https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Thu, 30 Apr 2026 04:33:48 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment/page/2#post-2602752 Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:51:37 +0000 Mrsbells 2602752@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: hahaha funny theory. its definitely what would have happened in Scandal though. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment/page/2#post-2602683 Thu, 11 Aug 2016 14:52:14 +0000 Adira 2602683@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I found this analysis for why Trump says some of the crazy things he says to be very interesting:</p> <p><a href="http://www.vox.com/2016/8/10/12423966/trump-conservative-guns-abortion" rel="nofollow">http://www.vox.com/2016/8/10/12423966/trump-conservative-guns-abortion</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment/page/2#post-2602676 Thu, 11 Aug 2016 14:37:07 +0000 krispi 2602676@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mama Bird: Not a Trump supporter at all, but I don't believe he means a word of what he says either. I do think he's a marketing genius. He's figured out what to say to appeal to a certain segment of the population. So he keeps saying it for publicity and ego. Who knows what he'd actually do if elected. And here's hoping we don't have to find out! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment/page/2#post-2602059 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 19:05:08 +0000 tlcbaby 2602059@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: The whole thing is so crazy at this point, I wouldn't be totally surprised if this were true! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment/page/2#post-2602057 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:58:26 +0000 ShootingStar 2602057@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@lovehoneybee: There was actually an article floating around by a former staffer of his that said he started it off as a sort of protest against mainstream politics and then his ego took over when he kept winning. She said in her opinion he was never expecting to get this far and is totally unqualified. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment/page/2#post-2602056 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:57:54 +0000 tlcbaby 2602056@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I am in no way, shape, or form a Trump supporter, but I think it's a pretty big leap to assume he was referring to assassination. Regardless, he seems to be saying a lot of things lately that are helping him out at all. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment/page/2#post-2602055 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:55:51 +0000 arosebyany 2602055@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: not to be a conspiracist, but I have always thought this! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment/page/2#post-2602043 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:33:43 +0000 lovehoneybee 2602043@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: @Mama Bird: @NorCalWayfarer: My theory is he entered for fun, realized he could say whatever the hell he wanted and win, then his ego took over. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2602040 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:22:29 +0000 sunny 2602040@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsSCB: I just don't understand how Trump supporters can say "Never Hillary -- she's a liar, she's crooked", yet continue to support Trump who has been proven to be a liar over and over and over again. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2602031 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:56:35 +0000 MrsSCB 2602031@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I just read this -- of course Trump tweeted (his favorite mode of communication 🙄) that no conversation happened. But I tend to believe the secret service, and just about anyone, over trump. </p> <p>Secret Service spoke to Trump campaign about 2nd Amendment comment - CNNPolitics.com - <a href="http://www.cnn.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com</a><br /> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/trump-second-amendment/index.html?campaign_id=A100&#038;campaign_type=Email" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/trump-second-amendment/index.html?campaign_id=A100&#038;campaign_type=Email</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2602028 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:52:42 +0000 Mrs. Pen 2602028@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mediagirl: I keep saying the same thing- that he's like a twelve year old boy... Yet most 12 year olds I know are way more tolerable than he is. He throws tantrums and is defensive like a two year old.<br /> I'm curious as a fellow conservative who might be getting your vote? I feel so very conflicted this election.<br /> I even voted democratic in the primaries! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601991 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:21:53 +0000 Mrsbells 2601991@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>The entire world is in shock that Americans actually selected Trump as the republican nominee. Nothing he says surprises me because he is ignorant about everything </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601988 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:17:15 +0000 Madison43 2601988@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: that was my theory for a very long time. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601976 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:41:33 +0000 Mrs. Turtle 2601976@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I saw this on Facebook today and I think it does a good job of explaining why "just a joke" doesn't make his comments in any way acceptable for anyone, much less the president. </p> <p>"Twitterstorm by a smart guy taking down the idea that 'only joking' means you're off the hook for menacing and violent language. Share away. I think it's really important for removing Trump's and anyone else's excuses. Words have power, including the power to harm, and to incite others to harm, as we saw with Sarah Palin's hate speech before Gabby Giffords was shot...... Thank you Jason Steed. He writes:</p> <p>I wrote my PhD dissertation on the social function of humor (in literature &amp; film) and here's the thing about "just joking."</p> <p>You're never "just joking." Nobody is ever "just joking." Humor is a social act that performs a social function (always).</p> <p>To say humor is social act is to say it is always in social context; we don't joke alone. Humor is a way we relate/interact with others.</p> <p>Which is to say, humor is a way we construct identity - who we are in relation to others. We use humor to form groups and to find our individual place in or out of those groups. In short, joking/humor is one tool by which we assimilate or alienate.</p> <p>IOW, we use humor to bring people into - or keep them out of - our social groups. This is what humor *does.* What it's for.</p> <p>Consequently, how we use humor is tied up with ethics - who do we embrace, who do we shun, and how/why?</p> <p>And the assimilating/alienating function of humor works not only only people but also on *ideas.* This is important.</p> <p>This is why, e.g., racist "jokes" are bad. Not just because they serve to alienate certain people, but also because they serve to assimilate the idea of racism (the idea of alienating people based on their race). And so we come to Trump.</p> <p>A racist joke sends a message to the in-group that racism is acceptable. (If you don't find it acceptable, you're in the out-group.)</p> <p>The racist joke teller might say "just joking" - but this is a *defense* to the out-group. He doesn't have to say this to the in-group. This is why we're never "just joking." To the in-group, no defense of the joke is needed; the idea conveyed is accepted/acceptable.</p> <p>So, when Trump jokes about assassination or armed revolt, he's asking the in-group to assimilate/accept that idea. That's what jokes do. And when he says "just joking," that's a defense offered to the out-group who was never meant to assimilate the idea in the first place.</p> <p>Indeed, circling back to the start, the joke *itself* is a way to define in-group and out-group, through assimilation &amp; alienation. If you're willing to accept "just joking" as defense, you're willing to enter in-group where idea conveyed by the joke is acceptable. IOW, if "just joking" excuses racist jokes, then in-group has accepted idea of racism as part of being in-group.</p> <p>Same goes for "jokes" about armed revolt or assassinating Hillary Clinton. They cannot be accepted as "just joking."</p> <p>Now, a big caveat: humor (like all language) is complicated and always a matter of interpretation. For example, we might have racist humor that is, in fact, designed to alienate (rather than assimilate) the idea of racism. (Think satire or parody.)</p> <p>But I think it's pretty clear Trump was not engaging in some complex satirical form of humor. He was "just joking." In the worst sense.</p> <p>Bottom line: don't accept "just joking" as excuse for what Trump said today. The in-group for that joke should be tiny. Like his hands.<br /> — Jason P. Steed (@5thCircAppeals) August 9, 2016" </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601974 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:38:33 +0000 Mrs. Lion 2601974@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@NorCalWayfarer: @Mama Bird: Maybe I watch too much Scandal, but this is literally the only scenerio that I can wrap my brain around. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601971 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:36:00 +0000 Mama Bird 2601971@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lion: that would be crazy, but I've read their daughters are great buddies, so who knows! And on that note... I would love to be a fly on the wall in a phone call between Chelsea Clinton and Ivanka Trump after the latest remarks. I mean, how do you explain that your dad said that about your friend's mom? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601969 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:32:03 +0000 NorCalWayfarer 2601969@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think gun violence is a serious matter in this country and not something to joke about (see responses to his comments from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's daughter and the daughter of the principal killed in the Sandy Hook shooting). I also particularly like this response:</p> <p>"Words matter, particularly from those folks who want to be president of the United States. To think that joking about any kind of violence could be funny ... simply reflects a disregard for the impact of violence." Christine Quinn, a former New York City Council speaker.</p> <p>@Mrs. Lion: And yes, I keep telling my friends I think he's just trolling us all. Every last one of us. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601963 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:23:15 +0000 Mrs. Lion 2601963@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Does anyone else secretly think his whole campaign is a hoax? That Hilary had such poor popularity that the only way she could win was if she was running against a completely crazy person? And now that he has the nomination he is turning up the crazy to ensure that he doesn't actually win?</p> <p>This cannot be for real. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601962 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:22:52 +0000 MrsKoala 2601962@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm hoping that he keeps making really awful statements like this so that more and more people realize that he is a maniac and should not be elected president. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601961 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:21:42 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 2601961@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@looch: and I sure hope the Secret Service investigates him just as they would any nut case that said something like that about a presidential nominee. At some point he has to be held accountable for what comes out of his mouth. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601958 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:13:40 +0000 Mama Bird 2601958@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jedeve: my parents (heaven help me) think he's saying all this just for publicity, doesn't mean any of it, and is really a smart guy with leadership potential. I don't deny he's smart, the way a successful robber is smart. But voting for someone because "he doesn't really mean what he says?" Umm, what? What are you voting for, then? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601941 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:45:40 +0000 jedeve 2601941@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think this just exemplifies that he says whatever comes to mind without thinking and will back track later. I'm wondering if any of his supporters (I know there are a few here!) are concerned about this. Does it make you think he might back track on policy? Or is it just rhetoric? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601824 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:42:44 +0000 sunny 2601824@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>He's disgusting and the comments were beyond the pale. I really don't understand how anyone can support him. </p> <p>For all of you who live in states with republican governance, I urge you to write to your congressperson, senator and governor and let them know your thoughts. Perhaps if those politicians knew that people would support them if they decided to denounce Trump, more of them would. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601809 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:27:11 +0000 Bibliolove 2601809@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mediagirl: I hope so!! I am looking forward to election day and watching him get crushed. We all need to vote!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601770 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:33:54 +0000 looch 2601770@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I agree, but not every person on the planet thinks in the same way that you and I do. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601769 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:31:32 +0000 lamariniere 2601769@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@yoursilverlining: very interesting article. </p> <p>It's absolutely appalling. Every week he manages to say something more vile than the previous week. I want to know when the republican establishment (Ryan, McCain, McConnell and co.) will finally denounce him and retract their support. To not denounce Trump is to support him and everything he stands for. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601768 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:31:21 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 2601768@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>He doesn't really want to kill Hillary. He is totally reckless and irresponsible with what he says all.the.time. This latest episode is why people say he lacks the temperment and self-discipline to be President. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601762 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:24:24 +0000 mediagirl 2601762@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>He's disgusting. This is the worst election period ever. He's a freaking 5 year old. I can just see it now - as he watches his poll numbers drop, he will drop out of the race. It's bound to happen. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601745 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:14:50 +0000 lovehoneybee 2601745@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>He's like the guy who yells FIRE in a crowded theater (except you'd get arrested for that) and then afterwards saying that you can't take a joke* </p> <p>*He OBVIOUSLY didn't mean that ALL Mexican immigrants are rapists/drug dealers, just the illegals, geez!</p> <p>*He very clearly DID NOT say that Megyn Kelly was having her period, he just meant she had a nosebleed! How dare you suggest that he suggested such a dirty thing! </p> <p>*He's not suggesting a second amendment gun nut assassinate Hillary Clinton, he OBVIOUSLY just meant they're a powerful voting bloc! </p> <p>Man, John Boehner has to just be laughing his ass off into a bottle of scotch right now having gotten the hell out when he did. Or crying about what his party's become. I know I want to, and I'm a strong liberal. </p> <p>I keep hoping he's just going to SYKE us all, but now I'm just praying that he doesn't get anywhere close to the White House. And as much as I really want to plug my ears and close my eyes to him, I think it's important to know just how vile he (and his supporters) are. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trumps-latest-statement-on-the-2-amendment#post-2601731 Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:04:17 +0000 meredithNYC 2601731@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>It's disgraceful that this kind of rhetoric is becoming less and less shocking. I fear for future elections given how low the discourse has gone this year and I worry for our kids who may grow up thinking this is acceptable. </p>