https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Mon, 13 Apr 2026 10:06:46 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage/page/2#post-153501 Wed, 09 May 2012 21:03:41 +0000 SleepyMonkey 153501@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@His Barista: not just you, i agree! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage/page/2#post-153402 Wed, 09 May 2012 18:57:55 +0000 Andrea 153402@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>What took him so long? :-p </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage/page/2#post-153399 Wed, 09 May 2012 18:54:10 +0000 skibobrown 153399@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>It's about time! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage/page/2#post-153395 Wed, 09 May 2012 18:53:01 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 153395@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@His Barista: Depends if you are a moderate or conservative happy enough with Romney or if you are a progressive, moderate or liberal concerned with the make up of the supreme court, other judicial appointees etc.</p> <p>No judgment either way. :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage/page/2#post-153389 Wed, 09 May 2012 18:46:40 +0000 His Barista 153389@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: too late if he is trying to do something to make people happy enough to vote for him again. May just be me though. Lol. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage/page/2#post-153346 Wed, 09 May 2012 18:13:36 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 153346@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@His Barista: I'm just curious, too late for NC or for something else?</p> <p>Did you all hear that Colorado is now going to proceed with their civil union debate? </p> <p>It's a good day for human rights. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage/page/2#post-153285 Wed, 09 May 2012 17:13:13 +0000 His Barista 153285@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm glad he did it but it may be too little too late. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage/page/2#post-153279 Wed, 09 May 2012 17:07:19 +0000 Crisark 153279@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am not a huge supporter of Obama but I am extremely proud of this particular issue.<br /> I think it's a great thing that he did today. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153265 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:42:19 +0000 mrbee 153265@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@beka: Well, he's the head of a branch of the federal government... I think the impact of his announcement will have a significant impact on federal policy, at least for the rest of his term.</p> <p>Interesting how we have different takes on marriage equality, and yet we both agree that the President should have said something earlier. :-) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153259 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:36:22 +0000 lavender 153259@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Great news and makes me soo proud! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153256 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:34:41 +0000 mrbee 153256@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Rachel: I had heard that there wasn't a consensus yet on whether the language impacts straight unmarried couples? I guess the the NC judiciary will be busy! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153255 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:34:26 +0000 shinystraps 153255@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: I agree - he didn't just make his mind up today, so why not say something when you can have an impact, rather than afterwards when you're guaranteed not to? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153243 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:27:07 +0000 Shutterbug 153243@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: Yeah, I think that's the scary thing that no one is really talking about - Amendment one also nullifies any rights between straight unmarried couples. So if you've been living with someone for decades, have children with them, but you aren't married, now in NC you've been stripped of your rights, too. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153238 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:20:42 +0000 mrbee 153238@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@beka: Personally, I think history is on the side of marriage equality... so I chose to view this in that longer-term perspective. But I agree that it's totally fair to criticize the President for not changing his mind sooner (pre-NC and even further back than that).</p> <p>In any case, NC is the 30th state to pass a constitutional amendment against gay marriage... so I don't place too much importance on any individual state amendment (especially in a state where gay marriage was already illegal). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153226 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:14:24 +0000 MamaMoose 153226@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@beka: Deal. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153223 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:13:19 +0000 shinystraps 153223@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: Then that's your opinion and we differ. I work in politics because I believe it matters, not because I believe that it doesn't. We can have a difference of opinion on this issue. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153218 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:11:43 +0000 Maysprout 153218@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@beka: It could have worked the other way too though. The majority of democrats support same sex marriage despite Obama's previous stance. So he's not really there to convince the democrats. There's a lot of republicans that are super anti-Obama though and might just go against him because it's Obama. However, there have been several prominent republicans, like Dick Cheney, who have come out to support gay marriage and I have a feeling republicans would more likely listen to those people. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153217 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:11:11 +0000 MamaMoose 153217@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@beka: No I do not believe him announcing earlier would have had any significant affect on the vote which is what you suggested in your first post. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153210 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:05:56 +0000 shinystraps 153210@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: Sure. I never said Obama weighing in would have a, won the election, or b, made up people's minds for them. But are you really saying that you don't think the President could make a difference with people's opinions? I think he clearly could. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153188 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:55:34 +0000 MamaMoose 153188@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@beka: I think there is a difference between paying attetion to what national leaders say and letting them make up your mind for you on important issues. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153185 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:53:20 +0000 shinystraps 153185@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: Interesting. Perhaps it varies by your circle of friends? Mine pay a lot of attention to what national opinion leaders say. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153181 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:52:10 +0000 MamaMoose 153181@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@beka: I don't think there are many people who base their opinion on this issue on what president Obama thinks. People vote for politicians who are most in line with their own ideals,they don't make up their ideals based on what their favorite politician says. I think it was really bold of Obama to stand up and basically say he disagrees with what the people of NC had decided. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153177 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:47:44 +0000 shinystraps 153177@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: Sure. But the President still could have affected it. I mean, why wouldn't you speak when you have a chance before an election determining same-sex marriage in a state, instead of after? Particularly since he's still affirming "state's rights" to decide how to handle it in their state.</p> <p><a href="http://feministing.com/2012/05/09/breaking-president-obama-announces-support-for-same-sex-marriage/" rel="nofollow">http://feministing.com/2012/05/09/breaking-president-obama-announces-support-for-same-sex-marriage/</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.logcabin.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=nsKSL7PMLpF&#038;b=6420733&#038;ct=11751137" rel="nofollow">http://www.logcabin.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=nsKSL7PMLpF&#038;b=6420733&#038;ct=11751137</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153175 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:44:23 +0000 mrbee 153175@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@beka: I thought the NC vote had a 20 point delta? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153151 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:33:05 +0000 shinystraps 153151@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think it's interesting that he came out in support of this issue after the NC vote. Meaning, he could have affected that election, and chose not to. I actually disagree with him on his statement, but I find it a day late and a dollar short. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153127 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:24:48 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 153127@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bluestriped bee: @lilteacherbee: I hope you saw the wonderful and eloquent speech made by the head of the NAACP in No Carolina prior to the vote. Here's the video:<br /> <a href="http://youtu.be/ywImcNViPtc" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/ywImcNViPtc</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153122 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:21:20 +0000 mrsjazz 153122@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I was disappointed with the North Carolina results, too. I'm happy that President Obama has stepped up to announce his support for same-sex marriage. I think it's kind of ballsy, especially with the NC vote. I didn't think he would come out as a supporter until after re-election (if that happens). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153111 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:16:24 +0000 Maysprout 153111@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Obama didn't mention a Will &amp; Grace reference though. Nice announcement guess Biden got things rolling. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153109 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:15:55 +0000 BSB 153109@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lemondrop: Oh, cool. Thanks! I'll check him out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/obama-declares-support-for-gay-marriage#post-153108 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:15:01 +0000 lemondrop 153108@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bluestriped bee: he is a gay journalist and advocate, he writes with a really great sense of humor. The Onion has picked up some of his articles, and as Rachel mentioned he has a podcast :) Worth a google for some entertaining writing. </p>