https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Thu, 07 May 2026 04:53:45 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854861 Mon, 05 Nov 2018 09:50:48 +0000 Portboston 2854861@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>From his reaction to the alarm, it doesn’t seem like laziness yet. I have to imagine most people don’t WANT to pee in their beds!!!</p> <p>Good luck to you! I hope the ped urologist gives you some insight. ❤️ </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854816 Mon, 05 Nov 2018 00:08:15 +0000 irene 2854816@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Sorry I was out of town during the weekend -- thank you so much for everyone's input and kindness :heart: </p> <p>I talked to the DH over the weekend a little (he was the one who insisted I should have started the alarm when the doc first recommended/ we first purchased it, and blamed me that I let this get out of hand because I didn't use it until now). We sort of agreed that that device was a bit too intrusive -- Its effectiveness aside, DS is going to need therapy psychologically if we insist on using it for 8 weeks! I also told DH that I don't trust our pediatrician and I am going to look into seeing a pediatric urologist. I will find out if it is covered under our insurance. For now, I am waking DS up at 11:30pm for a potty run. As long as he wakes up to use the potty once he is going to be dry all night (*so far*, who knows how the wind blows going forward, sigh). DS and I have talked extensively (that you'd rather have me waking you than having a psycho vibrate machine in your pants waking you up after you have already peed your bed) and while it was a bit difficult to wake him in the beginning, it has gotten a little easier. I guess I'll do it until we talk to the specialist. </p> <p>@ALV91711: Thank you :heart: </p> <p>@Ms. RV: Thank you, I want to reach into the monitor to hug you!!! :heart: </p> <p>@KT326: Thank you so much for the suggestion!<br /> To be honest, I am also hoping not to go back to pull ups myself as that was a suggestion from a book about bedwetting that we were reading earlier in the year and we made progress (which we stepped back since, obviously). I'd hate to completely ignore what the book has suggested. I love the underwear suggestion you have, thank you.</p> <p>@gestalt: Thanks -- yes, it was the breakdown of the solid progress we made that really was frustrating. Yes we have talked extensively about the alarm -- it vibrates when it is wet, that it is not scary, and what to do when it vibrates. But regardless it is still scary when it does vibrate especially when you are in deep sleep, even though you fully expected it. I am still very perplexed about it.... We have taken a break with it over the weekend (he was in pull-ups because we were not at home/in his bed. He did wake up dry though maybe because the bedtime was allover the place when we were away, and he didn't get as much sleep as he normally does), and even if we were to reattach it again I am going to wake him up at 11pm to use the potty so hopefully he remains dry all night and that thing doesn't vibrate. Or at least I guess that's what I'd do for now...</p> <p>@2littlepumpkins: Thank you so much for your support :heart: </p> <p>@looch: :heart: :heart: :heart: </p> <p>@Adira: Thanks for the suggestions! I have observed that in order for him to be truly be dry all night, we have to cut off any fluid by 3pm :sad: We eat dinner at 5:30pm, and he goes to bed theoretically at 8:30pm (sometimes later because he just won't fall asleep). He's 6.5 so anything earlier than 8 will be really difficult because he flat out just won't fall asleep. </p> <p>Say if we cut of fluid by 6:15pm (dinner is usually over then), he goes to bed at 8:30pm (empties the bladder at 8:30pm), these days he'd usually wet his bed anytime between 11pm-5am (he wakes up at 6:15am), if I don't wake him up to ensure he at least go once at 11-ish pm</p> <p>I'll ask MIL again, but honestly, if DH and his brothers had a problem they would have mentioned it years ago when they were all questioning why is he still wearing a diaper to bed. I could be wrong though so let me ask when I see them in Thanksgiving...</p> <p>@Anagram: Hugs, and thank you so much for sharing your story.... I need many many many people to tell me hey I am not alone. Thank you for that :heart: </p> <p>@Portboston: OMG, that has been my fear - laziness! He is the most "care-free" person ever - he goes to school without properly wiping his face/mouth after breakfast, doesn't use a napkin. Sometimes he uses the restroom and accidentally peed his underwear a little, I'd smell it (as in just normally when I am sitting beside him) and said gosh, you gotta go change you smell like pee! He wouldn't care and would refuse, and there would be a lot of back and forth until he finally does it!!! Grrrr. I really hope we don't have to do this until 12.... And I hope he doesn't smell like pee at school or we'll have another set of troubles...</p> <p>Thank you all xoxoxo </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854449 Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:57:16 +0000 Portboston 2854449@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don’t have experience with this but a friend of mines son had to wear pull ups until he was around 12. She said it got to the point where they knew he was just being lazy but they didn’t do anything about it until he was around 9 I believe. Which was the alarm and it didn’t work. Because they knew it was just laziness at a certain point, they started treating him like a toddler. “If you need diapers like a toddler we’re goinf to treat you like a toddler” Aka he had to go to bed at 7pm, couldn’t watch movies with everyone, etc. that’s what worked. He stopped within a week.</p> <p>ETA- I definitely don’t think your son is at that point (of it just being laziness) but I wanted to reassure you that there’s been much older boys dealing with this! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854431 Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:02:15 +0000 Anagram 2854431@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@irene: hey, just so you know........My sister is a family/marriage/child therapist, and she eventually tried a bedwetting alarm on her son. After they'd tried everything else. I think he was 8. I honestly can't remember now what finally worked, if it was the alarm or he just finally grew out of it. But the point is, I think she's a great parent even if we don't agree on everything, and the proof is in the pudding because her kids are now 13 and 17 and they are great kids---and she used a bed wetting alarm. lol</p> <p>They did get the medication around age 7 (I think it was a nose spray? Maybe I'm making that up), but they didn't use it every night. They got the prescription after their doctor suggested it, but they only used it when their son had a sleepever. My sister had a really close church friend and they have boys the same age, and they did sleepovers a fair amount, so my nephew would only use the nose spray on those days and he would wake up dry. </p> <p>I think I already shared with you on previous threads that my 5 year old still wets at night more often than not. She actually didn't last night and I was so shocked, but her wetting rate is probably around 90%. My second kiddo is 3 and has not wet overnight in at least 7 months. For a long time, I continued to put a pullup on both because I didn't want to embarass my 5 year old. But I recently stopped that, because my youngest would sometimes rip them off in the morning, and I was throwing away a lot of unused pullups, and it just seemed like a big waste. For the record, my 5 year old seems totally unbothered by the fact that she still has a pullup and her little sister doesn't. I've explained that everyone's body is different, and everyone's body learns to hold pee/wake up to pee at different times.</p> <p>The only times she consistently wakes up dry is if I set my alarm, which I did for a brief time over the summer--the problem was she still didn't learn to do it on her own. As soon as I stopped waking her, she'd wet again. I didn't want to make it a big "thing" where I was waking every night (because I think I would become frustrated without results), so I stopped setting the alarm and have accepted the wetting. She'll be 6 this year, so we aren't too far behind you, and it's even more common for boys.</p> <p>I do think a consult with a specialist might give you more ideas or ease your mind. Good luck. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854409 Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:46:07 +0000 Adira 2854409@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@irene: This site seems to have some helpful suggestions:</p> <p><a href="https://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/bed-wetting-myths-debunked#1" rel="nofollow">https://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/bed-wetting-myths-debunked#1</a></p> <p>Some of the suggestions are things like:<br /> - Limit fluid intake to 2 ounces the last 2 hours before bed<br /> - Cut out caffeine (includes chocolate, especially close to bedtime)<br /> - Shift bedtime earlier - the extra sleep may allow him to wake more easily in the middle of the night</p> <p>Also, I would maybe ask your MIL about your DH. I know my husband wet the bed at night longer than most, so I'm expecting my sons won't night train until they are older. If you find out that your DH (or brothers?) wet the bed at this age, it might relieve you of some of your frustration. Good luck! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854388 Fri, 02 Nov 2018 06:51:56 +0000 looch 2854388@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@irene: On occasion he does, just recently it happened, as a matter of fact. I attributed that incident to not emptying his bladder before he went to bed. He woke up and told me after the fact, so yeah, it still occurs. I try not to make a big deal about it, but sometimes, it's frustrating. Everyone gets frustrated! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854377 Fri, 02 Nov 2018 01:18:55 +0000 2littlepumpkins 2854377@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@pachamama: +1. I have a six year old too and I would be frustrated if she was still having such frequent issues with this, not to mention the stress from worrying that something might medically be wrong long term. I don't blame you for trying out the alarm, either. If you think it's going to be traumatic for him then toss it, but a) not everything our kids don't like, or even cry about, is traumatic and bad for them (it's not like this is some weird contraption you bought off the internet, it's a medical device..) and b) you have to balance that with the issues he's having (or not) with the bed wetting to make that decision. </p> <p>I would say though, for me I would frame this as medical and give him the choice to either try the alarm a couple/few more weeks OR wear a pull up. I don't think him putting sheets in the wash is really a huge deal, my three year old puts his wet clothes in the washer (doesn't start it) when he has accidents and it's just a non issue for us. But the option to just pee everywhere wouldn't be an option in our household. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854376 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 23:45:02 +0000 gestalt 2854376@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I haven't read all of the comments, but i just wanted to tell you to hang in there. I think it's frustrating when you see progress unravel. My son is much younger than yours, but we were doing so well with nighttime training, only to have him wet the bed every single night. And he would scream at the top of his lungs freaking out about being on wet sheets. He also would pee quite a bit. It was really impacting our sleep so we decided to put him back into pullups. After a month of dry pullups, we put him back into underwear and it's been good so far.</p> <p>You could be more frustrated because he's so advanced in other areas, you wonder why he just can't get THIS. But this doesn't seem to be anything he has control over right now. It's hard, but it's important to get away from our parents' way of doing things (i.e., shaming, disapproval, etc.). Have you talked to him about the alarm so he's aware of what's happening when he feels it vibrate? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854374 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 23:13:53 +0000 nwm 2854374@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Just wanted to add that it sounds like a lot of your family and maybe DH are being unfair to you and acting as though an issue you have no control over is your responsibility to fix. I don’t know anything about the issue but it certainly sounds to me based on the responses on this board that it’s a medical issue and not something you can fix by somehow training him. In any case I hope that some of the information you’ve gotten here can help you feel confident pushing back against some of that pressure and making sure that your DH and others give your son — and you — grace and understanding as he grows out of it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854357 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 20:44:21 +0000 KT326 2854357@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@irene: I get that you are venting here, but sometimes it comes across as you are giving your son a hard time about wetting the bed. Your last post seemed to clear that up, for me at least. </p> <p>I honestly don’t think anything can be done unless there is an underlying medical issue. If that’s the case I would seek a second opinion from another pediatrician. My son still wets the bed (he has no problem wearing a pull up though) and our ped said we can talk about it next summer (after he turns 7 in March) if there is no improvement. But she also mentioned that because my DH was also a late bedwetter (until like 9 or 10!) DS might be as well. We did have some constipation issues but they have cleared up and he still wets his pull up. </p> <p>Since he doesn’t want to wear a pull up could you try something like this? It looks more like underwear and there is space for an extra asborbant pad. </p> <p><a href="https://bedwettingstore.com/boys-washable-absorbent-briefs.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgcCpicq03gIVlI9-Ch3xcQUFEAQYAiABEgKi4PD_BwE" rel="nofollow">https://bedwettingstore.com/boys-washable-absorbent-briefs.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgcCpicq03gIVlI9-Ch3xcQUFEAQYAiABEgKi4PD_BwE</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854356 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 20:43:51 +0000 Ms. RV 2854356@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am sorry you are going through something so frustrating :sad: If it is any consolation, these alarms are deemed medical devices by the FDA. That means they have to have some efficacy to them. They may not work for everyone, but if the alarms were cruel with no benefits, they would never get approval for sale. So don't feel bad for trying it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854355 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 20:35:49 +0000 ALV91711 2854355@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Just wanted to send some love as you figure this out. I have no advice but hopefully you can find some other solutions. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854351 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 20:13:09 +0000 irene 2854351@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@pachamama: Yes I know what you mean. Hugs xoxoxo and thanks dear :heart: best wishes to you too, and I hope you have figured it out on your issue..... :goodluck: :heart: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854346 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 19:58:48 +0000 pachamama 2854346@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@irene: seems like a lot of people are being harsh. I would be upset and worried in your situation too and I definitely get venting here bc IRL friends and family can sometimes be unhelpful, uninformed, and unkind. I once felt attacked for asking about some mental health issues and it sucked 😣<br /> I'm no expert but I bet a urologist is a good starting point, just to know you did everything you could. Best of luck with your little guy. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854341 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 19:38:48 +0000 irene 2854341@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Thank you for all the suggestions of a pediatric urologist -- I truly haven't thought about that. I thought about child psychologist but some reason not pediatric urologist. I have just posted on our local FB board to ask for reference for a general idea. Apparently there are only 3 pediatric urologists in the entire Atlanta (where we are). Thankfully they seem to be close by. I will look into it.</p> <p>Some of you questioned (despise on) why do I keep talking about it. Why is it OK to keep talking about breastfeeding, sleep training, potty training and other struggles, but not OK to talk about struggles with bedwetting when no one is going through it but you? I can't talk to any of my real life mom friends / acquaintances because I don't want them to judge DS / us. I have no one to talk to about and no where to get info from other than our pediatrician who told us to use the alarm, DH who kept blaming me on how "I didn't do something about this earlier", and, well, you guys. So, while I am really sorry to bring this up again, I am thankful to some of you for your listening (reading), brainstorm and your help.</p> <p>@Rocker2014: Thank you so much for the name of the drug! I'd keep that in mind and will bring it up to the doctors.</p> <p> @BadgerMom: Thank you dear for your kindness. When he reverted back to wetting every night, I didn't say anything for weeks (actually I have refrained from saying anything remotely negative for the past months). I always said, it's OK, we'll try again. You'll get there. It continue to go down to a point where he slept through in his pee. One day I said, is everything OK? Do you really not realize you were wet and smelly and uncomfortable? And he responded: mommy, it's OK to pee in the bed, I don't mind it. It really freaked me out. I couldn't tell if it bothers him anymore (maybe because I kept reassuring that it is OK, and he took it the wrong way?). Hence the alarm use just to clear on our stance (It is OK to have accidents, but not OK to not get up to use the potty when we know we really need to). Now that the alarm does wake him up because he peed, it reassured me that he genuinely didn't know he needed to go. </p> <p>I still can't tell if it bothers him psychologically though. He told me he told his "girlfriend", as well as a buddy at baseball that he still wets his bed, and they didn't believe him (!!!) Why would you tell people that if this issue bothers you? So I don't know. </p> <p>@kiddosc: Thank you so much dear -- When he was consecutively dry 5-6 nights in a row, he slept through and didn't get up at all, and he was dry the whole night. Very very rarely would he actually wake up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. That dry fairy has abandoned us. And yes thank you for letting me know about the meds -- I need to bring it up to whoever we are going to see next.</p> <p>@Mrs. Champagne: @Madison43: He protests on the idea of pull ups. He hates it when I insist we must do pull ups when we are traveling. </p> <p>@Blythe: Thank you so much I am interested, and will definitely check it out!</p> <p>@Blythe: @annem1990: Yes everyone said they will grow out of it, but then the other day I read it can last beyond teens (which will clearly be a medical problem) and it worries me. It *could* be DS. What if I continue to wait, DS turns 12, and the urologist we see then wonder why we didn't do anything about it all along. </p> <p>My mom said I was "night trained" when I was a baby (I just didn't wake up wet when I was very young), and I have never heard from my ILs that DH or his siblings had issues. M/FIL and DH, and my late mom, all kept insisting I "do something about it" and why is he still wetting his bed. </p> <p>@looch: Your son is also still wetting? I really wish we can meet one day, they are so much alike! (in good and in bad lol) Hugs. Problem is DS really didn't care. I think he'd rather sleep in his own pee than wearing diapers. But yes I'll definitely look into a pediatric urologist.</p> <p>RE: Sleepover -- we did turn down one sleepover invite because of this, and also this was part of the reason we didn't join cub scouts (for the overnight camps). And honestly, I would have started inviting people over for sleepovers if we didn't have this issue. we have a lovely trundle bed under DS's bed, and I wonder if we'll ever get to use it :crying: </p> <p>@pinkb: Yikes! What actually was wrong with your friend's DS? Is everything OK now? That is my ultimate nightmare.</p> <p>@muffinsmuffins: Thank you dear :heart: </p> <p>@lioneyes: Luckily we never had much of a constipation problem. But yes I will look into a pediatric urologist. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854288 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 14:45:56 +0000 lioneyes 2854288@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>definitely see a pediatric urologist. i have seen a lot of research that many kids (boys especially) are not producing the hormone to hold it through the night until 8/9/10 years old. another culprit could be constipation, which would make it physically very difficult to stay dry all night, and a urologist could help you figure out if that's a contributing factor. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854285 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 14:40:54 +0000 muffinsmuffins 2854285@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think instead of trying to push forward with what your doctor told you to do, I would begin questioning the doctor and get a second opinion with someone who specializes. Easy for him or her to tell you to attach an alarm to your kids pants, but you’re the one having to do it and it’s obviously causing a lot of stress and upset. I can’t even imagine having something like that on me as an adult who understands, let alone a kid who doesn’t. It reminds me of the old psych experiment of Pavlov with the bell...I have no idea how a buzzer/alarm would possibly train your kid to wake up in time to go pee in the eventual absence of the alarm, but granted, I haven’t researched it to know. It just seems like a throwaway, easy idea a doctor could tell you to do without looking at a true source of the issue, if there even is one.</p> <p>Obviously you care very very much for your son and this is troubling to you both. I think you owe it to yourselves not to feel pressure to follow through with something that doesn’t feel right to you and find another option. Be firm with the doctor and tell you it isn’t an option to continue trying and you want a referral to a specialist. In the meantime, I would do pull ups and call it a day. You guys need a break from this stress! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854269 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 13:44:56 +0000 pinkb 2854269@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think it rubs everyone the wrong way because you continue to think this is a problem that can easily be fixed because he is 6 or because he is 7. A friend of mine wet the bed into his teens when they finally found a kidney issue and he had to have his kidney removed.</p> <p>If the alarm is that disturbing to you DS I would trash it. I would find a different Dr. and I would make an appointment for a urologist period. I think you feel strongly about it still being an issue and that in turn is being shown to your son in some way (stress, upset, talking about it being bad?? IDK) creating more stress and shame for him. Bottom-line ya is sucks and is annoying but constantly taking about it instead of loving him through the issue and showing him its ok and can be normal, everyone is different, I think you care causing more of an issue for him. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854260 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 13:13:42 +0000 looch 2854260@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>The alarm sounds incredibly stressful...I think about my son (and I know we've talked in the past about our sons being similar) and how he would react and I think I wouldn't have the ability to commit to it long term. My son is very sensitive and easily upset, so I could see it being an issue.</p> <p>I would seek out a specialist, I really like the idea of the pediatric urologist. Even if they tell you to wait, I would most likely start using pull ups at night. My son hated them, but he hated being wet more.</p> <p>I also wanted to say my son is turning 8 in a few months, and bedwetting aside, no one is having sleepovers. I talk to a lot of moms and it's just not a thing yet. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854259 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 13:11:30 +0000 annem1990 2854259@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>No advice, but just know it will all pass and be okay :heart: </p> <p>My brother had a really hard time with this too up until 8 or 9. My parents tried everything (except the alarm...not sure that was around yet). We had several cousins who we learned much later had the same problem. My brother was so embarrassed and wore Pull UPS for a long time. Not sure when that stopped or what my parents specifically did other than just wait it out.<br /> No matter what route you choose to go, this will end eventually. I remember my brother crying so often because it was so hard on him. Maybe there’s something you can do, maybe he’ll just grow out of it. Regardless, this is not forever!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854258 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 13:02:23 +0000 Blythe 2854258@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Here is a link to some info you might find handy. Make sure you listen to the audio and view the slides at the same time. Both are available separately at the bottom of the page. </p> <p><a href="https://werklund.ucalgary.ca/media-room/news-events/your-nose-rubber-hose" rel="nofollow">https://werklund.ucalgary.ca/media-room/news-events/your-nose-rubber-hose</a></p> <p>The talk is actually about dealing with challenging kids (useful for anyone dealing with an ADHD child!), but the first part of the talk references some stats and resources about bed-wetting you will likely find interesting. </p> <p>Based on the research, I think you're right to pursue medical advice for your son's bed-wetting concerns, but I also think you can trust that this is just something you're going to have to let him outgrow. Based on your own descriptions, your son just happens to be a deep sleeper with a small bladder and perhaps an antidiuretic hormone deficiency. It sucks for you both, but he can't control his body just yet. You guys are NOT the only ones dealing with this issue. He is NOT abnormal. You WILL get through this. Unfortunately, time is likely the only thing that will truly help. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854255 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 12:45:37 +0000 ChiCalGoBee 2854255@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@irene: OP said:" ...pulling out his sheets and putting it into the washer at 6:15am after he slept the whole night in it." That sounds like he's starting his own soiled laundry, but perhaps it is not what you meant.</p> <p>I stand by my suggestion to seek guidance from a pediatric urologist who deals with this all the time. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854253 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 12:34:13 +0000 Mrs. Champagne 2854253@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Madison43: my son is almost 5 and has to wear one at night because he pees every single night still. My friends 6 year old girl also wears one every single night still. I don’t think it’s that uncommon. If your daughter doesn’t wet the bed and hasn’t worn a diaper in a long time, I can see how she would balk at the thought. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854250 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 12:16:35 +0000 Madison43 2854250@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Champagne: he’s almost 7? I don’t know what the right solution is, but my 5 year old would be mortified wearing a diaper, I can’t imagine how she’d feel at 7.</p> <p>To the OP: I have no solutions, but it sounds incredibly stressful for you and your son, so I hope you can find a solution soon. Maybe a second opinion from a different ped, or a pediatric urologist? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854248 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 12:12:03 +0000 Mrs. Champagne 2854248@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Put a diaper on him and wait till he’s ready. This sounds stressful.</p> <p>ETA: diaper/training pant/whatever they may be called!</p> <p>ETA again: I hope I didn’t sound harsh. But I just think it’s really common and waiting it out is totally fine. Try not to worry about what other kids you know are like. My friend who’s 6 year old is still wetting said she wet herself until she was 8. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854245 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 12:06:19 +0000 kiddosc 2854245@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I have a couple of thoughts on this ongoing saga...<br /> 1. It sounds incredibly frustrating for your son and for you, which means that it's worth investigating solutions beyond just wait.<br /> 2. The alarm sounds like it's very distressing for your son. If he's screaming and panicking trying to remove it, I don't know that it's the right solution.<br /> 3. Your son sounds like a very heavy sleeper. It may be that over the summer when he was able to be more well rested that he didn't sleep as hard and was better able to wake to use the bathroom. With school starting again, he may be too worn out and sleeping more deeply.<br /> 4. Is there a reason that you prefer pads on the bed and wetting the sheets and pajamas to wearing an absorb-able training pant, like goodnights? Training pants seem like less of a mess to clean up and less disruption overall.<br /> 5. There is a medication that will help to reduce the amount of urine a child produces at night, but you will need to continue to take it until his body catches up and starts producing the correct hormone for this to happen naturally. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854244 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 11:48:57 +0000 BadgerMom 2854244@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm so sorry you're still going through this. I don't have any specific experience in this arena, but I just wanted to say that I know you are trying to do best by your son. </p> <p>Have you talked to him about how he is feeling about the alarm? Is he feeling somewhat traumatized by it, does he want to continue using it? If not, I think you can send your ped an email saying that you've given the alarm a go for "x" amount of time and it seems to be having a negative impact on your son emotionally, what would he suggest you do next/instead? </p> <p>I know you've said before that the bed wetting does seem to bother your son and he seems to really want to try things to solve it. How is he feeling now? Do you think you could reframe the issue into something that is not shameful, just matter of fact that some kids are just not ready yet and it looks like you may need to give it more time. Then take a breather and go back to pullups at night?</p> <p>You know your son best. But I do think this is SUPER important to reframe this "issue" in all of your minds to hopefully create less stress/anxiety/shame. Hugs :heart: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854243 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 11:47:02 +0000 Rocker2014 2854243@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I've worked with a number of youth who have had wonderful success with DDAVP, which is a medication that can be taken orally or as a spray. If you haven't yet, you may want to consider looking into it, and talking to your pediatrician. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854242 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 11:42:33 +0000 irene 2854242@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@ChiCalGoBee: He doesn't change his own sheets (he couldn't even if he wants to), there are disposable taped down "pads" we used on top of his sheets that protects his bed, and on top of it there is another small wrap that goes on top which he can easily pull off to put in the washer.</p> <p>ETA: In fact, I wrote our pediatrician the first day after we used the alarm, and I complained about how intrusive it is.... he insisted he will learn in 3 weeks and we must continue.... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/night-training-again#post-2854241 Thu, 01 Nov 2018 11:38:39 +0000 irene 2854241@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@LBee: I am sorry, I guess it is my tone in the OP that rubs you the wrong way (in addition to you strongly disagree with what I am doing right now). I am in a rush blurbing out whatever that is in my mind *assuming* you all know what's going on, and you don't. And I am sorry.</p> <p> I did not invent the enyresis alarm, it apparently is a thing, there are many brands (if you shop on amazon or just google), and many people use them. It was our pediatrician's referral a year ago, and he even referred a specific brand. I held off on it because I wanted to give it some time first. We were not going to use it but apparently the trend is going backwards. I figured if we have to possibly seek further medical help (if it were even applicable), I need to follow doctor's orders first. There is no discussion / next step if we don't even do the first thing he instructed us to do.</p> <p>I am sorry I rub you the wrong way. your child is 4, it is very different from 7. I wasn't worried when DS was peeing every night at 4, he was in pull ups until he turned 6. Yes I am aware of a possible medical problem, thus i am doing the thing the pediatrician recommended to see if this progresses so we can even move forward IF there was a medical problem. </p> <p>I really hate to start a fight with you all because all of you have been always helpful. If this continues to rub everyone the wrong way I will delete the thread. I just want to bring forward my struggle and see if there were any advice that I wasn't aware of... other than plain disapproval. Thank you dear xoxo </p>