakings? We had to CIO for both, but separately because they were different. CIO for motn wakings was to teach her that she didn't need to eat in the motn. CIO at bedtime was to teach her that she could fall asleep on her own without nursing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training/page/2#post-1261238 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:00:17 +0000 blackbird 1261238@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>You know we sleep trained a couple months ago and E still wakes up sometimes. I had to feed her at 1:30 last night (FIVE OUNCES) and over the weekend, fed her at 5am. And I consider her sleep trained, fully. </p> <p>They do just throw you for a loop sometimes :( </p> <p>Sorry you had such a bad night. I know we had some awful nights a few weeks ago and used teething tablets and that seemed to be it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training/page/2#post-1261228 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:59:05 +0000 JoJoGirl 1261228@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@hilsy85: @Foodnerd81: @Smurfette: @twist: Thanks guys &lt;3 </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training/page/2#post-1261227 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:59:01 +0000 .twist. 1261227@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: I really hope it was just a fluke and tonight is better. :/ </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training/page/2#post-1261221 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:57:50 +0000 Smurfette 1261221@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: :sad: It is ok. We are trying to figure out things just as much as they are. Maybe just go with the feed overnight regardless of the time. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training/page/2#post-1261215 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:56:45 +0000 Foodnerd81 1261215@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: the worst feeling is when you think you out then through that for no reason. It sucks. C had a bad night too, though in a different way (just up whining a lot). Hopefully tonight goes better. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training/page/2#post-1261204 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:53:27 +0000 hilsy85 1261204@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: Aw sorry mama...Sleep is an ever changing target--what works one night might not work the next. h </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1261193 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:52:19 +0000 JoJoGirl 1261193@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Smurfette: Yep, sorry just went back to edit my post to add that. Fell right asleep. Hence me feeling so terrible we put her through that. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1261189 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:51:46 +0000 Smurfette 1261189@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: :sad: So hard..Sometimes they just have a bad night. Did she fall asleep after eating? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1261172 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:48:50 +0000 JoJoGirl 1261172@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SleepyMonkey: We already did CIO... this is a month later :(</p> <p>@scg00387: Yes, to EBF and WOH... And especially after last night, I think you're right about trusting my instincts about her being hungry.. ugh.</p> <p>@Smurfette: The worst we've had in a while. She woke up at 2am :( Hasn't done that for a month. She cried for 90 stinking mins (with a bunch of comfort checks/rocking, some Advil thinking it was teeth, and a bunch of crying without intervention).... finally I fed her at 3:30 because she was nowhere near falling asleep and she slept until 7am. :( I'm hoping it was just a bad night or she's in the middle of a growth spurt. Ugh. I feel terrible today. One IRL mom friend just told me this morning the hard-and-fast rules (like "they aren't hungry before x o'clock) just don't necessarily work for some kids. :( :( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1261146 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:43:57 +0000 Smurfette 1261146@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: How was last night? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1261103 Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:35:39 +0000 Anagram 1261103@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@scg00387: My baby always has an overnight poo, too. Sadly. So I also have to check for that. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260325 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:32:09 +0000 Foodnerd81 1260325@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@scg00387: yeah I know for her age it's not too bad, and now that she can fall back asleep a little easier, I'm at peace with it. But one wakeup instead of two would be lovely. :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260298 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:22:21 +0000 immabeetoo 1260298@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Foodnerd81: that sounds amazing for 4 months, you're comparing her to much older babies in this thread! Nursing in bed/side laying didn't work for us because he wouldn't fall back asleep, still won't, but if it works for you, do it.</p> <p>@.twist.: I wonder where that 12 lb comes from?? That sounds so insane to me, especially when some babies are born at 9 or 10 pounds! My LO still poops randomly in the middle of the night at 12m especially now that he's eating more solids, so I always check.</p> <p>@JoJoGirl: I think I've posted this on your sleep threads before, but my LO was pretty much the exact same way. The time that he woke was all over the place, not a habit, and he went back to sleep on his own after. I continued to feed him, and around 9.25 months he started to not nurse as strongly at the wake. I rocked him down instead of nursing one night when it seemed like he was eating less and less, and the next night he STTN and has (more or less) since then. If your gut tells you she is hungry, she probably is. 7 months doesn't seem that old to me to still eat in the MOTN, especially if you WOH and nurse (which I think you do?).</p> <p>ETA we also sleep trained at 5.5 months so he put himself to sleep instead of being rocked, with no cry sleep solution </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260265 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:07:51 +0000 SleepyMonkey 1260265@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>we sleep trained for MOTN wakings when she was 6.5 months. 45-minutes of crying (while DH and I argued in bed about whether to get her or not) and then she fell back asleep and that was it. next night, she sttn. after a sleep regression, we had to do it again. repeated the 45 mins of crying while DH and I argued, then next night, she sttn. my pedi told us that babies do not need to be fed in the motn after 2 months. and she had sttn a good number for times when she was around 3 months, so i knew she could do it and was just waking out of habit. i say give CIO a try if you are not against it...maybe a few days to see if it sticks. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260213 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 19:20:47 +0000 hilsy85 1260213@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Foodnerd81: at her age I think it's fine if she goes back to sleep in bed with you. I was doing that when lo was recently waking up really early but it didn't work--he ate and then was up! I think you just need to be prepared for her to get used to being awake t that hour. It's possible that he might just start sleeping through that time and wakeup at a normal hour or she might get used to getting up and getting a snuggle then. I know some mamas who are happy to keep that 5am nurse then snuggle til 630 thing for ages. For me, I never slept well once he was in bed with me, and he stopped falling back asleep, plus I felt like it threw off our whole schedule so I had to bite the bullet and stop. </p> <p>I do still do his first nurse of the day in bed tho! Anything to be horizontal 15 more minute lol. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260172 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:25:58 +0000 Kemma 1260172@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Foodnerd81: I grabbed my girl for a squeezy cuddle straight after her morning feed and had the same problem... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260166 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:21:50 +0000 .twist. 1260166@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Foodnerd81: ha! Sometimes I lift him over my head and then get scared he'll puke in my face. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260157 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:10:29 +0000 Foodnerd81 1260157@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@.twist.: aw who can sleep when their little baby is smiling and cooing at them? Unfortunately C wants to be entertained if she's not sleeping. Dh was playing superman this morning a little too soon after she ate this morning... Oops. :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260150 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:04:29 +0000 .twist. 1260150@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Foodnerd81: I used to bring L to bed for the last hour or hour and a half of the morning. It worked great for a while, but now, he just lays there and stares at me and coos and smiles and doesn't fall asleep from nursing any more. :/</p> <p>Eta: so, now I just feed him at 4:30 or 5 or whenever he wakes up and put him back in his crib. He usually doesn't cry and I can sleep while he either a. Sleeps or b. talks to himself. Lol </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260145 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:58:21 +0000 Foodnerd81 1260145@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't have any advice but I'm watching this carefully since I see us heading down the same path-- C falls asleep well on her own now, but the MOTN are all over the place. Right now, at 4 months, my threshold for feeding her is 1, or midnight if she is really losing it. Unfortunately, going in and rocking, patting, etc, doesn't do anything. She knows what she wants, and it's my boob. Yet some times she can go from 7 to 5 am without eating or waking. Right now we are on a 1 or 2, usually 2, wake up routine, which I can deal with for now but I've been hoping she would eventually move to something like a 4 am feed-- late enough that we both got a good stretch of sleep, but early enough that we can both go back to sleep. </p> <p>For the late feeds (like 5-6), how do people who have sleep trained feel about bringing baby into your bed and nursing laying down to help keep them asleep? I can't decide if it's smart, so we can all get an extra hour or two of sleep, or building even more bad habits?</p> <p>Speaking of, time to wake my napping baby :( She took almost an hour to fall asleep, but wasn't crying, so I left her, but now we are getting dangerously close to bed time. These babies. Always switching things up on us. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1260110 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:19:17 +0000 .twist. 1260110@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@NovBaby1112: I just want to point out that the professionals I talked to would never have condoned sleep training at 2 months whether the baby was 12lbs or not. Only because I feel like that comment was directed towards my earlier comment. </p> <p>@hilsy85: I think this is exactly what is happening with us too and I am so not prepared to CIO again! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1259537 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 14:01:24 +0000 hilsy85 1259537@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: I was afraid to do CIO at 5am because I was scared that he just wouldn't go back to sleep and we would be up for the day at 530/545! And that did happen quite a few times, and he started regularly waking up at 530 until last week (I posted about it here: <a href="http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/early-wakings-when-did-they-end)" rel="nofollow">http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/early-wakings-when-did-they-end)</a>. The whole wait it out thing didn't work until we tried it again last week--before that he would just cry on and off until I fed him. @NovBaby1112: ugh it's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place! Choosing between two evils, lol. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1259460 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:46:07 +0000 Kemma 1259460@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: my LO is still having a night feed at almost fourteen months but she also wakes for comfort and we part-time bedshare. Some nights she wakes and I don't feed her but do get in to bed with her.</p> <p>There is a lot of development that goes on between six and twelve months so it makes sense to me that they might need extra calories to fuel that growth, the night feeds are also great for supply! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1259379 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:24:25 +0000 NovBaby1112 1259379@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: yea, the tricky part is going to be if she starts to sleep until like 5:30ish and waking up for a feed, like my LO did. Usually by that time, they are well rested enough (from sleeping from like 7-5:30) that CIO isnt going to work. We dealt with that for a few weeks. So, I'm not sure what's worse- dealing with 1 feed around 4am then at least sleeping for a few more hours, or STTN but starting your day at 5:30! lol </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1259371 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:22:51 +0000 Anagram 1259371@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@heartonastring: agree with the overnight feeds thing. It totally depends on the baby, but my Pediatrician is really against stopping a baby's night feeds before 6 months (regardless of weight) and says many babies still need to eat once up to 9-12 months of age.</p> <p>Some babies stop eating themselves, and that's okay. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1259362 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:19:47 +0000 JoJoGirl 1259362@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@NovBaby1112: Yeah that's basically where we are (after sleep training one feed between 3-5:30am). She will *sometimes* go back to sleep after eating as late as 5:30, but not always. I've never let her cry after say 4am cause I always assume she is hungry, but I suppose we could try that for a couple of days and see what happens. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1259355 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:17:08 +0000 NovBaby1112 1259355@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Ok, so I know everyone is going to have different opinions on the matter- but I think only you as her mom will be able to tell if she is waking up out of habit or if she is truly hungry. </p> <p>I will say that for my LO, she was waking up 1-2 times a night for awhile after we sleep trained at 6.5 months. Then for the longest time it was just once a night, between 3-5:30am. Gradually it started getting later and later and she started STTN, but then she was getting UP for the day around 5:30 because she was not falling back asleep after that 5:30am feed- this was around 11 months. So then I figured it was time to end that feed, and knew that at 11 months she should be able to go 11-12 hrs at night. So gradually it has been a process, but now she is waking up around 6-6:30 to eat and is up for the day then. </p> <p>You could always try to let her cry for a bit and see what happens, say 10-20 minutes. If she is still crying after that time, she is prob hungry. I would much rather wake up and feed her so she will go back to sleep, than get up early like my LO did. </p> <p>@heartonastring: I have to agree with you about CIO and the whole 12 hours things. My LO was 12 pounds at like 2 months old, and there is no way she could have slept 12 hours straight without needing to eat. I cannot even go that long- i either get thirsty or hungry. I really dislike when experts or doctors make blanket statments about what your baby "should" be able to do. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/motn-wakings-post-sleep-training#post-1259337 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:11:33 +0000 Adira 1259337@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoJoGirl: I think it'll depend on your baby! Xander ALWAYS woke up for his dreamfeeds (so I guess they weren't really dreamfeeds, haha), but as soon as I popped a boob in his mouth, he didn't seem to mind. And by the time he was done, he was either back asleep or drowsy enough that when I put him back in his crib, he fell asleep on his own. But if your LO wakes up and then screams her head off and takes an hour of you trying to get her back to sleep, it might not be worth it! Try it on a weekend, just in case!! </p>