https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Mon, 25 May 2026 11:24:33 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-174371 Thu, 31 May 2012 11:03:00 +0000 ladyfingers 174371@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Sweet T: Oh, well in that case... idk. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-174370 Thu, 31 May 2012 11:02:15 +0000 ladyfingers 174370@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@RESCUEMOM10 is right (obvs, since you have a military background). I myself don't, but the issue isn't the BF-ing -- it's doing it in uniform. There is a laundry list of things you are not allowed to do in uniform. From what I understand, you're not even allowed to hold hands while in uniform.</p> <p>But I'm sick of the whole BF-ing controversy anyway. Florida is one of the 45 states that protects it as a right, and the 20-ish states that exempts it from public indecency laws. So if somebody looks sideways at me when the day comes that I feed the baby in public, eff 'em. If they're going to get bent out of shape about it, they'll probably disagree with a million other things I do, too. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-174029 Wed, 30 May 2012 20:14:43 +0000 Maysprout 174029@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think it's good for women to be informed about breastfeeding policies. Since there isn't any policy saying it can't be done in uniform I think it was nice that these women let others know that it can be done. I don't think this is an issue of women 'flaunting' anything or pushing a non-issue, since from the responses both here and on the article it obviously is an issue and people are misinfomed and think that breastfeeding in uniform is forbidden. There's obviously nothing forbidding nursing in uniform and I think that's a good thing. </p> <p>I think that it's extremely sad that anyone would call breastfeeding unprofessional. If people think breastfeeding is demeaning to women or unprofessional than these campaigns obviously need to continue. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-174003 Wed, 30 May 2012 19:43:08 +0000 T.H.O.U. 174003@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I agree. There is more to the story then the article share. </p> <p>If I remember correctly the moms were instructed to BF in whatever position they were comfortable with. The session included some neat shots of moms feeding laying down and tandem nursing. It was my understanding the pictures were just ment to be natural and I thought they were all beautiful. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173944 Wed, 30 May 2012 18:02:47 +0000 MamaMoose 173944@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Sweet T: If they have permission to be photographed in uniform then I really see no issue from the stand point of professionalism or what's unbecoming of the uniform. </p> <p>I still personally think breastfeeding should just be a personal decision that is neither condemned nor aggressively pushed on people. But these women have a different opinion than me and as far as I can tell they haven't done anything wrong. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173942 Wed, 30 May 2012 18:01:53 +0000 chopsuey 173942@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yikes. Why are people making such a huge deal about breastfeedingggggg </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173937 Wed, 30 May 2012 17:57:32 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 173937@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Sweet T: I guess I kind of feel like if they have permission from the brass, then it should be a non-issue! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173932 Wed, 30 May 2012 17:49:09 +0000 Sweet T 173932@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: I just read on the photographer's FB page that they did receive permission to be in uniform.</p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.232596086757694.78857.232328680117768&#038;type=3" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.232596086757694.78857.232328680117768&#038;type=3</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173928 Wed, 30 May 2012 17:46:52 +0000 Sweet T 173928@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: If I remember correctly, the photographer did a photoshoot that showcased several different moms nursing their children. It wasn't specifically for the military and they weren't on the job. The photographer's website is down but I remember seeing it when the Time Magazine article came out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173909 Wed, 30 May 2012 17:24:00 +0000 MamaMoose 173909@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Rescuemom10: Do you know if these women would have had to receive prior approval from the military to appear in this campaign in uniform? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173899 Wed, 30 May 2012 17:14:59 +0000 MsMini 173899@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Rescuemom10: I was also previously in the military and I agree with you that those photos are completely unprofessional. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173895 Wed, 30 May 2012 17:09:11 +0000 googly-eyes 173895@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Rescuemom10 Good point, I didn't even think of that at first...I just thought..as one of the people who might feel a little uncomfortable around public breastfeeding (without covers)..even though it would make me do a little double take, because I don't see that generally, I wouldn't care so much that I'd think it should be on the news!</p> <p>ETA...Wanted to clarify, and by saying it makes me "uncomfortable" I don't mean I'd judge or try to make them stop, I just would be surprised with a "woah!" reaction, NOT an "ew, go away." </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173891 Wed, 30 May 2012 17:03:13 +0000 Grace 173891@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMoose: I kind of agree with you about the woman on the left, but I imagine it would be difficult to BF two babies at the same time without showing that much. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173889 Wed, 30 May 2012 17:01:21 +0000 MsLipGloss 173889@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsJacks: I believe it was done for a local (for Fairchild AFB) breastfeeding support group, and was not part of an official military campaign for BFing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173887 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:59:07 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 173887@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Maybe I'm confused but wasn't this a photoshoot done by the military for military women promoting breastfeeding? Would the military itself really sanction something unbecoming of the uniform? Maybe I misread?! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173883 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:53:10 +0000 MsLipGloss 173883@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Shimmer: Nope, you're not wrong. :)</p> <p>@SweetT: I grew up in a military family (my dad was AD for 30+ years), and I, too, am proud of service members, and all women, for making choices they believe to be the best for their families. </p> <p>But, it is unprofessional for women to openly expose themselves in a work environment regardless of their profession (there are exceptions of course, like for models, etc). This is true whether it is too much leg, too much cleavage, too much of [fill in the blank]. </p> <p>@RescueMom10. Exactly.</p> <p>@MinnieGirl: In terms of undermining a woman's authority/credibility, unfortunately, this exists across the board in a multitude of professions, and is not limited to just service members . . . many professions are male dominated - I know mine certainly is. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173875 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:42:47 +0000 Rescuemom10 173875@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I agree that it was a photo shoot and why it was done, but I think the frustrating thing is that it was to bring light to the subject and almost make a controvercy over it. The Military is pro-breastfeeding and encourages it. My dislike is the intention of doing it in uniform so publically. It should be a VERY rare instance where you would be in uniform and have to do this.<br /> Yes men and women are very different, clearly, and this is and has always been a mans comunity in the Military , I know this first hand, and we as women in the service have come a long way to be treated as equals, to be offered fair treatment and allowed to do the things the men do in the service, I just don tlike double standards over uniform regualtions. I personally would not want any "fluff" room on getting away with being out of uniform even if for a very legit reason such as BF. I beleive it to be more professional in private when it comes to being in uniform. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173862 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:35:13 +0000 loveisstrange 173862@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My first reaction? Why is this news? I'm honestly really sick of people making a fuss about it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173861 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:34:48 +0000 Minnie_Girl 173861@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Those photos are awesome! </p> <p>Some of the quotes from the article are horribly revealing about the mindset towards women and their bodies. </p> <p>"A lot of people are saying it's a disgrace to the uniform. They're comparing it to urinating and defecating [while in uniform]...."</p> <p>Because feeding your child is equivalent to taking a dump?</p> <p>And they talk a bit about people "who believe breast-feeding in uniform undermines the authority of a female officer." </p> <p>Ha! The problem is that it's a completely female, feminine act happening in a traditionally male, masculine outfit. Any perceived undermining of authority only happens because the breastfeeding military moms are challenging old gender stereotypes. </p> <p>People need to keep in mind that they were doing a photoshoot on in-uniform breastfeeding for a support group. These photos weren't snapped while the women were working. And I doubt they expected the power of the internet to turn the pics into such an, ahem, exposed controversy... :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173860 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:34:31 +0000 Jumpingjacks 173860@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think the media, and society, will never get enough of discussing and debating what women should and should not do with their bodies, where they do it, how they do it, what their wear while they're doing it, what they're not doing while their doing it...and on and on. Especially when it comes to their breasts. As far as I'm concerned this is a non-issue. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173856 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:31:48 +0000 Sweet T 173856@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Shimmer: I reread what I wrote and deleted it because it didn't quite come out like I wanted it too. I just meant that it shouldn't seem unprofessional just because the women are in their uniforms. Other moms are constantly being praised for BFing in public or pumping at work. I don't think these moms should be getting so much flack just because of their profession. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173849 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:26:19 +0000 Shimmer 173849@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Sweet T: I'm not sure that @MsLipGloss: meant that military moms shouldn't breastfeed... I think it was more in reference to the use of the picture or the extent of the one woman's chest (with the twins breastfeeding) in any professional setting. </p> <p>BUT I could be wrong. :D </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173847 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:25:55 +0000 Rescuemom10 173847@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yup! NOPE!!!! As a prior Active Duty service women myself I dissagree with the women in this photo<br /> 1- it is unprofessional<br /> yes it is life, and its acceptable but NOT in uniform. If your belt is so much as turned 1/4 of a inchc in the wrong direction you are OUT of uniform, so how is this acceptable. </p> <p>2- tell me when it the heck will you actually be with your child IN UNIFORM, besides picking up and to and from work WHEN and why are you out in public in your uniform. This is a rare occasion unless INTENTIONALLY trying to bring light to the subject.</p> <p>3- It makes me even more upset if the military gets any flack for this. I dont know all the other service's regualtions on this. But in the US Navy they are VERY accomidating for this. You get 30 mins every 3-4 hrs. the breastfeed, even then no one times you go when you need to, they HAVE to provide a cool place fo ryou to store it and they very much so encourage you to breastfeed AT LEAST the first 6 mos (I kid you not its in the instruction OPNAVINST.1C) </p> <p>So yes I am very pro breastfeeding but I would never do this in uniform. I am at work right now, and I am not longer in but I still work for the Navy, I called my best friend down who is still serving and pulled the picture up and asked her what she thought, she was shocked and first thing she said was 'Nope, unprofessional". Also she said the same thing, where are you goign to be with your baby besides to and from work that you would be in uniform. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173845 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:24:32 +0000 Shimmer 173845@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm all for breastfeeding. Like PP, I'm against all the controversial hype coming along with it. If you want to breastfeed, then great. If not, awesome. Your baby, your choice. Why do we need to make it a topic of national debate? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173835 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:20:11 +0000 Sweet T 173835@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Good Lord, it's not anyone's business!! As a military wife, I was so proud of them! I thought the pictures were empowering. It shows other women that it's okay to BF no matter who you are and that you shouldn't feel ashamed. Both of my midwives were officers in the army (both Majors). They both breastfed their children. Considering that they are defending our freedom, I think should be able to BF just as freely as any other mom. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173822 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:15:26 +0000 JessicaMcB 173822@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This kind of stuff actually annoys me and I'm pro-breastfeeding. It's awesome that these women want to breastfeed their children, but why make a show out of it. Seems like their more interested in making a statement in a lot of these cases than in nourishing their children. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173800 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:02:31 +0000 MsLipGloss 173800@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm all for moms and BFing, but this (kind of exposure) is not appropriate in a professional/work setting. Otherwise, I would say live and let live. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173796 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:00:51 +0000 Baby Boy Mom 173796@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I love these photos. Those in uniform (generally) serve as an example to the general public and this is such a great example to be setting! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173793 Wed, 30 May 2012 15:59:05 +0000 MamaMoose 173793@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>People who go out of their way to be in your face about breastfeeding actually bother me just as much as those who speak out against it. Can't we all just live and let live on this subject and stop talking about it?</p> <p>I will say the woman on the left is showing way more breast than I would ever be comfortable showing in public, nevermind in a photograph that is being published nationally... but they're her breasts, not mine. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/oh-boy-now-its-military-moms-that-have-got-everyone-in-a-kerfuffle#post-173786 Wed, 30 May 2012 15:55:58 +0000 Mrs. Pickle 173786@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I posted a link to these photos the other day. I think they are beautiful and don't see anything wrong with it. </p>