https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Thu, 23 Apr 2026 01:09:40 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-270487 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:37:22 +0000 anonysquire 270487@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Rachel: Long story but this man's mom sold my dad her son's property after her son thought he would get it free for the rest of his life or something. So the guy is angry at my dad for buying his property. My dad always has windows broken in, paintballs covering his building and other immature crap. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-270472 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:24:07 +0000 Shutterbug 270472@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anonysquire: your dad has a stalker?? scary! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-270470 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:22:08 +0000 mrbee 270470@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anonysquire: not sure if you're serious, but British police do have weapons.</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-270463 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:16:02 +0000 mrbee 270463@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm not sure what the answer is, but it's pretty clear that the current system isn't working. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-270451 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:03:24 +0000 anonysquire 270451@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrsbells: Police men do not have guns in England? How dangerous! What would they do if someone was waving a gun at them? Karate chop them? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-270449 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:02:40 +0000 anonysquire 270449@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@alison206: I agree with you and Highwire. All the adults in my family have concealed permits. None of us are crazy, and they there for emergencies. My dad has a gun with him at all times because he has a stalker that has come behind him with a knife before. We all need to protect ourselves. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-270447 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:55:58 +0000 Clementine 270447@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Tidybee: so scary. i live right near there and was freaking out bc my MIL and LO sometimes can take walks there. too close for comfort. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269883 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:32:27 +0000 JennyLayneAZ 269883@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Modern Daisy: I know, I read that too. You just don't think you're going to be caught in crossfire while walking and minding your own business. So sad. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269882 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:32:25 +0000 Mrs. Lantern 269882@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrsbells: I live in Canada and I agree with what you said completely. Shootings can happen anywhere, but its the accessibility of guns and frequency that's concerning. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269873 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:28:13 +0000 Modern Daisy 269873@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@JennyLayneAZ: I know, well they were caught in the cross fire apparently which is so horrible. When the police confronted the gunman he started shooting at them, so the police shot back and killed him. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269869 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:26:34 +0000 JennyLayneAZ 269869@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Modern Daisy: It's so scary isn't it! They're supposed to protect us :( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269866 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:25:38 +0000 Modern Daisy 269866@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This is horrific. It seems like now they think the 9 people who were injured may have been shot by police after they opened fire on the gunman. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269863 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:23:40 +0000 Mrsbells 269863@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Beebug: The frequency of mass and random shootings is much higher in america than other countries that have stricter gun laws. I lived in england for many years and even the police dont carry guns there. Needless to say the occurence of shootings of any kind is very rare there. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269862 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:22:42 +0000 JennyLayneAZ 269862@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Here's the MSNBC story:</p> <p><a href="http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/24/13455394-2-killed-8-injured-in-shooting-near-empire-state-building?lite/" rel="nofollow">http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/24/13455394-2-killed-8-injured-in-shooting-near-empire-state-building?lite/</a></p> <p>"Eight bystanders were grazed or shot -- all of them, apparently, by police bullets, sources said." </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269858 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:16:39 +0000 SAHM0811 269858@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Tidybee: oh gosh! Glad you are okay! </p> <p>We used to live on the same block as ESB and frequented that neighborhood from time to time... so scary and tragic :( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269814 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:50:46 +0000 sorrycharlie 269814@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This makes me nauseous. I don't even want to voice my opinion on the subject because...well I don't have a good reason, but I just can't even think about it right now. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269686 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:29:26 +0000 DillonLion 269686@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Beebug: Agreed. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269680 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:24:42 +0000 Beebug 269680@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Im from Canada, of course with very different gun laws than in the US and shootings still happen! While I think who can have a gun could be drastically scaled back in the US, even that won`t fix everything!</p> <p>Stupid people are still going to get their hands on them, and make very bad, very tragic decisions in all the wrong places and do what they please.</p> <p>This is such a tragic event, you always hope when you hear of mass shootings no matter where they are you never hear about them ever again, unfortunately we will, hope everyone who was hurt in this incident recovers and will be ok. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269672 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:19:52 +0000 Tidybee 269672@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I was on the very block literally 3-4 minutes before this happened. I am so grateful that I'm still able to walk at my normal, New Yorker quick pace at 31 weeks or it would have happened right before my eyes. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269662 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:15:36 +0000 ladybee 269662@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I gotta say, I'm with @highwire. I was raised in a NRA family and with lots of guns in the house. My husband has guns as well. That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and kill people because I have access to them. I think we need to be more cautious on who is getting them, and I don't think you should be able to walk into a store and elave with a gun. Maybe some mental health checks should be in place. People do kill other people without guns as well. Having a gun makes me feel like I could protect myself if needed. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269660 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:15:23 +0000 Beebug 269660@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Anxiously waiting to hear from my Mom and Grandfather who are in NYC for a little touristy vacation.</p> <p>Of all places they could be, chances are hopefully slim they were not in the area, but still eager to hear from them to ensure they are ok! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269630 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:53:58 +0000 Clementine 269630@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: i totally agree. why can't we required those who want to own a firearm take annual mental competency exams! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269614 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:38:58 +0000 Clementine 269614@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I live right near here, so this has been so disturbing. I was frantically called my MIL to make sure she and my LO were safe. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269581 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:12:37 +0000 Mrsbells 269581@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: Agreed 100%</p> <p>This is tragic </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269575 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:04:34 +0000 mrs. bird 269575@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I was reading about that, the next article was titled '13 shot in 30 minutes in Chicago'. I'm not sure how anyone could say gun control in the US is acceptable right now. I was never a big Jason Alexander fan, but after the CO movie theater attack, he wrote something that made me love him. I wish I could be as well spoken.<br /> <a href="http://www.twitlonger.com/show/if2nht" rel="nofollow">http://www.twitlonger.com/show/if2nht</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269531 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:45:35 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 269531@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@highwire: loaded subject (tee hee, morbid pun!). At least bombs and chemicals are regulated. Anyway, I appreciate there are differing viewpoints, but right now the discussion is so driven by one side that it's almost heretical to suggest that we should regulate guns differently. I think it's time to put all kinds of creative solutions on the table because the loss of like is unconscionable. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269517 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:42:02 +0000 Foodnerd81 269517@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: @highwire: I agree with Mrs. Jacks-- if you go on a stabbing rampage, it's a lot easier to run away from a knife than a bullet. I sure as hell don't know what the answer is, but this is insanity.<br /> I used to work 2 blocks away from there and would walk by that corner every day on my way from the subway, and my sister still lives 6 blocks away. I almost feel bad saying this, but I'm glad the police shot and killed the gunman. No insanity pleas and no drawn out trial for victims to sit through. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269515 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:42:00 +0000 DillonLion 269515@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Jacks: I think it is a loaded subject which we probably have differing views on. The knife was just one example (could have been a bomb or chemicals or other things). But perhaps the ease of the gun and the ability to shoot from a distance is an issue that needs reform, like you said. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269513 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:41:11 +0000 mrsjazz 269513@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@highwire: @Mrs. Jacks:<br /> From the NYPost:</p> <p>Eeerily, just minutes before the mayhem, Mayor Bloomberg was warning about the dangers of “too many guns on the streets” on his weekly radio show.</p> <p>“The argument guns don’t kill people, people kill people is one of the most disingenuous things you can say,” he said shortly before 9 a.m. while discussing tougher guns laws being proposed in Albany.</p> <p>“It does take a person to pull the trigger, but if they didn’t have the gun... We are the only developed country in the world with this problem.”</p> <p>Read more: <a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/shot_at_empire_state_building_Ycd08ZMPwDQf7r8qSKX3yO#ixzz24TUVQ8EW" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/shot_at_empire_state_building_Ycd08ZMPwDQf7r8qSKX3yO#ixzz24TUVQ8EW</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/several-people-shot-outside-empire-state-building#post-269500 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:36:51 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 269500@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@highwire: I highly doubt there would be so many injured or killed with a knife. And it gives people a chance to overpower the guy if he doesn't have such a lethal weapon. I just think we need to be talking about it because it's getting bad. </p>