https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sat, 09 May 2026 10:56:50 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1376392 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:59:43 +0000 marionberry 1376392@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mamamagpie: I just wanted to say my supply dropped about the same length of time after going back to work and I stressed out but it has since recovered so this may just be a phase. Don't let it stress you out. Just do what you can and supplement with formula if necessary. Hugs mama! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1376205 Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:03:04 +0000 MamaMagpie 1376205@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jetsa: oh wow! I don't know how I'd feel about the daycare provider being so pushy! And that makes total sense about them not realizing they're full if the flow is too fast.</p> <p>@brownie: &lt;3 </p> <p>@avivoca: I'm with you on totally seeing a difference when I drink a ton of water vs not quite enough -- it makes me marvel at our bodies, really. When is your 4 month check up? Let me know how it goes!</p> <p>@Kemma: I didn't know that, that makes me feel a lot better! Thank you for telling me that!!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1373936 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:31:55 +0000 Kemma 1373936@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jetsa: @avivoca: FWIW I had to eat HEAPS of food to keep my supply up and I'm still eating oatmeal for breakfast at fifteen months pp :-)</p> <p>@MamaMagpie: 4-6 months is quite often the age when babies will either gain or drop towards their natural percentile based on their genetics so providing your LO doesn't drop too many more percentiles you might not have an issue :-) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1373354 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:07:23 +0000 jetsa 1373354@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@avivoca: yes, if I could tone up it would make a huge difference! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1373342 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:03:01 +0000 avivoca 1373342@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jetsa: Exactly. I've only got 15 pounds to go, so I'm going to focus on eating healthy foods, drinking a crap ton of water, and toning up. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1373336 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:00:53 +0000 jetsa 1373336@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@avivoca: it sucks but oh well. Maybe when I wean him I can lose the weight ;) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1373323 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:58:31 +0000 avivoca 1373323@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jetsa: I'm giving up on trying to lose weight too. My supply has tanked this week. This morning I barely got three ounces combined, and I usually get 5 or 6. I'm celebrating with a large sandwich today. I feel better already.</p> <p>@MamaMagpie: I'm glad to read your update! I've noticed that if I don't keep up on the calories/water, I don't produce enough. I'm a little worried about what they will say at our 4 month appointment, since H has only gained a pound in a month and a half. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1373295 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:49:49 +0000 brownie 1373295@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMagpie: This is a great update (really it is). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1373283 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:45:17 +0000 jetsa 1373283@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMagpie: I thought the same thing but from what I've researched unless you are doing paced feedings (which she doesn't do!) they'll eat and because the bottle is quick not realize they're full until after they're long past it. Also my dr office said absolutely no more than 32 oz a day. I have no idea how much J is getting but if he gets 25 at daycare plus 6-7 feeds at home its more than that! The dr office suggestion was no more than 4 oz every 4 hours. Daycare lady didn't like that and says he's unhappy so she feeds 5 oz every 3 hours. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1373220 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:29:41 +0000 MamaMagpie 1373220@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lemondrop: thank you :) And, yes, H definitely figured out he preferred the instant gratification of the bottle! E are now using Dr Brown's with the slowest flow nipple (like you @jetsa!) and he seems fine with it and also doesn't get as frustrated at the breast. </p> <p>@jetsa: that's crazy about the over feeding! This might be a dumb question, but I thought babies wouldn't eat if they weren't hungry? I keep telling my DH that you can't overfeed a baby because they just won't eat if they aren't hungry...now I'm confused because 25oz in 9 hours is definitely a lot! Hmmm maybe it was just EBF? And yah, I've totally given up on these remaining 12lbs for now -- not only do I want to keep my calories up for bub, I just don't have the mental energy! </p> <p>We had H's four month check on Wednesday and he grew 2.25" but only gained 2lbs. His ped isn't *worried* but wants us to come in for a weight check at 5 months. He said that growth in length and head circumference is a better indicator of getting enough food, but little man dropped from the 44th percentile in weight to just under the 20th and of course I'm disturbed by that big of a drop. His advice was to continue doing everything I can to keep my supply up (food, water, fenugreek, pumping, nursing on demand, etc) but to offer 2oz of formula after nursing sessions if I feel like he's not satisfied. </p> <p>Fingers crossed I can keep trudging along until he's 6 months! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1372989 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:27:08 +0000 jetsa 1372989@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lemondrop: I have the same issue at home. I thought it was just me! How weird.</p> <p>@MamaMagpie: one issue I've had is overfeeding. My daycare lady gave J 25 ounces in 9 hours one day and used a different bottle than he's used to. We use dr brown and the slowest nipple they have. After a discussion with his dr and the daycare lady she now just uses what I pump (about 15 oz). Also I've completely given up on trying to lose weight I eat a ton of food everyday and it helps. Finally a not stressed mama is a better one so do what you need to do to take care of yourself. :heart: breastfeeding is the absolute hardest thing I've ever done. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1372592 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 01:56:12 +0000 lemondrop 1372592@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMagpie: sorry, missed your question- glad you guys are still going :) </p> <p>What worked for us was Avent bottles (just came with a free sample, not too many parts, fit my pump, so I went with it!) with MAM nipples (recommended here on HB, shaped like a human nipple)- we used the 0 and 1 level flow nipples- basically the newborn or very young infant nipples. Yes, it took a long time to feed, but I didn't want him figuring out that bottle feeding was easier- these babies are too smart! </p> <p>After a while, I had next to no luck pumping at home when he was around, I had to be pretty engorged to pump anything at home, but at work I guess I was in another frame of mind and it worked better. </p> <p>Hang in there, and mainly just take care of yourself- the better you take care of yourself, the better you will be able to take care of H :heart: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1372590 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 01:46:08 +0000 MamaMagpie 1372590@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jetsa: I hadn't remembered that, I will ask him. Thank you &lt;3</p> <p>We continue to trudge along...things haven't gotten worse but they haven't gotten better. We switched bottles and it seems to have helped a bit, and I've been obsessive about eating every three hours and started measuring my water intake again. </p> <p>Thanks again for all of your support and advice, love you Bees! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1370579 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:31:05 +0000 jetsa 1370579@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMagpie: :heart: :heart: what about Reglan if your doc won't prescribe Domperidrone? That is what my cnm recommended. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1362351 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:35:28 +0000 MamaMagpie 1362351@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Kemma: You are so sweet. I asked my OB about it already and he said the FDA has asked them not to prescribe it :shocked:<br /> @illumina: Thanks, lady, it means a lot. We can cry together :(<br /> @sea_bass: that sounds amazing! I'm definitely going to look into it, thank you!<br /> @brownie: usually it's about 3oz per session, so about 9oz a day. But that's only when I'm not with him...when I'm home and trying to nurse as well as pump, I get nada. I guess 9oz is better than nothing?<br /> @MamaMoose: thank you so much, that does give me hope! Do you remember how long that rough patch was? Did you do anything specific to get through it other than just persevere?<br /> @irene: I know you're right, and I so appreciate that!<br /> @ChelseaRose: that's a good point about the cover and not obsessing...I totally do. I watch what seems like tiny droplets drip in and get frustrated, which I'm sure does not help me. I try to pump every 2-3 hours, but had two days in a row that I went 4 hours :(<br /> @char54: thank you so much &lt;3 I really want the dang domperidone but my OB won't prescribe it, and I guess because of that it has me worried as to why...<br /> @rahlyrah: &lt;3 I know you're right, and I just need to focus on all of the other wonderful ways we bond together, because I know it's not just because I nurse him<br /> @lemondrop: you are so kind, thank you &lt;3 Can I ask what nipples/bottles you used? My DH and aunt are the only others who feed him and I know they wouldn't mind if feedings to longer. And that's a good idea about setting a reminder on my phone! Ha, you'd think I'd be able to remember to feed myself, but alas, sometimes it just doesn't happen.<br /> @lamariniere: thank you so much &lt;3 &lt;3 </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1361296 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:35:43 +0000 lamariniere 1361296@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Big hugs mama! I don't have any advice but don't beat yourself up. You are definitely not failing and you have a gorgeous little guy. :heart: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1361042 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:23:12 +0000 lemondrop 1361042@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>H is a very lucky little guy who is and will be bonded to his mama no matter how he gets his food. Worrying over nursing and supply issues is so stressful, I'm sorry you are going through this.</p> <p>Slow flow nipples on the bottles were a big part of our success of switching between bottle and boob regularly. Whoever was bottle feeding him just had to deal with feedings taking a while.</p> <p>Maybe set a timer our alarm to remind you to grab a handful of food? Getting hungry isn't just rough on you physically, but mentally too.</p> <p>You have to think about what will make your family happiest in the long run. Also remember that it doesn't have to be all or nothing, feel out what situation is going to keep mama happy- everyone else will be ok if you are. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1361016 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:13:30 +0000 Ra 1361016@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I was devestated when I dried up much earlier than I had planned. It is ok to cry and grieve for a while. </p> <p>That being said, it really is nice to have my body back. I still bond with LO over the bottle, snuggles before bedtime, and while playing. He still turns to his mama for comfort when he is hurt or sad. </p> <p>I am sorry you are hurting. :heart: You are a fabulous mama! Your boobs don't dictate how amazing you are. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360932 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:29 +0000 Charm54 1360932@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>You are a fabulous, wonderful mother. Your son is so loved and that is the most important part!</p> <p>As a side note, a prescription for domperidone really helped boost my supply. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360922 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:37:43 +0000 ChelseaRose 1360922@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMagpie: I work 10-hour days and he would usually get three 4-4-.5 ounce bottles while I was gone. The premie nipple made him more satisfied with the amount and made him work for it more. With a regular nipple he could drink a bottle in five minutes. The first time he had a premie nipple it took him between 15-20, which allowed him to enjoy sucking longer and feel full. </p> <p>Also, for pumping make sure you are simultaneously massaging your breasts and wear a nursing cover so you're not sitting and obsessing over how much you are getting. Are you pumping enough times? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360816 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:46:02 +0000 irene 1360816@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Big hugs. I was there. I was broken.</p> <p>A friend of mine told me something that I thought was very helpful. One day, your baby will grow into a little toddler/child who will hold your hand, make you draw 20 buses, hug you, smiles and runs to you and screams mommy, when he fell he'd cry and run to mommy and mommy alone, and just no one else in the world is better than you in his eyes. Then you'd look back, and you'd realize the bonding for breastfeeding is very small compared to what you will have. I couldn't relate to that back then because I was so heartbroken, but I am here now, and she can not be more right about that. </p> <p>Big hugs mommy...! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360802 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:40:57 +0000 MamaMoose 1360802@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We went through a very similar period when I went back to work. LO would get SO frustrated when we would nurse in the evening after having bottles all day. As tough as it was to get through eventually things got better. As she got older she didn't need to nurse as frequently, and I think she started to understand the difference between breast and bottle. You have to do what works best for you but I just wanted to give you some hope that if you want to stick it out it won't be like this forever. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360785 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:27:25 +0000 brownie 1360785@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMagpie: 3 oz all day or 3 oz per pumping session so 6 or 9 a day? I know other than the first morning pump while nursing, that I didn't get much more than that. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360678 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 03:57:59 +0000 sea_bass 1360678@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't know if this is even helpful or what you're looking for.. But... I stated taking a calcium and vit D supplement called Adcal (in the UK) and was alarmed by how much it boosted my supply. If I go 4+ hours without a feed I'm very engorged. You wouldn't need a script to get it and it may help you. Best of luck. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360673 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 03:41:44 +0000 illumina 1360673@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Just want to give you a big hug because supply issues are stressing me out so much right now and it probably won't be long until we're there with you. Just remember you're a great mama to H however you feed him :heart: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360632 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:56:59 +0000 Kemma 1360632@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Breast or bottle, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter because you're a fabulous mama!!! </p> <p>Have you considered or would you be open to trying Domperidrone at all? I know a few of the HB ladies have had success with it and one of the girls in my coffee group managed to pump half her LO's intake for six months while on it. </p> <p>Another thought might be to try and add in another nursing or pumping session during the night for the extra stimulation?</p> <p>Hugs Mama! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360629 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:45:17 +0000 MamaMagpie 1360629@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@brownie: I dislike pumping, too, and it's especially frustrating because I get barely 3oz every time, so I know it's not even enough for him. But I keep at because some breastmilk is better than none, in my mind.<br /> @Greentea: I try to eat as well rounded as possible, although I have days when I know I haven't eaten enough. I feel so guilty when that happens and I am so mad at myself for it. I feel like I'm letting him down, but I'm so busy with work that before I know it it's been six hours and I haven't eaten anything.<br /> @Dagny: thank you, that is really sweet of you to say<br /> @ChelseaRose: did the change in nipples change how many oz your LO took at a time? I might try that... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360610 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:57:15 +0000 ChelseaRose 1360610@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We went through a brief period of this and started using only premie nipples for Dr. Brown's bottles. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360588 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:24:40 +0000 Dagny 1360588@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't have anything helpful to say, but I think it's totally fine to be sad about this. Just let yourself feel whatever you're feeling, but know you are (obviously) a good mom because you care about bonding and taking care of your baby. :-) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-beginning-of-the-endim-so-sad#post-1360570 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:12:12 +0000 Greentea 1360570@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MamaMagpie: oh I am sorry :( you can still do snuggles! Are you eating a lot, well rounded meals? </p>