https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 01 May 2026 06:51:27 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula/page/2#post-242329 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:13:25 +0000 Mrs. Sunglasses 242329@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Well said @mrs. wagon I agree! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula/page/2#post-242327 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:12:02 +0000 mrs. wagon 242327@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Very quickly scanning over all of this and just wanted to chime in my opinion, what I would do if I were in your position...</p> <p>I would go to formula, if baby tolerated that well. I am a firm believer in happy mommy, happy baby... and for me, strict diet limitations would be just another complicated thing to pile on top of being a new mom. You got him this far and that's tough enough!! </p> <p>I knew a first time mom whose baby was in our first playgroup and he was sensitive to EVERYthing. His mom was basically eating nothing but rice and he was still not thriving. I don't know what ended up happening with them since we lost touch before he would have been at an age to stop nursing. But that baby was so tiny and the mom was so miserable.</p> <p>I can definitely understand the guilt but if baby is sensitive to things diet-wise, the safest way to get him the nutrition he needs would be, in my opinion, to be able to control every drop that goes into his body with formula, at least until his gut matures enough to tolerate more things. </p> <p>Just my humble opinion :) good luck!!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula/page/2#post-242326 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:10:54 +0000 Mrs. Sunglasses 242326@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>honestly, selfish or not... i would switch. I stopped pumping when Mavrick went on a nursing strike and honestly... I don't regret giving him formula. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula/page/2#post-242321 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:03:53 +0000 mom2b2agirl 242321@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@winniebee: oh do I ever understand the guilt you're feeling. Day 2 of not pumping I woke up in the middle of the night almost in tears and rushed to pump lol!<br /> I did try the soy for all of 2 days. Didn't give it much of a chance because lo wouldn't keep it down and became so constipated. Maybe it would have worked but once we changed to nutramigen we noticed a difference in 24 hours.<br /> Have you looked at the list of foods to avoid isf your lo is msps? It's so lengthy and not just obvious dairy. Lots of milk and soy protein everywhere. My lo did get better on my bm when i avoided as much dairy as i could but not compared to how ahe is feeling on this formula. I'm sure if I knew the extent of items I had to avoid and was successful at it, I'm sure lo would have been even better but honestly even on avoiding just obvious dairy and avoiding it in any other food, I became very weak and myself couldn't manage it. I realized that like so many have said, I need to care of me so I can take care of her!<br /> Oh and I live in Canada therefore no prescription will cover it as far as I know but it's not that much more compared to regular formula. Yes package is smaller but so is the scoop. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula/page/2#post-242027 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:31:01 +0000 winniebee 242027@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mom2b2agirl: Thanks for the input! DS is now almost 11 weeks so I've eliminated dairy for about 3 weeks now. DS seems more settled (and is, I think less fussy) but who knows if it is diet or just him growing up. His poop has been more normal (though today he had what I call spinach poop). I haven't seen any flecks of blood for at least a week so perhaps he just has a dairy intolerance instead of MSPI. However, there are occasions where I know it makes its way into my food and that makes me feel pretty bad. I'm almost at my revised goal of 12 weeks and since I've been pumping I have a lot of (allegedly) dairy free milk stored up, though I know it can take like 2 weeks to get out of your system. I'm considering going to formula in a few weeks, but have a lot of guilt over it. I'm just not sure what to do - I really miss my old food (though, now only have 8 lbs to lose....down about a pound a week since dairy free). Did you try soy formula before going to nutrimagen? Did you get a prescription for it to get it for more cheap? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula/page/2#post-240975 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:02:12 +0000 mom2b2agirl 240975@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@winniebee: how is it going? My lo is 11.5 weeks.<br /> I had the exact same problem. She was sooooo fussy and gassy on my bm. I completely eliminated milk or tried to. Its really hard and i struggled with it. That milk can hide in lots of stuff :)<br /> I now have lo on nutrimagen and she is super happy and has no gas and we have only been on it since Thursday. (i did try regular formula for 2 weeks before that and she hated that too)<br /> I struggled and had a lot of guilt about it for a bit but got over it really quick when i had a happy baby and now i am very happy with our decision.<br /> Oh i almost lost all my baby weight eliminating all the milk in my diet. LOL. Hopefully it will stay off ;) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula/page/2#post-220889 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:31:24 +0000 winniebee 220889@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@skibobrown: That's such a good point. Being a new mom has been so much more overwhelming than I thought it would be! Partially due to DS's eating and BF issues. Things have been MUCH better for us since I've been pumping, though.</p> <p>@krssmall: funny, I always used to say that on these boards to those looking for advice -- happy mama = happy baby. I need to follow my own advice sometimes! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula/page/2#post-220886 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:29:26 +0000 winniebee 220886@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Thanks everyone - I'm always blown away by how thoughtful and caring everyone's responses are! I'm obviously cutting out all dairy for the time being until we can figure out if DS has MSPI or a dairy intolerance and still pumping for now. I don't think I'll have too hard a time cutting out major dairy similar to what @regberadaisy did. I just KNOW I can't go to the extent of what @MrsJacks did for a variety of reasons (stressful being first time mom, love food too much, DH works late hours and I am in charge of most food preparation and we do a lot of takeout as a result....) I'm not stressed about the situation -- just trying to sort out what we should do next. </p> <p>I do have to say that today DS has been a happy little camper (barely any fussing at all). Not sure if it's the result of cutting out dairy for 24 hours or the fact that he's 8 weeks, getting bigger, etc. In the end, if we switch to formula, I'm ok with it....he will have been BF for 2 months, which is pretty good! </p> <p>@zippylef: Wow what a nice email!</p> <p>@MrsJacks: Yes! The ped did say it can take 2 weeks to see a difference but some show a difference in a matter of days. Tyler has his 2 month appt. next week anyhow so it's a good opportunity to check in (when I went in emergently yesterday, I did not get to see our own ped, but one in his practice). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula/page/2#post-219637 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:01:08 +0000 CupQuakeWalk 219637@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>take my opinion with a grain of salt because I am still pregnant, so I haven't actually been through this: But, i'd just switch to formula. It's been 6 weeks, so you did try. I just feel like FOR ME, that would be asking too much because I can imagine that BFing is already draining enough and then its like...now this. I love love love BF but if I were you I'd honestly be crying at this point and be throwing in the towel.<br /> There's no hurt in trying it for a week before finalizing your decision though! That way you can say you gave the new diet a try? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218894 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:05:47 +0000 yoursilverlining 218894@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I would switch to formula (and LO does get formula due to bf issues). Food is important to me (both the cooking and eating processes), it's a way I'm made happy and frankly, it's a way I'm kept and made sane. Formula isn't bad for babies, or a poor alternative. However your baby is best fed is what will be best for all of you in the long run. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218877 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:54:41 +0000 runsyellowlites 218877@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I went with elimination. I LOVE milk, like LOVE it.. I could EASILY drink a gal in just a day &amp; a half by myself! It was REALLY hard at first and I just about cried everytime I opened the refrigerator and saw the milk BUT that passed and now we're 3 months dairy, soy, egg, and nut free! For me it's been worth it and really I did consider going to formula but the alimentum &amp; nutramigen both still have casein in it so I figured I was better off just eliminating.</p> <p>You have to do what's best for you! I'm glad I went with elimination but still have days where I don't like that I have to cook EVERY meal and wonder if I can really do this long term. For now I just take it a day at a time. =) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218864 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:47:08 +0000 brownie 218864@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I know I already shared alot but I do want to share one more thing. As I look back at our MSPI struggle I get very sad that I missed so many of the great things that could have been. I get sad that I don't have infant memories that aren't constant screaming. I don't remember having any fun at all with him before he got fixed. So, no matter which direction you go with this decision, it will work and he will get better. You will be able to have those happy memories and time with him. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218554 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:57:19 +0000 MsMini 218554@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>In your case, I think I would have a hard time in not switching to formula honestly. I would probably give elimination a try, but if I found it too hard switch. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218544 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:52:31 +0000 Mrsbells 218544@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I would give it a try and see how it goes and then make a decision based on that. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218538 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:49:41 +0000 littlek 218538@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm going to be the minority and say I'd I was you I would probably switch to formula. I love my son but there gets to a point when you need to be happy. Happy mommy = Happy Baby. My friend had breastfeeding struggles and switched to<br /> formula. Her husband was not understanding but you have to do what you have to do. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218507 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:26:33 +0000 skibobrown 218507@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Honestly, motherhood has been so overwhelming for me that I wouldn't be able to change my diet to those lengths and still be a happy and sane person. It would just be way too much work to make sure I was following the new diet, on top of everything else that needs to get done for baby. So I would just switch to formula and say that I tried my very hardest at breastfeeding. ...Especially given all of your other struggles with breastfeeding. I also had every intention of exclusively breastfeeding, but for a number of reasons I had to come to terms with formula. My baby is still incredibly happy and healthy... although my bank account is somewhat poorer due to the added expense of formula. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218501 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:23:23 +0000 brownie 218501@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@regberadaisy: Yes, we have a tough time with it. Our Gastro wants us to feed him dairy specifically. We have been trialing off and on since he was 11 months old and had gained a pound a month. The Gastro wants him to gain more and faster and dairy is of course the way to do that. Who would have thought that one of the scariest things I would do as a parent is feed my child cheese.</p> <p>We don't see the stool effects we used to see. But when we fed him cheese every day he gained 3 oz in a month as opposed to the 1 pound he had been gaining (I personally find it amazing he can gain that much even walking etc. So I know we are doing something right). So, we have backed off again. </p> <p>At this point we are Not Trying Not To. Which means that we will eat some cheese or some greek yogurt. I can be less careful of prepared foods (so going out is much easier). But we aren't specifically going out of our way to get it into his system.</p> <p>My sister's daughter was "allergic" to milk (peanuts and eggs) from 2 years to 3 years. She was just declared allergy free at her last appointment. So it can happen later. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218499 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:21:06 +0000 Rainbow Sprinkles 218499@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>If you are stressed, then you cant' be the best mom to T that you can possibly be. Do whatever puts you the most at ease and the most comfortable. If that means formula, so be it! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218498 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:20:11 +0000 regberadaisy 218498@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: thanks! I was planning on reintroducing in small amounts at six months and see how it goes.</p> <p>@brownie: we also supplement! And oddly enough with a soy isomil formula. Just curious if you've tried reintroducing dairy yet? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218492 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:16:05 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 218492@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@regberadaisy: I did trials starting at 6 months, about once a month... but she wasn't ready until about a year. I think each baby is pretty different, and it sounds like @Brownie 's baby has had a much longer course. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218489 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:14:22 +0000 regberadaisy 218489@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: when do you think is a safe time to reintroduce dairy? I've been reading 6 months their stomachs might be more developed? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218451 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:34:27 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 218451@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@brownie: I'm jealous that you could eat hummus on your diet! That was one of the things I had to cut out... but great post by the way! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218449 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:33:05 +0000 mediagirl 218449@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@winniebee: I cut out dairy once for myself. I cut it out for a few months. It was hard but the results were amazing. I felt like a new person. If I had to do it for her? I would. </p> <p>But hey, if you hate it and it's making you miserable, go to formula! You won't help yourself or him by being miserable!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218445 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:31:08 +0000 brownie 218445@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am on an elimination diet and have been since my son was 3 months old. He is now 15 months old so it has been over a year. It was hard, but knowing he wasn't in pain helps (this can be achieved with formula too). So that is the most important part. Finding alternative foods was absolutely imperative. I eat a lot of hummus. I make hummus quesadillas and put hummus on the one brand of bagels that is safe. We make a lot of food these days including meats and veggies more often. So we eat much healthier. We also go to Whole Foods where I know I can find safe snacks.</p> <p>We found we had to supplement with formula to get weight gain AND it helped!! Nothing else made the stool normal until we did that. So I am in no way against formula. I will tell you, that we had to use $30.00 a can formula. I personally couldn't imagine spending that every few days to feed my son. We would have gone bankrupt. He also started refusing the formula after a few weeks. We then started him on the Splash (at over 1 year old) and that is $5 for 8 ounces. We go through one every day (that is supplementing). So, formula may be expensive (just an FYI).</p> <p>I think you need to do what is best for you and him. I would recommend possibly trying both to see what works. I wouldn't stop pumping/eliminating until the formula is working if you choose to go that way. As a previous poster said if you want to breastfeed after the pain goes away it may work out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218428 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:22:26 +0000 Sammyfab 218428@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I would probably switch to formula if I were in your shoes...especially if it means you will be happier and less stressed. You have gone through a lot of hardships with your LO and feeding in the past 8 weeks so you can be proud how much you have already done to make breastfeeding work thus far! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218411 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:11:15 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 218411@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Aww, honey... whatever you decide is going to be fine :)</p> <p>One thing I will say, though, is that Lala became a much better breastfeeder once I started eliminating because her belly didn't hurt so much when she started eating... so no more of the five minutes then pop off or horrible latch. It was a much better experience.</p> <p>Also keep in mind that Alimentum and Elecare are stinky and make really stinky poop, and are expensive...</p> <p>But having said all that, if you still think formula is the way to go, then that's what you should do!</p> <p>Oh and PS... remember it's an intolerance not an allergy (I know it's totally confusing, but an important distinction because he will grow out of it!) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218404 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:08:24 +0000 loveisstrange 218404@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>People can preach breastfeeding and how a woman should go to any length to breastfeed all they want... in the end, you need to be happy too. </p> <p>When I was trying to relactate to be able to breastfeed, I was driving myself crazy. I spent so much time and energy trying to do it until I realized that I was torturing myself and my daughter was happy and healthy on formula. I was spending time and energy on the breastfeeding issues when I should have been spending that time and energy with her. When I talked to me LC about it, this is the message she sent me:</p> <p>" I don't think you failed. I know that me telling you that isn't going to instantly make you feel better, :) but I want you to know that. And anyone who tells you that you did fail should be donkey-kicked in the teeth. You tried; you tried so hard. But it wasn't working out, and you made a decision that was best for your family as a whole. There is no failure in that; that's being a good mom. C is beautiful and healthy. To me, the most important thing is the bond between mother and child. If breastfeeding is getting in the way of that, it's gotta go. I've told that to moms before, who were exhausted and crying and telling me they felt like they weren't bonding and just dreaded feeding."</p> <p>Very sound advice. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218390 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:01:39 +0000 BabyBoecksMom 218390@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@winniebee: I personally would switch to formula. It sounds like you're almost at your breaking point now. Like what everyone else said, you need to do what's best for you, because that will make both you and your LO much happier. It's tough to miss out on the breastfeeding, but it's not like you haven't been trying. If I had to go through all of that, I would have switched. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218364 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:44:02 +0000 GrapeCrush 218364@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>in the end... happy mommy means happy baby. you have to do whats best for you and your family. everyone knows you've tried, just gotta do what's best :) as always, good luck</p> <p>ETA: i personally wouldn't have been able to do it... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mpsa-would-you-eliminate-or-go-to-formula#post-218352 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:39:06 +0000 LuLu Mom 218352@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I might be selfish but I would switch to formula, I saw my sister do the elimination diet (and dealt with her moods through the holidays) and it was not fun. She started to cry at Thanksgiving and Christmas due to not being able to eat her favorite foods. I would give it my all, but in the end I need my happiness too (and that usually includes a lot of dairy in my diet.) </p>