https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Thu, 30 Apr 2026 23:57:24 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1974958 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 09:15:05 +0000 lawbee11 1974958@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Great read: <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/11/science-of-racism-prejudice" rel="nofollow">http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/11/science-of-racism-prejudice</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1970881 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:34:19 +0000 Mrs. Chocolate 1970881@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrs. bird: Thank you for the article. I read it in its entirety. Its a lot to absorb and turn around in your head but definitely a worthwhile read and one that illuminates so much while also bearing down on the crux of an issue that wont solve itself overnight sadly. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1970572 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:38:38 +0000 lawbee11 1970572@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrs. bird: Wow. That's heartbreaking. I can't even imagine. Thanks for sharing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1970561 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:34:51 +0000 FliegepilzHut 1970561@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrs. bird: That is absolutely heartbreaking. And correct. What is our future from here? How do we fix this?!? :sad: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1970510 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:21:08 +0000 MrsSCB 1970510@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrs. bird: Wow. Wow. I'm not really sure what else to say, that brought tears to my eyes as well. I wish I knew what to do. I honestly feel sort of frozen after this decision, wanting to figure out how to fix things and not knowing how. The hopelessness in his voice is heartbreaking. And people wonder why folks are so angry now. Listen to that. That is why. Thank you for sharing.</p> <p>ETA: I've also found the tweets with this hashtag to be very eye-opening <a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/crimingwhilewhite-people-confess-to-crimes-theyve-gotten-awa" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/crimingwhilewhite-people-confess-to-crimes-theyve-gotten-awa</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1970284 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:59:06 +0000 mrs. bird 1970284@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>this clip just brought tears to my eyes<br /> <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/12/04/368422790/the-sentiment-in-new-york-captured-in-a-25-second-audio-clip" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/12/04/368422790/the-sentiment-in-new-york-captured-in-a-25-second-audio-clip</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969849 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 21:03:43 +0000 BSB 1969849@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So sad about the decisions made lately not to indict. Then a cop being caught doing a chokehold is not acceptable. Then resulting in death?!? This is not right! The cop should be punished. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969805 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 19:56:57 +0000 cait 1969805@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This man has posted a very though-provoking series of tweets as to why videos of police violence and body cams are not enough: <a href="https://twitter.com/ashoncrawley" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/ashoncrawley</a></p> <p>"Cameras on officers can't record white supremacist logic... cameras will only be used to justify force bc, like the police producing violence, folks that 'view' these images on grand juries, prosecutors, etc. cognize blackness similarly." </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969725 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:06:57 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 1969725@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Ok, catching up on this thread and the indictment decision. Wasn't choke holds ruled unlawful in NY? I'm so confused how cops that broke department policy are not facing any criminal charges. </p> <p>I really hope the US can keep it together. This non-indictment is shocking. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969638 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:16:14 +0000 Maysprout 1969638@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So sad and scary. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969637 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:15:28 +0000 Madison43 1969637@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: yeah - I saw that too. It's frustrating because I don't think a lot of people don't undertand that the law does not care (or it's not supposed to care) if pre-existing conditions made a person more susceptible to die under these circumstances. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969605 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:50:03 +0000 lawbee11 1969605@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Madison43: I think it is, too. I just read online that some people were saying he died because he was obese and had asthma, which was not the official cause of death. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969601 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:46:38 +0000 Madison43 1969601@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: I think the medical and legal definitions of homocide are different though? Regardless, someone needs to explain to me when police officers are justified in using deadly force...because I really, really don't undertand anymore. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969598 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:44:21 +0000 MrsSCB 1969598@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@plantains: I feel like in cases where police officers are the perpetrators, the prosecutors just want to hand it off to a grand jury because they don't want to damage their relationship with officers they have to work with every day. That's total BS, obviously. IMO, in cases against police officers a special prosecutor should be hired or something. Passing it off to a grand jury because you don't want to deal is just...ugh.</p> <p>ETA: @lawbee11: Exactly, that also drives me crazy! All the people saying, "Well, I guess they just didn't believe 'beyond a reasonable doubt.'" Umm, they don't have to, the burden of proof is not that high... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969596 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:42:07 +0000 lawbee11 1969596@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsSCB: I don't get it either. The bar for an indictment is so low and even the medical examiner ruled it a homicide! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969594 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:40:52 +0000 plantains 1969594@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsSCB: I just didn't understand how given the existence of video it went to the grand jury in the first place. So confused by this one. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969588 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:37:16 +0000 MrsSCB 1969588@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mama Bird: "to indict, never mind convict" &lt;--that's what really gets me about these grand jury decisions. It's not even about guilt or innocence yet -- we can't even get to the point of having the opportunity to decide whether someone is guilty (aka a trial)! That just baffles me, even more so in this case with the video and everything. If that video couldn't even convince people a trial is necessary, I don't really know what to say. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969586 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:34:44 +0000 plantains 1969586@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrsjazz: I am taking myself home right now too because wow, my mind is beyond blown. What possible excuse will we be given this time? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969582 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:28:01 +0000 plantains 1969582@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: I am completely speechless. I give up. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969562 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:15:42 +0000 Mama Bird 1969562@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: wow. So what does it take to indict, never mind convict, a cop caught on camera choking a man to death? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969552 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 16:05:37 +0000 yoursilverlining 1969552@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrs. bird: great article, thanks for sharing! Unfortunately, the ones who need to read it the most won't (by and large), but great article nonetheless. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969536 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:51:14 +0000 lawbee11 1969536@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@pui: I'm not sure. I read a few different articles and there wasn't anything mentioned about the paramedics in them. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969520 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:46:07 +0000 coopsmama 1969520@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: I have no words. </p> <p>That is infuriating!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969517 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:45:49 +0000 pui 1969517@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: In that case, what about the paramedics involved? Will they be held liable? Didn't they allegedly not provide care while this man was dying? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969512 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:44:24 +0000 lawbee11 1969512@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@FliegepilzHut: @mrsjazz: @MrsLilybugg: @pui: @MrsSCB: It's just plain sad. And unbelievable. And depressing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969506 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:42:42 +0000 MrsSCB 1969506@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: I guess chest cams won't make much of a difference when even video can't convince people of a crime :-( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969504 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:40:48 +0000 pui 1969504@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: Wow, now that I really can't believe. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969502 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:39:52 +0000 MrsLilybugg 1969502@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: !!!!! I am sickened </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969494 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:37:09 +0000 mrsjazz 1969494@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: I'm so angry right now. My entire office has basically shut down because we're all in shock. Now planning for a rally tomorrow. I try not to be shocked about things like this anymore but this one, especially after watching that video, this one was hard to stomach. It doesn't matter that it was caught on tape, this police officer just got away with murder. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/no-indictment-in-michael-brown-shooting/page/7#post-1969489 Wed, 03 Dec 2014 15:34:30 +0000 FliegepilzHut 1969489@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: That's really awful. :sad: </p>