https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sat, 18 Apr 2026 22:35:02 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452294 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 20:50:40 +0000 mrswin 2452294@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: :grin: I don't like confrontation so this might be a way to get you what you need without the battle </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452266 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 20:19:53 +0000 Freckles 2452266@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: I completely agree. Good luck with your talk. I know what you mean about not wanting to get the teacher in trouble! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452253 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:58:53 +0000 Applesandbananas 2452253@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Freckles: I adore the director, she's very creative and genuinely wants to support the families at her center. I don't think the teacher is intentionally being malicious in her actions, but she often acts as though her hands are tied (and in so many cases, with state regs, they really are, but that isn't the case here, she just thinks he needs that nap) but the director has more experience with working around the regs, to find solutions that are in compliance, but that also support the wishes of the families. I don't want to get his teacher in trouble, but I do want her to get on board with this because it's having a pervasive effect on our family life, his behavior at school, his participation levels in his EI appointments, etc. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452252 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:57:43 +0000 Mrs. Lion 2452252@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: yeah, I think it's absolutely necessary that daycare work with you. You are the parent and they need to default to what your family needs. I can see letting him take a 45 minute to an hour nap, because sometimes kids get more worn out at school than at home. But 3 hours is even too long for my high sleep needs kid. We are having the same problem and when I wake him up after 2 hours all is fine. </p> <p>I was suggestino the benadryl assuming bedtime was a struggle! Just something to keep in mind as opposed to an epic bedtime battle. Sorry you are going through this...Sleep issues such man! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452250 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:53:27 +0000 Freckles 2452250@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: I would definitely talk to the director at this point. Although I am a firm believer in addressing issues with the teacher, it isn't happening. I think @mrswin's idea is a great one too! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452248 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:52:25 +0000 Applesandbananas 2452248@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: we haven't, we tried melatonin with not much luck. Today he didn't nap and went down in less than 10 minutes, was asleep by 7:35. No tantrums, no tears, no melatonin, no antics, he just laid down with me, snuggled up and zonked out. This evening wasn't even that bad in terms of behavior/grumpiness. There was a little defiance, but that's par for the course no matter how much sleep he gets. He will typically sleep 11-13 hours on a day he doesn't nap and that is without wake-ups, which is why I'm so desperate for daycare to cooperate! 10 minutes to fall asleep and STTN for 11-13 hours vs. a holy epic tantrum meltdown disaster of a three hour bedtime... No contest!</p> <p>If he STTN tonight and doesn't nap again tomorrow, and STTN Sunday night, I'm hoping they'll be more willing to give it another go. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452233 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:18:06 +0000 Mrs. Lion 2452233@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: have you tried benadryl as a reset to an earlier bedtime? We have had to do this and it works really well for us. Our pediatrician is the one who recommended it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452230 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:15:54 +0000 Applesandbananas 2452230@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrswin: that's a really good idea! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452222 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:04:34 +0000 mrswin 2452222@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: Could you schedule his EI sessions during "nap time" to sort of force the issue? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452204 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 18:41:31 +0000 Applesandbananas 2452204@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Freckles: just the teacher at this point, I think escalating to the director will make things happen. We won't change daycares, this is one of the best in the area and extremely convenient for his EI therapy (I can be there in a couple minutes so it makes attending all of his therapy sessions possible). It's also been an overall good fit for him. There have been some bumps in the road, but we've been able to work through it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452198 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 18:27:50 +0000 Freckles 2452198@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Is this the director you're talking to or the teacher? By this point I would address the director. Obviously it would take some time to adjust!</p> <p>Have you also thought about changing daycares? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452129 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 16:16:31 +0000 youboots 2452129@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: Totally. @Cherrybee: said it better than I did. She works for you. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452126 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 16:09:37 +0000 Applesandbananas 2452126@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@youboots: I don't even think it's my convenience, it's just not even healthy for my nearly-3yo LO to go down at midnight. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452120 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 16:01:02 +0000 youboots 2452120@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: sounds like she is trading your convenience (not sure if this is the right work) for hers. I think you need to straight up tell her she needs to give it a week or two. You are the Mother. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452115 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 15:58:19 +0000 Applesandbananas 2452115@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Cherrybee: I agree 100000%. Last Monday, he'd woken up cheerful after 12 solid hours of sleep and I took him to daycare and told the teacher he had slept wonderfully the night before due to having no nap on Sunday and me fighting through the hell on earth that was Saturday after he stayed up super late and didn't give him a nap, etc. AND SHE LET HIM SLEEP 2.5 HOURS! So, I kind of feel like she should've listened on Monday when the afternoon wouldn't have been a nightmare. </p> <p>There have been major behavioral issues that have come up in the period that this last nap dropping saga has been going on and the teacher is like "I don't know why this is happening..." Uh, maaaaaaybe because his sleep is hell?! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452105 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 15:44:44 +0000 Astro Bee 2452105@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm sure I read something that said that children that don't get enough sleep at night were more likely to develop health problems that could affect them later in life. I agree with @CherryBee that that's their job, and they should respect your wishes, and meet your LO's needs. So far as I know, the only way of making sure your LO sleeps earlier at night is fixing his nap. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452097 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 15:33:28 +0000 winniebee 2452097@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My kid stopped mapping at school before the others. He read books quietly or did puzzles. That has to be an option. I would absolutely cut the nap if he were up until 10-11. I go to bed by 10 so that would just not work for me! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452095 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 15:23:25 +0000 Cherrybee 2452095@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: Its not just about being grumpy... its about getting quality night sleep that helps him to solidify everything he has learned that day and restores him physically. You PAY the daycare teacher damn good money to look after your son and if that means entertaining him while he's *grumpy * for a few days, until his body clock resets, so be it. Ugh. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452090 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 15:17:13 +0000 youboots 2452090@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>T does not nap when the other kids do at daycare- she's only there 9-1 and their naptime is at noon. She naps at home in the afternoons. Someone is playing with her quietly during nap time when I pick her up. I received no pushback. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452087 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 15:14:12 +0000 Applesandbananas 2452087@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Astro Bee: if it were up to me, his bedtime would be much earlier but I feel like I've exhausted all our options for getting him to bed sooner (crying it out, melatonin, revamping bedtime routine, etc.) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452086 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 15:13:08 +0000 Applesandbananas 2452086@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Cherrybee: he says that it's unfair to the teacher to have LO be grumpy because there are 19 other kids in the class and that "we" can deal with the grumpiness. We = me. I'm going to discuss it with the director and have the director address it with the teacher. Maybe there are other things LO can do during that time, though I am almost certain going to an older classroom is out of the question. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452078 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 14:54:56 +0000 Cherrybee 2452078@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Applesandbananas: I'm furious for you! How could he undermine you like that? If he was the one dealing with a hysterical, overtired child every evening, I'm sure he wouldn't have been so quick to shrug it off and say "do whatever"..... You're going to need to talk to daycare again and have a stern word with your DH too. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2452025 Sat, 06 Feb 2016 12:25:01 +0000 Astro Bee 2452025@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Sounds like he definitely doesn't need that nap, or at least he doesn't need to nap for long. I've been doing a lot of research on sleep lately, and we have LO's nap and nighttime sleep exactly where it needs to be. He isn't at daycare yet (he starts in 2 months at a yr old), so we don't have anyone to fight us on this, although my parents were not supportive at first. It was critical that DH got on board, and it was a little rough for a couple of weeks (we sleep trained and nap trained at the same time). The one thing that I've noticed is that the proper amount of daytime sleep begets the proper amount of nighttime. </p> <p>My advice is to get them to cut back on the amount of sleep, as a compromise, and he will start going to bed earlier at night, and therefore be less needing to nap during the day. Then maybe they will be wiling to cut it out if he's showing less need for it? Kind of a phased approach. Worth a try. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2451832 Fri, 05 Feb 2016 23:47:45 +0000 Applesandbananas 2451832@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>So Wednesday night, LO went down at midnight and was up at 7-7:30ish for daycare. Obviously he was REALLY GRUMPY in the morning. I told the daycare teacher that the napping had to stop and laid out the past few weeks' struggles and compromised on not napping more than 30 minutes max. </p> <p>OF COURSE, Thursday afternoon would suck. Anyone could see that coming, but in hopes of resetting his schedule, it needed to happen. Thursday afternoon, DH did pick up and the teacher said the afternoon was crappy, he was grumpy, etc. and apparently DH said forget it, let him nap. </p> <p>Friday, DH did pick up and drop off and I asked him if the teacher mentioned naps. He said she didn't and didn't tell me that he had told her to let him nap as long as he wanted (we don't get daily sheets in his class). </p> <p>It wasn't until 11:30, after 30 minutes of LO losing his ever-loving mind, and nearly 3 hours into trying to put him to bed, that DH relayed that he told the teacher she could let him nap however long. </p> <p>I feel like I'm alone in caring about LO getting good sleep and being on a decent schedule. We've been trying melatonin and it's not helping, he's so so so out of whack and always grumpy at home, grumpy at school, struggling to fall asleep, and we're all miserable because of it.</p> <p>We are super busy on the weekends and even then, he doesn't nap, so if he's not napping after the trampoline park, the zoo, etc., I'm not buying that he's oh so tired from the school activities. I think he naps well there because everyone naps at the same time with white noise/soft music and no one is allowed to get up from their cots. </p> <p>I'm so frustrated. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2444845 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 14:10:00 +0000 T.H.O.U. 2444845@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yea I would talk to them about finding quiet things he can do or waking him after a certain time period. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2444836 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 14:05:13 +0000 Applesandbananas 2444836@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Cherrybee: @Freckles: he definitely needs the nap after staying up late, which isn't helping my case! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2444832 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 14:02:11 +0000 Freckles 2444832@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Omg!! I would definitely ask if he can sit and read quietly during that time, or if he does need a nap, if they can limit it to 30 minutes. Of course he needs a nap after going to sleep at midnight!</p> <p>DD is approaching 4 and i have asked them to limit naps to 30 minutes, otherwise she can read quietly on her cot. They put her in a spot that gets a little more light so she can read.</p> <p>It's obviously easier for teachers to have the kids nap, but it's not fair to the parents (or him). I would really press them on this issue if it were me. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2444774 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 13:28:18 +0000 Cherrybee 2444774@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>What a nightmare! My inlaws have E three days a week and we had a bit of trouble convincing them when E dropped her nap. It all boiled down to the fact that they really need the break! They initially said that they would enforce "quiet time in the cot" but then E fell asleep and they decided that this meant she still needed her nap. A cycle then developed where she would become so exhausted from the lack of night time sleep, she would actually need her nap at their house. Then, Thurs to Sun, she would have no nap and sleep well at night..... We ended up putting our foot down and saying no naps and no cot time. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2444721 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 12:53:42 +0000 LadyPantaloons 2444721@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Exact same thing with DD this summer. I ended up having to switch daycares whose policy allowed for quiet time instead of full naps. Pretty drastic but it was ruining everything. Our family was at it's whits end. 3 days after switching daycare and cutting naps she was in bed by 8:30. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/the-last-nap-and-childcare#post-2444709 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 12:40:50 +0000 Applesandbananas 2444709@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@HappyBaker: I don't think he's allowed to go to the next room up because of licensing requirements, though I'm not 100% sure. The teacher's preference is that he absolutely naps, so maybe I need to push the issue more. </p>