https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Mon, 21 Sep 2026 08:03:40 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-help-please-1#post-2765781 Mon, 07 Aug 2017 20:25:35 +0000 Goldengirl 2765781@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SweetiePie: Thanks lady. My issue with just leaving him during the day is that it was getting out of control. Yesterday it was over an hour, and he was beyond hysterical, like hyperventilating. And I know him and know that he wasn't going to fall asleep from that state, unlike at night when he has the added sleep pressure. So I just feel like I don't know what to do.</p> <p>Doing nights and naps separate is what I did the first time and what I'd prefer to do... I'm just not sure what to do for naps now though because I feel like I'm out of soothing techniques. Do I just do naps in the stroller like I had to months ago? Ugh. He was seriously such a good sleeper like two seconds ago, this is all so frustrating to me even though I know it's to be expected. @gingerbebe: I was thinking extinction burst, but is that typical so early in the training? Last time something similar happened to us after several nights of no crying, which I thought is how it usually happens. Also it's now been over 24 hours of this... does the "burst" usually last that long? What did you do to get your son past the regression, did it just get better on its own? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-help-please-1#post-2765763 Mon, 07 Aug 2017 19:08:10 +0000 gingerbebe 2765763@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yep was just coming to say extinction burst. 8 months sucks in general there's a big leap and stranger danger and separation anxiety - started at around 7.5 months for DS2 and lasted a month. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-help-please-1#post-2765757 Mon, 07 Aug 2017 18:52:18 +0000 SweetiePie 2765757@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Goldengirl: I would probably work on night sleep first and then do nap. I think doing it all at once is probably really really stressful for all of you and could get you into a pattern of overtiredness that hurts your efforts (i.e. Makes him even harder to settle). But that's just my opinion. I did read it somewhere at some point but don't remember where - just that I agreed with the logic. </p> <p>To answer your question above when it is time to nap train (not on behalf of @2PeasinaPod:, but how I would answer) - yes. I would leave him in there for the entire length of the nap or the minimum amount of time you can leave him before a nap is pointless. So if your usual nap goal is 2 hours and he's in there for 1.5 hours and still isn't asleep, that's when I'd throw in the towel. Because if he'd fall asleep after that point it would interfere with bedtime or I'd have to wake him before he gets in a full sleep cycle and that would also be disaster. Then do a super early bedtime. Bedtime for us lately has been closer to 8pm. So if he skipped a nap today he'd be in bed 7pm on the nose, maybe even earlier if it seemed necessary.<br /> Also agree with everything else @2PeasinaPod: said. I know it's gut wrenching, but going in and putting him in the stroller after all of that is just "rewarding" the hour of crying. Consistency is key and any inconsistency is confusing to him. And I want to say unfair but I don't want you to think I'm saying it in a negative way towards you. Just that it's not teaching him anything when you cave, except to cry to get what he wants, so all that crying for you to hear is for nothing. You're much better off just ending the nap AFTER A pre-determined minimum amount of time with no checks. Then doing the next nap or bedtime earlier. Does that make sense?</p> <p>Also, there is something called an extinction burst. That could be what happened on day/night 3. Don't let it rattle you! And @LCTBQE: has experience with this. </p> <p><a href="https://www.preciouslittlesleep.com/extinction-burst/" rel="nofollow">https://www.preciouslittlesleep.com/extinction-burst/</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-help-please-1#post-2765738 Mon, 07 Aug 2017 17:26:30 +0000 Goldengirl 2765738@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@2PeasinaPod: Yes we've tried not checking. We barely do any checks since they don't really do anything. But checking or no checking, he is not settling, he just escalates to a point of no return. If I don't put him in the stroller, what do I do? Just get him and let him be tired all day? (I don't mean that sarcastically-sounding, I'm genuinely asking because I have no idea what to do! :silly: ) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-help-please-1#post-2765705 Mon, 07 Aug 2017 16:03:57 +0000 2PeasinaPod 2765705@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I know that it's hard, but consistency is key. Do the checks escalate him? If they do, have you tried extinction? Checks made our older LO freak out more, so once we put him down, we put him down for good. There were times where nap got really bad and he wouldn't nap, but we tried to stay consistent and continue to do the same things we always do. </p> <p>Try not to put him in the stroller at the end of a CIO session. That shows him that as long as he can hold out, you'll get him and he'll be able to go for a stroller nap. I know it's hard...LO1 had long bouts. LO2 was so much better for us! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-help-please-1#post-2765646 Mon, 07 Aug 2017 14:21:18 +0000 Goldengirl 2765646@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>After a nasty 8-9 month regression and developing some bad habits, we're re-sleep training LO. He did great the first time and we're hoping for success again so he can fall asleep independently.</p> <p>We're doing cry it out with occasional checks which worked well last time. This round the first night he cried 30 minutes then slept through the night. Yay! His morning nap he cried 30 minutes then slept. Afternoon nap barely cried and a long nap. Second night barely cried and slept through again. So it seemed to be working. Then yesterday for his afternoon nap everything went off the rails. He flipped out for over an hour and was hysterical. No settling. We finally put him in the stroller. Ugh. For night we let him cry but this time was a full hour. Ugh. This morning he was hysterical again. Missed his nap. Tried again an hour later. Hysterical and wouldn't sleep. Now in the stroller for his seemingly only nap of the day because I want him to at least get some sleep before we attempt bedtime.</p> <p>Any idea WHY this is happening or have the same thing happen to you? When they get so worked up for a nap that they can't settle what do you usually do? Is he just going on some sort of sleep strike that will pass?</p> <p>I will note that the first time we ST, we only did night and not naps, and eventually naps just got better on their own once he figured out night. But back then, he was smaller, and I was bouncing him/using the pacifier, neither of which I can/want to do for him anymore (and he's not really receptive to those methods anymore anyway). I'm really at a loss and so sad from hearing so much crying the past couple days :( </p>