https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sun, 10 May 2026 01:36:07 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39844 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:00:55 +0000 MsMamaBear 39844@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't plan to try this, since Baby Bear sleeps so well anyway. Maybe if she were over 9months old and wanted to get up to play, not eat, I'd see it differently. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39764 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:59:40 +0000 chopsuey 39764@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: scary scary scary. something similar may happen one day. :P </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39651 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:00:21 +0000 Maysprout 39651@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: Lucky you got 19 minutes! I'd be all for CIO if that's what it took for our LO. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39623 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 07:24:37 +0000 Andrea 39623@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think CIO can probably be abused which is what these articles are saying. I never really did CIO on my daughter (tried a little but she would throw up from crying so I stopped) but I am not against it. If you only have to do it for a few nights, and it successfully trains your baby to sleep for long stretches instead of waking up every hour then I think everyone benefits. However, if you just let your baby cry and cry with no purpose then I can see how that may have some damaging effects. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39622 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:56:57 +0000 Mrs. Bee 39622@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>not getting enough sleep causes sooooo many problems in children. i think charlie would have been way worse off being exhausted every day from not getting enough sleep than from crying for a couple of nights.</p> <p>charlie's sleep was soooooooo bad. waking up 10+ times a night, sometimes up for hours at a time in the middle of the night. short naps that weren't restorative. cio was our last solution after we tried everything else. we have no regrets and he is one of the happiest boys i know. </p> <p>i sometimes find that the people who are the most against cio have babies that aren't such problem sleepers. if their child was sleeping like charlie was, i wonder if they'd feel differently. i know that i almost died from exhaustion!</p> <p>i know different things work for different families, but cio really worked for ours. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39612 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 04:04:15 +0000 Red 39612@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Wow, that Psychology Today article reminded me why I canceled my subscription. Bias much?</p> <p>I think the intention of CIO is often misunderstood. It's to teach your LO how to self-soothe and fall asleep without external stimuli and not a power-play by the parents like the article seems to suggest. If done correctly, your child does experience a few stressful evenings as s/he learns how to self-soothe but what follows is a lifetime of restful sleep, which will do much more to aid in their development than anything else. Of course, the best thing to do is to avoid bad sleep habits in the first place so that no sleep training will be needed.</p> <p>The article seems to hint that CIO parents have trust and neglect issues with their child, which is seriously offensive to me personally. I sleep-trained my LO using CIO and contrary to the article, am also extremely attentive to my LO. Seems to me the author is suffering from some transference issues. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39586 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:57:01 +0000 mrbee 39586@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@chopsuey119: Skynet-style? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39583 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:46:07 +0000 chopsuey 39583@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@NYCaliMama: I know. I heard the same. I'm considering homeschooling for the first few years. Seriously, I'm pretty sure somewhere down the line, technology's going to screw mankind. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39582 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:44:48 +0000 SAHM0811 39582@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@chopsuey119: yea my teacher friends said kids aren't even learning how to write cursive in school anymore... my 3 yo learned how to type her name before learning how to write it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39574 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:37:12 +0000 chopsuey 39574@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@NYCaliMama: I'm really afraid for the future generation. Technology's going to ruin us! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39572 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:33:41 +0000 mrbee 39572@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>CIO was the best thing we ever did for Charlie. He cried for 19 minutes the first time. He slept waaaay better after that, and I'm convinced it added several inches to his height as a result.</p> <p>Those 19 minutes were brutal, and so were the 17 minutes he cried softly later that night. But he slept 10 1/2 hours that night. I think you have to weigh the good against the bad. You also have to do your research. A lot of people just stick the kid in a crib and hope for the best. I wouldn't recommend that.</p> <p>That said, some babies don't need to CIO if you help them learn to self soothe and reinforce healthy sleeping habits. That's ideal, if you can achieve it. I think there's a healthy middle ground, where you start off with healthy sleep habits and try to avoid CIO if at all possible. I've seen a lot of reports of babies doing just that, either because they're great sleepers or because the parents emphasized great sleep habits right from the start. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39570 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:26:52 +0000 SAHM0811 39570@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@chopsuey119: @banana: Sort of related to crawling, I heard something about kindergartners having trouble with fine motor skills. It shows up when they are trying to learn to write and draw. Some think it's because they didn't get enough tummy time, because there are muscles in your fingers you develop when on your tummy as a baby. It sort of relates to crawling since crawling helps you develop other muscles too, but your friend could also be talking about other benefits/reasons. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39569 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:23:33 +0000 runsyellowlites 39569@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I used the CIO method with DS when he didn't need a middle of the night feeding anymore and it worked great! DS is 7 and we've never had any security, separation, or fear issues with him at all.</p> <p>I read the yahoo article but not the others and think that yahoo article was written REALLY REALLY well and thought it was pretty spot on. It didn't totally discredit CIO but did make clear that knowing the difference of normal wakings and something is wrong wakings are different and should be addressed differently.</p> <p>"What he does encourage is teaching children to soothe themselves during normal nighttime wakings. But many parents extend his advice to include all bedtime-related crying. That's the type of crying it out sets kids up for stress-related problems, trust issues, anxiety disorders, reduced brain function, and a lack of independence, Narvaez writes."</p> <p>I made sure that DS was not hungry, not wet, and took note of his cry and attended to them if I thought that maybe he got scared, hurt himself, or it was an odd time for him to wake up. If he sounded like he usually did and it was the time he always got restless then I'd wait it out and usually within just a few minutes (5-10) he was back asleep.</p> <p>I'll probably use the same method with all of our kiddos =)</p> <p>@banana: I've heard about the crawling to walking thing too and how it has to do with certain brain circuits that we develop and use with other things late in life. So crazy how that works =) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39563 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:14:49 +0000 chopsuey 39563@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@NYCaliMama: @banana: I heard that it's really important for babies to crawl too. Glad I don't let my LO cio! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39559 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:07:04 +0000 SAHM0811 39559@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@banana: that's really interesting advice from your friend. thank you for sharing that. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39120 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:42:45 +0000 banana 39120@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We didn't use the CIO method. It just wasn't for us. But with that said, I know lots of parents who use it and works wonders for them. </p> <p>My best friend is a child psychologist who specializes in childhood development and she told me to always remember these 2 things: 1) dont' let your baby CIO 2) crawling before walking is really important so don't let the baby use a baby walker.</p> <p>I always call her whenever I have questions and she's been a tremendous source of information and I trust her with all my heart. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39047 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:29:32 +0000 MrsHotDog 39047@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We do not agree with CIO methods which is easy for us to say now since our baby rarely cries. I know that some research can be a little extreme, but what if there is a little bit of truth in what they say? I feel like if we let our baby CIO, she is only going to cry until she gives up faith in us coming to help her and I can't handle that thought. And neither can my husband. But I don't judge families who do. Every baby and every situation is different. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39026 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:14:32 +0000 pelikila 39026@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We used a modified CIO at 6 months. We didn't feel it was appropriate for our son before that time and when we did it, my husband stayed in his room with him the entire time he was awake as well as each and every time he wakes still (4 months later). If he is really upset my husband will pick him up to calm him. We are comfortable with the version of CIO we used but we also waited until we thought our baby was emotionally ready, not just because our pediatrician said he was old enough for sleep training at 4 months. Everyone has to find their balance. I think long term, by the fact that my son is still the same baby he was before we used CIO and he still absolutely lights up when he sees us and is now better rested, it was what was best for my family. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39021 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:10:49 +0000 Maysprout 39021@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think a lot of times science articles on baby are just wrong and exaggerated one way or another. </p> <p>That being said, we switched LO bed and she hated it so after awhile of her not getting used to it we decided to do CIO. I hated it and after days it didn't work and I felt like it was really making a things difficult between my daughter and me instead of our easy relationship. So I'm not a fan of CIO for us, it made things worse and uncomfortable, if it had worked within a couple days I probably would have been a fan of it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39019 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:10:02 +0000 SAHM0811 39019@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@chopsuey119: i know, CIO is tough... I can't really remember how long we ever let our eldest cry. the minutes are so slow when they are crying so bad. i hate it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-39003 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:00:19 +0000 chopsuey 39003@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm not a CIO fan. DH can't stand hearing her cry either. It works for us. My dad (doctor) says that babies develop trust and etc up until they're 18 months old and that I need to be with her 24/7. He's a little out of control with the 24/7, but I never liked the idea of leaving her alone crying in her room so I stay with her until she falls asleep, or I'll leave her and she falls asleep quietly on her own.<br /> On the rare occasion when I'm tired and she's being fussy I'll leave her alone to cry. She's only CIO'd a handful of times and cried no more than 10 mins. Longest 10 mins of my life! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-38995 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:54:14 +0000 ecogirl 38995@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We let Liam cry it out in a sense. We gradually delayed our time in getting to him. It was very methodical and worked like a charm. When he was crying for something unneeded he would stop by the time we almost reached him. If he did need something we knew it was a need because he didn't stop by the time we reached him. It worked quite well for us. I think the problem isn't the idea but how parents abuse that idea. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-38989 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:52:08 +0000 heffalump 38989@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Even without reading the articles my hubby and I didn't want to let our lo cio. We just feel like we don't want her to learn that if she cries for us we won't be there for her. </p> <p>But things are always changing and they keep deciding different things. Next year cio will probably be good again and we'll have to put our babies on their tummy to sleep. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/psychology-today-article-on-cio#post-38974 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:43:28 +0000 SAHM0811 38974@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Been seeing this article on the "dangers" of CIO methods a lot on FB. We didn't have to resort to some type of CIO for my eldest til she was 13 months. Baby 2.0 is almost 6 months and a pretty good sleeper too, so no need either (yet)... but I have heard of CIO methods working like a charm for some families. </p> <p>Curious as to what Mama Bees on here think...</p> <p>Yahoo article: <a href="http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/crying-dangerous-kids-one-expert-says-222400379.html" rel="nofollow">http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/crying-dangerous-kids-one-expert-says-222400379.html</a></p> <p>Psychology Today article: <a href="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201112/dangers-crying-it-out" rel="nofollow">http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201112/dangers-crying-it-out</a></p> <p>Parents of little ones, did you let your baby CIO? Do you think CIO methods could possibly have long-term effects? </p> <p>Mamas-to-bee, do these articles make you think twice about CIO methods? </p>