https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Tue, 21 Jul 2026 09:04:35 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885237 Tue, 21 May 2019 22:46:17 +0000 crazydoglady 2885237@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@muffinsmuffins: Thank you for the explanation! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885215 Tue, 21 May 2019 19:57:05 +0000 ALV91711 2885215@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@crazydoglady: it’s a good thing for coffee. </p> <p>@muffinsmuffins: we did the sleep lady shuffle for him to go to sleep at about 4 months and it worked good. He still can go to bed well it’s just those wake ups. I hope your good nights continue. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885210 Tue, 21 May 2019 19:39:51 +0000 muffinsmuffins 2885210@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@ALV91711: ugh. Sleep training was definitely helpful for us. We didn’t have to do it with our older but friends of ours used a consultant and I think it was worth it just to lay out a plan and have someone to be accountable to. Obviously from this post, it’s not perfect, but we are glad we did it. We actually had to stop on day 3 because we all got sick as well! We re-started and he got a mild cold again but we were able to get through it this time.</p> <p>@crazydoglady: the version we did was to remove sleep crutches like bottle to sleep and paci at night and then put him down awake in the crib after his bedtime routine and sit in a chair beside until he falls asleep. Basically ignore him while he fussed but can provide soothing by saying phrases or patting him every so often if needed. For night wakes, we wait 10 mins of crying before going in to him and then again stay in the chair. Chair beside the crib for 3 nights, 3 nights further away, 3 nights by the door and by the 10th night you leave for them to fall asleep on their own. We also did naps as well but slightly different (not sitting in the chair, just 10 min checks) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885208 Tue, 21 May 2019 19:29:59 +0000 crazydoglady 2885208@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@muffinsmuffins: Whats the sleep lady shuffle? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885207 Tue, 21 May 2019 19:28:30 +0000 crazydoglady 2885207@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@ALV91711: Solidarity. I am so tired. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885179 Tue, 21 May 2019 14:51:17 +0000 ALV91711 2885179@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@muffinsmuffins: he still usually gets up twice a night. I think we are going to have to sleep train soon. The last couple weeks we have all been sick so sleep was miserable. His naps have been getting better. Down to three naps and one is usually over an hour and the other two are short. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885168 Tue, 21 May 2019 13:59:50 +0000 muffinsmuffins 2885168@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@ALV91711: yessss it sucks! I did the morning wake ups this past weekend and now that it’s the workweek again I feel like I’m sleeping in getting up at 6:15! Besides 4:30 am starts, how is sleep going for you guys? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885155 Tue, 21 May 2019 12:05:52 +0000 ALV91711 2885155@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@muffinsmuffins: that is awesome! Hopefully he keeps it up. </p> <p>Over the last 2-3 weeks we’ve had a few 4:30 starts to the day and it is miserable. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885153 Tue, 21 May 2019 11:53:59 +0000 muffinsmuffins 2885153@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@ALV91711: thanks for asking! We stuck with our regular routine and he slept until 5:20 as he had been with no wake ups! So we are happy with that and hope that can become our new normal...and hopefully we can stretch him to 6 am and onwards eventually. </p> <p>@nwm: thanks for this! Glad to know an off night isn’t outside the norm. I think I was panicking since waking at 4:30 makes my brain crazy ha </p> <p>@bhbee: good point. I think we always try to search for some reason things happen but sometimes it’s just weirdness! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885143 Tue, 21 May 2019 10:00:53 +0000 ALV91711 2885143@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@muffinsmuffins: how did last night go? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885027 Mon, 20 May 2019 09:17:38 +0000 nwm 2885027@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I didn't do any formal sleep training programs, but we have done something like the sleep lady shuffle for our kids. My daughter is 11mo and has been sleeping through the night for a few months now, but she does randomly have bad nights where she's up and crying and harder to put back to sleep. I think it's about one out of every ten or more nights. So I would just say, don't despair after only one night! I think it's pretty normal to occasionally have some nights be worse than others (especially if at 8.5 months he's starting new foods pretty regularly). i agree with PPs that i would keep the bottle after bath. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885025 Mon, 20 May 2019 08:58:53 +0000 bhbee 2885025@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@muffinsmuffins: I’m with @ALV91711: - I wouldn’t worry about the sleep association at all unless he is literally falling asleep while eating (clearly not the case). I nursed all my kids before bed and it never caused a problem once I got them sttn. I find it very unlikely that’s your missing link! </p> <p>I do think sleep issues can just be unknowable some nights and you just get through it. Whatever you were doing worked, it will work again and it won’t be starting from scratch. Sleep issues always feel so awful in the moment but I think it will improve! Good luck! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885014 Mon, 20 May 2019 07:41:55 +0000 ALV91711 2885014@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I’m no sleep expert but I’m with you in leaving the bottle where it is. If he’s having a story after and going to bed fully awake I wouldn’t think that would be an association with going to sleep. </p> <p>I hope tonight is better. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885013 Mon, 20 May 2019 07:29:36 +0000 muffinsmuffins 2885013@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bhbee: thanks so much for responding. The alleged purpose of the bottle first is so that he doesn’t associate feeding to sleep...which he is wide awake during his bottle now as it is and we have a book and song before he goes in his crib. So we also weren’t really sure why to switch but now I’m like oh crap what if that’s the missing link somehow?!? I think I’m just stewing about it thinking there MUST be a reason for last night when it’s possible there is no reason 🤷🏻‍♀️ </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885010 Mon, 20 May 2019 06:30:48 +0000 bhbee 2885010@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I’m sorry that is stressful! Yes in just my experience they can have a bad night and it doesn’t mean it’s all over. We got my LO sttn around 7.5mo and 2 months later she still has the occasional bad night. I would just keep doing what you’ve been doing, try to keep things the same as possible while you’re gone. </p> <p>I’m not sure I understand the purpose of moving the bottle? But I’m no expert so maybe others will chime in! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/sleep-training-questions-85-months-old#post-2885007 Mon, 20 May 2019 05:21:45 +0000 muffinsmuffins 2885007@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We’ve been working with a sleep consultant for the last couple weeks doing ‘gentle’ sleep training...basically a version of the sleep lady shuffle. We made it through all 9 freakin nights of staying in the room at bed and night wakes and DS (8.5 months) has successfully been putting himself to sleep and sleeping through for the past week. He wakes usually at 5:20/5:30 which isn’t great and the trainer wants us to not get him out of bed til 6, but I can deal with waking after 5 if he sleeps through. We wait 10 mins before responding to him now. </p> <p>Besides day 1 and 2, he hasn’t had any night wakings. UNTIL last night (night 11) He was up crying with 10 min checks from 3 am to 4:45, slept 45, then woke up for good at 5:30. I have no clue WTF happened but I’m feeling really discouraged and upset since he was doing so well. We are supposed to go visit my parents this weekend out of town and I’m panicking we will all be up all night and wake everyone up. </p> <p>The trainer has been suggesting for a couple days to switch his bedtime bottle to before bath instead of after to see if that helps with the early wakings. We’ve been reluctant to change it up because it WAS working. Now I don’t know what to do or whether I should change anything. We are supposed to keep communicating with her for another 3 days but we were actually going to tell her today that we were all good and happy to just be on our own now! :meh: </p> <p>Questions:<br /> -does anyone do the order of bottle, bath, bed? I’m worried he will be all wired up if we do that or won’t eat as much. He is fully awake going into the crib for nap and night and no paci, only his lovey.<br /> -could this be the dreaded extinction burst? I didn’t think it happened this ‘late’?<br /> -I guess I’m naive but I thought from what our trainer said that sleep will usually just get better and better. A quick wake here and there but not like what happened last night. After sleep training, did you have HORRIBLE nights still every so often? (Besides extenuating circumstances like illness and teething)<br /> -did you have to re-train from the very start? I’m dreading this because it freaking sucked.</p> <p>I’m looking for commiseration and also WWYD in my shoes? </p>