https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Wed, 08 Apr 2026 15:08:01 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533619 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:50:08 +0000 MrsSRS 2533619@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My only concern would be, for my LO, as long as some irritation was still happening his gut wouldn't heal fully. So the longer that even low levels of irritants were in his system, the longer it took to fully outgrow the sensitivity. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533609 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:41:26 +0000 MsHangry 2533609@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: I pumped while we were still transitioning to formula. Once he took alimentum from a bottle, I stopped pumping. I was going back to work, he was 7months old, and I wouldn't be able to handle the logistics of pumping. After he was 8 or 9months old my diet was back to normal and he was doing okay so we tried regular milk based formula with great success! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533523 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:17:42 +0000 JenGirl 2533523@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I have no experience with MSPI, so this may be an ignorant question, but is there any real harm from mucousy poop? Blood in poop sounds like something to try to avoid, but if it's just mucousy, sometimes, do you really have to change anything? I guess see what your doc says. But I agree that doing a formula/breastmilk combo will still get him most of the benefits of breastmilk, so that might be a good option. I also just couldn't do a TED! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533485 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:34:15 +0000 travellingbee 2533485@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsADS: thanks for taking so much time to help me! I have an appt with a GI set for this Wednesday so we shall see! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533306 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 07:53:17 +0000 MrsADS 2533306@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee We had poops like that ++ a lot more mucus. I'd definitely give the formula during the day a try, maybe it will work. Depending on how sensitive your LO is, Alimentum may or may not work. It is really gross so I'd start it now - I think the younger they are the more likely they are to take it!! You should ask ped/GI for samples to start before you shell out $$$. Our GI gave us samples of the ready to feed Alimentum (which was a huge fail for us) and also samples of Elecare and Neocate. </p> <p>It sounds like you're being super careful with your diet - that was going to be my other suggestion (you've eliminated soy oil/soy lecithin also?). I am super crazy anal about it. I basically don't eat anything unless I prepared it or I watched it being prepared. I have been burned before. Would you consider eliminating maybe one other thing, like nuts (peanut and tree)? Someone else mentioned chocolate, that was also a big trigger for us (even dairy free). </p> <p>It might not hurt to see a GI, but as others on here have mentioned - I think your experience depends on your GI! Our pediatric GI is super pro-BFing and takes a long time with us at each appointment and works very closely with us, so it's a godsend. (But we have other GI issues on top of the poop stuff). But I think some GIs will see you for 2 minutes and say "put him on formula," the end, which isn't really helpful.</p> <p>As @brownie said, you really have to go with your mommy gut about what's working and what's not. I think also (for us) just eating a cleaner diet, less grains and processed stuff, more meat/veg, is helpful. </p> <p>My son is 8 months and I'm dairy/soy/nut free, which compared to how I used to eat, feels like I can eat everything! LOL. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533273 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 02:49:34 +0000 brownie 2533273@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Breastfeed my baby. I have removed wide swaths of foods (dairy, all legumes, nuts, all grains). We pretty much eat veggies, potatoes and meat. Her biggest trigger seems to be corn. We tried neocate but it is corn based and we tried alumentim rtf but the dairy makes her poop burn her butt. </p> <p>But even with all of that, I know enough (second broken baby) she is 94 percentile at a year old and happy. You will find your path whatever it is. Your baby sounds like they are thriving and you know enough to figure out what needs to be done. Follow your mommy instincts. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533270 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 00:24:26 +0000 gingerbebe 2533270@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My son did not have MSPI, but he had severe reflux. We did 2 weeks straight on Nutramigen while I pumped and froze. I had already eliminated dairy, soy, nuts, crucifers, nightshades, and caffeine, but went hardcore with no decaf tea or coffee, chocolate (HUGE help), and gluten/wheat. I was mostly eating like bananas, rice, seaweed, chicken, broth, and vegan shakes with coconut oil mixed in for fat. After 2 weeks on my "clean" diet, we reintroduced breast milk 1 bottle at a time and watched to see how he reacted. We eventually got him to all breastmilk except 1 bottle of formula a day and he also was able to slowly transition to gentle, sensitive, then regular formula.</p> <p>I will say that I think trying to mix BM and hypoallergenic formula worked because we did it when he was so young. It really does taste so God awful, I have no idea how he could stomach it, other than it perhaps hurt his tummy less so he didn't care. So I say if you're going to do the combo-feeding, start now! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533253 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 22:19:34 +0000 travellingbee 2533253@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MsHangry: yay! That's exactly what I want to do! Wow! Glad it worked so well for you! Did you keep pumping during the day to keep your supply up or wean off of that? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533252 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 22:17:51 +0000 travellingbee 2533252@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoyfulKiwi: this is what it typically looks like if I've had overt dairy. But, this is is diaper from the other day and we can't figure out what he's reacting to now, since I've been super careful about even trace amount and eliminating even soy oils. :bummed: But this definitely isn't an everyday thing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533223 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:14:50 +0000 JoyfulKiwi 2533223@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: so is that his diaper always or just when you've had "too much" of something? Because that's what my daughter's diaper looked like after me consistenly having dairy. My son's diapers were like that minus the blood. My anecdotal opinion is that if what you're doing now (what you've already eliminated/reduced) has rid him of bloody streaks, then you're probably fine to continue on how you have been. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533221 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:12:51 +0000 MsHangry 2533221@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I did your approach with my guy. It took a long time to get him to take breastmilk from a bottle and then mixing in alimentum with the breast milk. At 6.5 months he took formula bottles during the day and nursed morning and night. After 4weeks of blood free diapers I started re-introducing soy and then dairy with no problem! We continued formula (milk-based) during the day and nursing at bedtime and morning.<br /> Solids went great for us. Just took it very slowly. His gut matured and he is doing great. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533210 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 20:33:28 +0000 travellingbee 2533210@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@gilmoregirl: interesting... Thanks for your input. I really hope I get to keep BFing!<br /> @DesertDreams88: thanks- glad you figured out what it was triggering the reaction!<br /> @Dahlia: thanks! Bummer about your GI Doctor! :bummed: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533203 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 20:18:38 +0000 travellingbee 2533203@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsADS: yes his poops are weird and crazy. Gross strings of mucus, bright green and smelly. He does spit up a lot but not projectile vomit. My DS1 was much worse with the spit up. You are right- it is hard to know what is best... Can I show you a picture of the blood in his poop? It isn't like a ton when it's there but it isn't microscopic either. </p> [attach=3175/16/o660z2.450x600.image.jpeg] https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533200 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 20:14:09 +0000 gilmoregirl 2533200@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: I had a similar situation to what you describe, and when my son saw a GI specialist, the doctor recommended we stay the course (EBF, with me eliminating all dairy and soy), even though there was easily visible blood in his poop. Obviously, it's not for everyone (and not for every dr -- our guy came up with this plan after discussing my son's symptoms and our wishes, but acknowledged there are a lot of different schools of thought out there and not a lot of understanding), but I was comfortable letting it go after we saw the doctor. My son did have a few blood draws though to monitor his levels -- this was due to the blood in his diapers. The doctor was not at all concerned about color or consistency of my son's poop. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533198 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 20:05:56 +0000 MrsADS 2533198@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee man that is so hard. I think most of these issues are due to an immature gut. Visible blood is tough for me personally to ignore. My son had horrific vomiting and was inconsolable in addition to the blood, so it's tough for me to separate. And his poops were always so foul smelling, full of thick mucus like strings of bubble gum. But I think only a little mucus and microscopic blood and no vomiting... ehhh, probably ok. </p> <p>I think different doctors have different schools of thought. In the end, you have to do what feels best for you. It's so hard! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533193 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 20:01:21 +0000 travellingbee 2533193@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@hawksaz: @MrsADS: Well I guess that's my other main question for the doctor. Can I just keep breast-feeding him as I have been? Is it something that has to be dealt with? Is it doing any damage to his gut? If he is otherwise thriving, is it that big a deal? Bloody poop seems scary of course, and I don't want to put him in any unnecessary pain, but maybe the best course of action is to just keep doing what I've been doing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533160 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 19:06:31 +0000 hawksaz 2533160@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I went through this with two of my babies and they both had the same general symptoms as your baby--bloody/mucousy poops, but otherwise thriving and gaining a lot of weight. I gave up a variety of foods, but nothing seemed to eliminate their symptoms. What me and my ped. finally decided was what a few of these other manmas have said - that breastfeeding with bad poops was better than formula. He wasn't concerned about his "health" because he was thriving. And, keep in mind that breastmilk does wonderful things in the gut. So, I thought of it kind of like it might be hurting him, but it is also helping heal him. I hope that makes sense! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533139 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 18:14:33 +0000 MrsADS 2533139@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee definitely agree no harm to try! Hopefully it helps! The good news is that baby is growing well and not having any symptoms outside of the mucus/occasional blood! If that had been our situation I would have probably just rode it out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533138 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 18:09:34 +0000 DesertDreams88 2533138@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Also, our doctor was not concerned that much about the mucousy poops, as long as there were no other symptoms. She said that it can be very hard to pinpoint food allergies and she would rather have breastfeeding &amp; mucusy poops &amp; no othe symptoms vs. giving up breastfeeding.</p> <p>She also said the same thing when the mucus poops disappeared, but baby eczema started (3-4wks later). We've determined that it was most likely a sensitivity to the soap we used, as well as the amount of scrubbing and lack of lotion. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533137 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 18:07:05 +0000 DesertDreams88 2533137@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This was definitely something that I considered back when we were concerned about a dairy allergy. It ended up being just nuts, so I cut those out completely and we've had no issues since. But I think it would be worth it to to try your idea, before doing a total Elimination Diet or giving up breastfeeding. Like you, elimination was not an option for me, but I really didn't want to give up breastfeeding either. I think the low-level exposure would help decrease the symptoms to a manageable level, and if they don't, well at least you tried. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533136 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 17:48:00 +0000 Dahlia 2533136@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: Good luck! Just so you know, we travelled 2 hours to see a GI specialist and he literally spent 2 minutes looking at her and told me to start formula. It was such a waste. (And I was going to follow his advice as soon as I could get her to take a bottle but in that time she got better) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533126 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:49:18 +0000 travellingbee 2533126@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JoyfulKiwi: Thanks! I'm going to talk to his pediatrician tomorrow about next steps so I will ask her about this idea. I think I might ask for a referral to a G.I. doctor as well. I certainly don't want DS to be in unnecessary pain, but I would also love to maintain my breast-feeding relationship with him to some extent. :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533124 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:39:55 +0000 JoyfulKiwi 2533124@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee: I'd think there's no risk in trying and it sounds like something I would try! My son was sensitive to dairy with symptoms like your little guy (just mucusey bms) so I went dairy-light. He always had mucusey stools as a baby, but never blood so I didn't elimanate totally. He's 3.5 now and just fine - very healthy, eats diary, doesn't have lasting issues. I probably could have cut it all out, but he was happy &amp; the low-levels of irritants didn't harm him. So your plan could definitely work.<br /> My girl is the same age as your DS2 and I totally eliminated dairy for her after streaks of blood showed up. She still has many mucusey bms, but is happy overall, gaining, and no blood so I'm not going to martyr myself over it. I want to keep nursing and too many dietary restrictions would end it for us. Give your plan a try! He could outgrow his intolerances quickly and you'll still have a supply to go back to EBF if you want. (You could also try to put a limit on amounts of allergens; like only a certain amount of nuts each day, etc to see if that helps) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533116 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:03:17 +0000 travellingbee 2533116@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Dahlia: Ah this is giving me so much hope!! I've heard such horror stories of introducing solids and it getting worse that I'm terrified...</p> <p>He seems to only have blood in his stool when there is a large quantity of whatever he is reacting to. Like, he was having mucus when I had baked dairy but full out blood when I drank straight milk. Now something the other day gave him that reaction even though I am totally off all traces of dairy and soy so I think it was something I had in a larger quantity- my suspects are peanut butter, almonds (in almond milk) or oatmeal. I'm thinking that if he isn't have breast milk in large quantities, maybe it will affect him less. But maybe not. </p> <p>Is there any risk to trying?? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533112 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 15:49:45 +0000 Dahlia 2533112@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think it might work. I was off dairy, soy, eggs, nuts, peanuts, corn, peas, and shellfish due to similar reactions to your baby's - no eczema or spitting, generally happy, gaining well, but continual mucous and occasional blood in the stool. </p> <p>Once she started really eating solids, it got so much better. The only time I've seen mucous since about 7 months was when I tried giving her peas (she's 9.5 months now). I don't know if she just grew out of it, or if it's like you were saying - once breast milk wasn't 100% of her diet maybe she could handle it better? All this to say, I think it's worth a shot. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533108 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 15:28:05 +0000 travellingbee 2533108@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsADS: yeah I just can't do a TED. I know he'll still have some reaction to my milk but since his reaction isn't terribly severe, I was hoping it might give his gut a bit of a respite if he's getting formula all day. I dunno. Maybe not. I was thinking Alimentum perhaps. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533101 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 15:10:51 +0000 MrsADS 2533101@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@travellingbee I think doing what you proposed is ok, but if he is still reacting to something in your milk, he's still going to react to it even if he's only getting, say, 50% breastmilk - you know? So I guess it depends how much you want to totally eliminate the reaction. Re: formula, you mean like Neocate or Elecare? Have you tried them before? They are really nasty and my son absolutely refused them and would cry hysterically when we tried to give it to him. </p> <p>Also there are different varieties of a TED. You are milk/soy/egg free, right? You may also try eliminating nuts and seafood. My 8mo has severe MSPI and reflux and nuts are a big problem for us. I actually eliminated all top 8 allergens and other things I identified as problems - for us, corn and cocoa/chocolate were triggers as well. </p> <p>At 3.5 months we were still having major problems so I went on a true TED - only eating sweet potatoes, pears, turkey, zucchini, and olive oil for 2 weeks. I then added low allergen foods back in one at a time. I would absolutely not recommend it and not jump to that point. I probably should have just switched to formula, I was a wreck and starving to death, but he refused formula.</p> <p>Anyway, now at 8 months I am soy/dairy/nut free and corn/tomato light. </p> <p>Good luck - I totally feel your pain, it is awful! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533097 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:42:22 +0000 ninja 2533097@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My LO had FPIES, and I've stayed away from rice and oats and it seemed to really help him. Sounds like your compromise will work for you which is most important. It can be really draining on you with all the kiddo allergies. He'll still get benefits by bf part time, and you'll worry less with him also getting some hypo-allergenic formula. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/mspifpies-moms-might-this-work#post-2533092 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:31:27 +0000 travellingbee 2533092@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>DS2 clearly has mspi and it seems some other sensitivities too that we are trying to identify. Ive been off dairy/soy and egg and he has had another recent reaction to something in my diet. I'm getting very frustrated and unsure what to do. his symptoms are not super bad- mostly just mucousy and occasional bloody poops, but he is thriving, gaining a LOT of weight, and generally pretty happy. I'm hesitant to go on a TED, don't think o can handle it. But I'm ok being milk, soy and egg free for now. I also don't love the idea of giving up breastfeeding so soon ( he is 3.5 months). I'm wondering if this might work: </p> <p>I'm thinking of giving him a non dairy/soy formula while At daycare (I would keep pumping for my supply and just freeze or donate). Then I'd nurse at night. I'd continue to cut out dairy and soy and egg and anything I notice is bothering him but not do a TED. I figure this limits his exposure to whatever is bothering him because the bulk of his milk would be coming from formula but I'd still get to BF him when I'm home. Is this a stupid idea?? I'm really hoping this is some kind of compromise solution. What do you think? </p>