https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sat, 25 Apr 2026 05:51:03 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1972909 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:18:10 +0000 Ms. Lilbunny 1972909@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@gingerbebe: Thanks! I'm definitely going to see this nap training thru for atleast two weeks. Sounds like your LO is doing great. How old is he? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1972831 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:16:41 +0000 gingerbebe 1972831@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Hang in there. Nap training does take like 2 weeks, but it will help your night sleep so much.</p> <p>We are on a 3 hour eat-play-sleep cycle during the day and my son will wake up 45 minutes into his naps during Wonder Weeks and growth spurts. Usually if he wakes up early, I just try offering him food and see if he's hungry or needs the amount of ounces in his bottle adjusted (we mostly give pumped bottles with formula supplementation). </p> <p>If he is not in one of these phases (i.e. he doesn't seem interested in food), then I will either adjust his wake time by a few minutes to see if he needs a little more or less stimulation and see if that helps. I do leave my son to fuss it out for up to 15-20 minutes if its only been 1 sleep cycle (45 minutes) to see if he can get himself back to sleep. If he's just sorta babbling and being quiet, I will leave him alone because I think quiet rest is better than nothing, but if he's flat out loud crying, I go and help. Sometimes they just need help getting through that sleep cycle transition. So I go into his room and do what's needed to help get him to rest because bad naps compound on themselves. If he's 30 minutes from his scheduled wake time and he's wailing, I just get him up and move on with the day and hope his next nap is a little longer.</p> <p>We don't use pacis and we swaddle weaned recently but we have certain cues so he knows its nap/sleep time. We have blackout shades in his room, we have the Marpac Dohm machine on, and we sing him the same songs while holding him before putting him down, kiss his head and say "have a good night night, mommy/daddy loves you." And then we leave. Usually when we do this, he either starts rubbing his face into our shoulder or he starts having a fit, depending on his mood. Either way, he knows its nap/bedtime. Our bedtime routine is largely the same except its preceded by a bath and lotion massage. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1972705 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:01:20 +0000 Suzanne44 1972705@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Ms. Lilbunny: Focus on the positives! It was very slow for us too. The worst night was night 11, and then it seems like things stayed good after that. I had gotten some good advice from others about naps and noticed my wake time wasn't long enough for my daughter to really be tired at nap time. Even though she was having short crap naps, she needed a little more awake time in order to have a really good nap. Timing can be so tricky! I think a combination of her being a little bit older and stretching out the awake time is what ended up making the naps successful. This was after 2 weeks of sleep training. And her wake time seems to be stretching even more now. It's amazing how much she has changed from 12 weeks to 16 weeks. So, there is a lot of hope for things to keep improving. Even if it's slower than you would like. Good luck! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1972642 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:17:30 +0000 Ms. Lilbunny 1972642@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Pumpkin Pie: He's usually content, but I have noticed that he gets hungry right away. I always feed him after a nap or a missed nap. There's usually 2-2 1/2 hrs between his feedinds since he doesn't always falls asleep right away for naps. He's on a 45min- 1hr 15 min awake cycle. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1972617 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:06:42 +0000 Pumpkin Pie 1972617@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Ms. Lilbunny: when he misses his nap, is he cranky or content? </p> <p>My baby is always cranky when she wakes up, and will be that way until I feed her, no matter how recently she ate. Is that normal? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1972537 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 13:09:42 +0000 Ms. Lilbunny 1972537@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Suzanne44: So far night sleep is going well. Naps have been a huge problem. I started nap training him last week at 11 wks. The first few days were really tough but I saw some progress. Today is day 7 of nap training. So far yesterday and today have not been good. He doesn't cry much as he did at the beginning of nap training, so now he will just lay in his crib for about 30-35 quietly then fuss/cry for the remainder of the hour. If he doesn't fall asleep within the hour, I pick him up and try again later. So far, he has skipped a few naps this way.<br /> A few good things have happened: 1. he's taking all his naps in his crib and not my arms 2. He doesn't cry the entire time he's in his crib 3. He's naps went from 20-30 min avg to 40-50min. 4. When he's not napping, I can put him in his swing where he will play quietly (before, he used to cry because he wanted to be held all the time).<br /> Cons: 1. This has been a very slow process and very painful<br /> 2. Seven days into nap training and last two days have felt like we've taken two steps back instead of moving fwd</p> <p>I'm glad to hear that you had nap training success with your little ones. It gives me hope. If it doesn't work for me this time around, maybe my DS is just not ready right now, but I will try again. :wink: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1972325 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:08:50 +0000 Suzanne44 1972325@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Ms. Lilbunny: 4 month sleep regression is the only that affected my firsts night sleep. The rest of them were little blips that caused him to not settle as easily for naps and sometimes wake earlier in the morning. They didn't last long. Don't know if that had to do it the sleep training or not. We did our first at 6 months using CIO with checks. Our second we did at almost 3 months. We did naps and bedtime at the same time. First night CIO, with checks but the checks upset her a lot more, so switched to extinction - much quicker! It wasn't a magical 3/4 days and done. Just steady progress for a little less than 2 weeks. She started out with short naps and couldn't get past the first sleep cycle, but I could extend them by holding her or putting her in the swing during those 2 weeks. Once she stopped crying before naps, I let her fuss at her 30 minute wake ups and now she has longer naps. Sounds like things are going well for you! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1971936 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 00:55:06 +0000 Ms. Lilbunny 1971936@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Suzanne44: I'm dreading that 4 month sleep regression :bummed: I plan to keep nights as they are for now unless night wakeups increase. During my DS last growth spurt he woke up about three times, but thankfully, it only lasted four days. Now he's waking up an hour too early and I can't seem to get him to sleep past 5am.<br /> What method did you use to night train your second LO and how many days did it take? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1971926 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 00:21:27 +0000 Suzanne44 1971926@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>If everything is working for you, then no need to change it. But, you may want to do night training (to fall asleep, not wean) if/when night wake-ups start happening more often. My second LO was an awesome night sleeper but I wanted to train her before the 4 month sleep regression, because I remember how bad and long it seemed with my first. My second recently went through a short spurt of waking up more than once at night and could put herself right back to sleep, and for that I am very thankful! I am sure we aren't out of the woods yet at 16 weeks...time will tell. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970867 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:29:25 +0000 Ms. Lilbunny 1970867@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Pumpkin Pie: So far, I have been rocking him. Twice he had his feed an hour prior so I knew he wasn't hungry. I rocked him but that only worked once. I still keep things quiet until 6am. And yes, I will let you know if nap training works for me.<br /> The first two naps today took a turn for the worst. But, no matter how hard it gets, I'm staying consistent. I'm giving it two weeks before I reevaluate. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970807 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:04:28 +0000 Pumpkin Pie 1970807@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Ms. Lilbunny: what do you do when he wakes up early for the day? My LO does this also and I just end up nursing her back to sleep until it's time to wake up. I don't know if that's good or bad.</p> <p>If you find a nap solution that works, let me know! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970528 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:26:52 +0000 Pumpkin Pie 1970528@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Ms. Lilbunny: from what I hear the short naps are common at this age and will take time to sort out. I don't know how much time though. Maybe some of the other ladies can tell you when their LOs started napping longer. I know, the short naps are a killer. I HATE THEM!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970287 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:59:52 +0000 Ms. Lilbunny 1970287@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Seattlemom: Thanks. I will check it out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970282 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:58:37 +0000 Ms. Lilbunny 1970282@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Pumpkin Pie: The same thing is happening with my LO. He can't nap past the 30-40 min sleep cycle. I sometimes go in to sshh and pat when he's waking up, he will dose off again, but wake up 5 mins later.<br /> He does sleep very well at night. He's usually asleep by 7-7:15pm. The problem is that I don't go to bed until about 10:30, so I don't get to enjoy a long stretch of sleep. I use this time to get caught up with things at home since I spend my entire day working with him on naps.<br /> The past three days he has been waking up for the day at 5am instead of 6. I try to rock him back to sleep but it hasn't worked so far. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970124 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:55:31 +0000 Pumpkin Pie 1970124@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I tried to night train at the same time with nap training. My LO would always cry when I transferred her to the crib. Now, it's pretty smooth getting her in the crib for bedtime and most times for naps, but she won't nap for more than 30 mins, and I end up holding her for the remainder of her nap. I don't know what it is about naps but it seems harder to train. But I say at least try. Any kind of improvement is good! I tried training LO at 9 weeks. I wish I could get 6-7 hour stretch of sleep! Your nights seem fantastic. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970063 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 00:06:29 +0000 lady grey 1970063@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Ms. Lilbunny: We used the Sleep Easy Solution, you should grab a used copy off amazon. They talk a lot about this in the book. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970055 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:51:20 +0000 Kemma 1970055@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Feeding to sleep isn't always problem, particularly if your LO is happily transferring from boob to bed and then sleeping a good stretch. If it's working for you then don't feel like you need to make changes just because :-) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970047 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:40:37 +0000 Ms. Lilbunny 1970047@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@BabyTsMom: The first few days of nap training were extremely hard (mainly for me, I may have cried more than my LO). I continued to second guess myself and almost gave up a few times, but then I would tell myself that if I gave up, my LO would have cried for nothing. At first he was crying a lot (max 45 mins). Surprisingly, now he will fuss and stay quiet more than he cries. If he doesn't fall asleep in an hour, I pick him up and try again in about an hour or before if I see sleepy cues. Thanks for your kind words. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1970033 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:13:15 +0000 BabyTsMom 1970033@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Ms. Lilbunny: In general, day sleep is much harder to regulate than night sleep; the part of the brain that controls naps is slower to develop than the part that controls night sleep. Therefore most people try to night train first. It's amazing that you're having success with nap training at this early age. If nights are working for you, and you're on a time crunch to get naps situated, then why stress yourself out night training too?<br /> You can try night training later on, since he's already doing pretty well. (fwiw, 1-2 wakeups for 12 weeks is not "ok," it's fantastic). I used to do the same thing, nurse last. I thought my LO would freak out if I changed the routine but it turned out he was fine with it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/nap-training-before-night-training-dilema#post-1969663 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:31:41 +0000 Ms. Lilbunny 1969663@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Hello. My LO is 12 wks old and sleeps "ok" at night (avg 1-2 wake ups 6-7hr stretch of sleep). We have a good bedtime routine (bath, PJs, lullaby, feed). He falls asleep during his feed. We have no trouble transferring him to his bassinet. Naps on the other hand have been a struggle. I was "wearing" my baby for naps. For about 5 days now I have been nap training him (CIO with me sitting right next to his crib). Some days are better than others, but I've seen a lot of encouraging progress so far.<br /> As a first time mom, I question everything I do and now I'm questioning if I'm going about sleep training the right way. Should I also night sleep train? I know that feeding him to sleep is not a good practice, but he stays asleep, so I am concerned that if I try to change this routine, he's night sleep may get bad. Any suggestions?</p> <p>P.S I don't mind holding my LO for naps, but he will be starting daycare in three weeks. Im sure that they will not carry him for naps and I'm worried that he will be really tired. This is why I decided to nap train. </p>