https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 05 Jun 2026 11:45:45 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930780 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:41:07 +0000 MrsSCB 1930780@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Iced Tea: OMFG. Come on, people! That is extremely disappointing. But there will be an appeal, right? I mean, you can't just do away with the Supreme Court Roe v. Wade ruling that easily? Right?? I hope... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930762 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:35:30 +0000 Iced Tea 1930762@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm glad that didn't pass. </p> <p>Tennessee seems to be headed toward restrictions though. Their amendment passed. <a href="http://nashvillepublicradio.org/blog/2014/11/03/guide-amendment-1/" rel="nofollow">http://nashvillepublicradio.org/blog/2014/11/03/guide-amendment-1/</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930576 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:21:01 +0000 LemonLong 1930576@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My husband and I don't always see eye to eye when voting, but we both voted no on Ammendment 67. So relieved it didn't get through. So bummed about how red the state is looking though. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930563 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:13:55 +0000 alohaorchid 1930563@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm so glad that it was shot down! What a horrible bill to even consider! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930299 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 08:05:23 +0000 nana87 1930299@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So glad this failed! What a terrible prospect for women. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930297 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 08:03:06 +0000 Adira 1930297@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Emsmems: Yay!! Thanks for letting us know! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930290 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 07:58:07 +0000 FliegepilzHut 1930290@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Emsmems: Thank goodness! My state turned bright red overnight...hopefully we won't be next! :sad: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930203 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 02:00:34 +0000 turquoisemama 1930203@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Wow, just when you're in a time of loss, you get slapped with a police investigation.... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930163 Tue, 04 Nov 2014 23:37:29 +0000 littlejoy 1930163@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Emsmems: Thank you for the update! What a win for women!! We still have so much ground to cover, but I hope this sets the precedent to show we can't be walked all over. Respect the uterus! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1930141 Tue, 04 Nov 2014 23:04:46 +0000 Emsmems 1930141@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Just wanted to let everyone know this amendment was shot down BIG TIME by voters! A win for Colorado women again! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1902562 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 19:37:28 +0000 HolisticMama 1902562@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Amendment 67 terrifies me in particular since I am planning a homebirth in Colorado. Having a stillbirth at home is already troublesome...something like Amendment 67 could make it monsterous. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1902366 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:46:35 +0000 FliegepilzHut 1902366@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@TemperanceBrennan: I just wanted to say it makes me sick (and enraged!) to think of your Coloradan friend (or anyone else for that matter) being investigated on the grounds of having a miscarriage or stillbirth. So effing clueless... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1902355 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:39:22 +0000 TemperanceBrennan 1902355@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I know this was posted a few days ago, but I wanted to thank you for posting this. I am going to do what I can to help stop this. </p> <p>@blackbird: Totally agree that it makes so much more sense to draft specific legislation. </p> <p>Like other's have said, it's just a shady ploy to restrict abortion rights. I'm in Wisconsin and our governor (who is against abortion in all cases including rape and insest) signed a bill limiting abortion (providers must have hospital admitting privileges) and forced ultrasounds. </p> <p>I get it. (Some) people don't want abortion to exist. But it was ruled on by the supreme court. These people need to stop pussyfooting around the issue because it puts women in danger. I have a friend have a stillborn baby in Colorado. I can't imagine what immense pain this personhood bill would have brought to her and her family if it was law. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1898095 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:35:08 +0000 yoursilverlining 1898095@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lawbee11: I know, right? Really, they want the government to stay out of men's lives. They want the government allllllll up in women's vaginas. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1898087 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:06:29 +0000 skibobrown 1898087@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This terrifies me, and I will be beyond horrified if this bill passes. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1898078 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 20:54:30 +0000 lawbee11 1898078@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Aside from the fact that this amendment is unconstitutional it still aggravates me to no end. The thing I find most ironic is that those who initiate amendments such as this are typically the same people who want the Government to stay out of their lives/business. Makes no sense!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1898074 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 20:43:16 +0000 Boheme 1898074@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>And guess how many bills/laws exist regulating men's reproductive organs? ZERO.<br /> This kind of stuff infuriates me. Women deserve the right to choose. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1898037 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 19:30:31 +0000 blackbird 1898037@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Torchwood: yeah there's def an ulterior agenda here. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1898021 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:49:29 +0000 Torchwood 1898021@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@LovelyPlum: In some Muslim countries women have to pretty much hide the fact that they've had a miscarriage, for that reason. I can't imagine having that fear on top of everything else!</p> <p>@blackbird: Totally agree! Though as my husband said, they won't do that because that's not the point. @MrsSCB is right, they're just taking advantage of a tragedy to push their own agenda. </p> <p>@Emsmems: Yeah, that's a big part of why I'm sharing it everywhere I can, because it would be so easy to read it as its worded and think it must be a good thing.</p> <p>@redeyedtreefr0g: From what I've read, in India dolphins are given some form of non-human personhood, and there's currently a case in New York trying to get it for a chimp who was badly abused. It seems really weird, and I don't know what precedents it might set, but on the surface of it it makes sense. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897969 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:34:02 +0000 LovelyPlum 1897969@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@blackbird: I agree with you. I think this issue should be able to be separated out from that of abortion. In general, I'm against abortion, but I don't think this kind of legislation helps anyone, actually.</p> <p>Wasn't this potentially going to be an issue in Ohio, too? Remember when that creepy stalker kidnapped those women, impregnanted them, and then forced them to miscarry by repeatedly beating them? I seem to remember that Ohio was going to try to bring charges against him for killing the unborn child. I totally support that, but I don't think it has anything to do with the women's rights issue, actually. It would seem possible to draft something where the language reflects termination against the women's will?</p> <p>@Torchwood: among other things, the suspicious miscarriage thing kills me. As if someone suffering from RPL needs anything else to deal with. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897964 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:26:14 +0000 Purpledaisy 1897964@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This is seriously scary. I really don't think that this will actually pass but it is sad that it is even a possibility. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897962 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:23:26 +0000 MrsSCB 1897962@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Emsmems: ugh, it's so patronizing of them to frame it as "protecting" women. Like thanks for your concern, but I don't need that kind of protection.</p> <p>@blackbird: ITA that they should make it more specific. The fact that the law is so broad makes it pretty clear that they're just taking advantage of an awful situation to push their own agenda regarding abortion. Like they're saying, "hey, listen to this tragic story -- you think drunk drivers shouldn't be able to kill unborn children, right? Then vote for this!" Even the fact that they refer to "unborn children" in the referendum rather than "fetus" is extremely subjective. The whole thing is manipulative and deceitful. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897951 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:57:51 +0000 MrsF 1897951@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This is so scary and sad - especially hearing the misleading way that it is bring worded! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897900 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 14:14:28 +0000 Mrs. Pen 1897900@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>When I first read about this, I actually thought about you @Torchwood:! I thought about any and all women in your position or similar positions. </p> <p>If there is one thing I have learned, it's that abortion is never as black and white as many conservatives make it seem. I could never conscientiously support this. It's not even just about abortion - so many other things! It's so wrong. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897825 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 12:22:23 +0000 Emsmems 1897825@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>The personhood bills in Colorado have historically been shot down BIG time by voters! BUT, they are not calling this one personhood. They are trying to disguise it as "protection" of pregnant women. So we are a little more concerned this time that people will vote for it not realizing what it is. I hope not, I hope our voters are smarter than that. But if you know anyone in Colorado, get the word out!</p> <p>Ballot title: shall there be an amendment to the CO constitution protecting pregnant women and unborn children by defining "person" and "child" in the CO criminal code and the CO wrongful death act to include unborn human beings? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897817 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 12:10:22 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 1897817@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So what should the drunk driver be charged with? You can't have it both ways. He didn't murder a person, but he killed a potential person.</p> <p>Personhood bills are not good for women's rights and real-life situations. I would vote against the bill if I lived in my state.</p> <p>Honestly, in these types of "crimes" I don't see how any party or government has a standing to say they were negatively effected by the woman's choice. All of it is ridiculous. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897811 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 11:58:35 +0000 redeyedtreefr0g 1897811@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>The "personhood" thing seems to be popular now, I've seen ads in sidebars about making chimpanzees classify as non-human persons, with dolphins and elephants.</p> <p>Personally, my belief is that a fetus is not a baby until it is born. That does not mean that losses before birth don't deserve to be grieved, because of course I would mourn for an unborn baby, and feel sorrow for women who had to experience that.. </p> <p>But, in my opinion, until it becomes separate from the mother, it falls to the mother and father alone to make decisions that might affect the growing baby within her. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897789 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 11:22:14 +0000 MrsSCB 1897789@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Absolutely disgusting. Women are basically second-class citizens in this country, it's just infuriating. And people think sexism doesn't exist anymore -- HA.</p> <p>ETA: I'm 99 percent sure this would never pass, but the mere fact that there are people who are suggesting it and agreeing with it is depressing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897785 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 11:18:39 +0000 Adira 1897785@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Stuff like this sickens me. I feel for anyone who has lost their unborn due to an accident of some kind, but stuff like this is absolutely horrifying.</p> <p>I wish I liked in CO just so I could vote against this bill. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/personhood-bill-in-colorado#post-1897783 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 11:14:16 +0000 Synchronicity 1897783@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't even know what to say about this. It seems like a massive jump backwards. </p>