https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Mon, 18 May 2026 11:07:02 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-1027953 Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:40:40 +0000 cyndistar3 1027953@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Great post! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-1027906 Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:05:45 +0000 runsyellowlites 1027906@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I found a MUCH clearer copy of the info-graphic so I thought I'd add it! (now you can see the initial cesarean risks too!)</p> <p>[attach=1400/13/mrqypm.506x507.vbac-vs-erc.png]</p> <p>ETA: Remember the rupture &amp; success rates were gathered from a study that induced &amp; augmented labor so spontaneous labor rates would have lower ruptures &amp; higher successes. ;) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-1009984 Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:35:22 +0000 runsyellowlites 1009984@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@sea_bass: The recommendation by acog is atleast 18 mths between deliveries. Of course, as mentioned above, the longer your body has time to heal the better.</p> <p>I think your most local ICAN chapter would be the best route... They're great at informing &amp; empowerer at the same time. :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-1009933 Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:21:13 +0000 shellio 1009933@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@sea_bass: The risk of uterine rupture decreases the longer you wait between c section and the implantation of the next pregnancy. A year is standard but if you have a flexible OB group and hospital, they may be willing to push it a little bit. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971470 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:26:14 +0000 honeybear 971470@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@sea_bass: The standard rec in the US seems to be 12-18 months between pregnancies, although that answer varies depending on the doctor. (I've been told 10 mos is long enough and I know some doctors consider even shorter intervals.) ACOG stipulates that a 'short' interval between pregnancies could be a risk factor for decreased success of TOLAC. I don't think they defined 'short', but I don't have the practice bulletin completely memorized! :) If there is an ICAN chapter near you, I recommend checking them out. They're often tapped into the docs/midwives who are really VBAC-friendly. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971390 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 03:09:10 +0000 sea_bass 971390@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@runsyellowlites: yes.. I certainly understand that feeling.. Do you know anything about child spacing and VBACs? We had planned to have our children close together... On the operating table they said to wait a year before TTC. Do you know if time since Caesarian affects VBAC outcomes? Would uterine rupture risks decrease with time since the operation? Sorry, I should look into it but am too traumatized to google anything relating to a c section! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971182 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:24:07 +0000 runsyellowlites 971182@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@sea_bass: I can completely relate, especially considering I believe my cesarean was a very avoidable one. Boo. :( I'm just thankful I started learning this stuff before I "needed" it... I definitely wouldn't have gotten any of this info from the doctors we have here (they're the kind that still say the recommendation is erc &amp; that the risk of rupture is like 5%) :(</p> <p>@Phillybaby2013: If you haven't already check out Jen Kamel's site vbacfacts.com AND vbac.com AND childbirthconnection.org (they have a great erc vs vbac page) ;) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971168 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:17:35 +0000 Phillybaby2013 971168@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>saving this for my VBAC quest folder. Thanks Momma! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971155 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:08:41 +0000 sea_bass 971155@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Thank you. I hate the fact I have to even consider this. Sigh. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971151 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:06:52 +0000 runsyellowlites 971151@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Espion: Wow! Sounds like you've definitely done your homework though &amp; that's the biggest thing that matters! And it would make sense with your history on the CPD. </p> <p>It did take me forever to dilate too (about 24 hrs to dilate a cm &amp; the another 13 to dilate to 4 &amp; then 8 to fully dilate), BUT P stayed high until I was well into labor &amp; I was upright almost the whole time so no cone head for her so we know that it wasn't an issues of having her on my cervix &amp; it just not dilating. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971145 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:03:04 +0000 Espion 971145@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@runsyellowlites: Awesome, thanks! </p> <p>I need them because my teensy baby couldn't make it down far enough to engage the cervix, due to severe cephalopelvic dysproportion. My uterus was working like gangbusters on a perfectly positioned LO for a little more than 30 hours with zero dilation, because E couldn't make it down far enough to engage the cervix. The kid never touched it and he had the craziest conehead. (The only way I dilated was mechanically with a Cook catheter.) My water even broke spontaneously sometime in the middle of labor with absolutely no influence on cervical dilation. </p> <p>Thankfully, I had a great OB and he would have let me continue to labor into the next day if I wanted, but I threw in the towel. Only after we had LO out, was the OB like, "Whoa, I think you made the right decision." </p> <p>I'm glad he gave me the choice, though. I think what happened might have something to do with a serious car wreck I was in when I was 14. I was ejected from the vehicle and landed on my hip. I didn't break anything, but it must've messed with the bony structure somehow, because I think the term "CPD" gets thrown around a little too often as a "cause" or "reason" for sections. Although my mother had to have c-sections for the same reason. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971115 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:50:54 +0000 runsyellowlites 971115@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Espion: Found it! (not sure why you have to have cesareans, but there are moms that have had vba2c &amp; even vba3/4c..... just not sure if you knew that)</p> <p>This graphic is from the ICAN "After a Cesarean" brochure.... here's what it says in the brochure along with the cites:</p> <p>"All VBAC statistics for this to hire are taken from the Mercer &amp; Gilbert study which includes induced and augmented labors. Additional studies have shown lower uterine rupture rates (especially with spontaneous labors) and higher VBAC rates."</p> <p>Three studies are cited:<br /> 1) Mercer, B. M. &amp; Gilbert, S. et al. "Labor outcomes with increasing number of prior vaginal births after cesarean delivery."</p> <p>2) Silver, R. M. &amp; Landon, M. B. et al "Maternal morbidity associated with multiple repeat cesarean deliveries."</p> <p>3) Nisenblat, V., Baraj, S. &amp; Griness, O. B. et al. "Maternal complications associated with multiple cesarean deliveries." </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971094 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:36:32 +0000 runsyellowlites 971094@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Espion: I'd imagine that all the studies are on the vbacfacts site. I've seen all these stats separate, but this is the first time I've seen them all together.</p> <p>I'll see if I can track down the sources :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971079 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:30:15 +0000 Espion 971079@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Did they have a source(s)? I have to have sections from here on out :( so I'd love to see where the stats are from. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971067 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:18:00 +0000 FarmWifeGina 971067@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@runsyellowlites: I've never seen this exact one, but its simplicity and hard, cold facts appeals to me. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971064 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:15:50 +0000 runsyellowlites 971064@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@FarmWifeGina: I'm part of Jen Kamel's vbacfacts group on fb.... One of the moms was asking about it &amp; another mom posted it (sounded like its a common facts graphic that floats around there). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971032 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:56:28 +0000 FarmWifeGina 971032@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Where did you find this? I would love to add this to my bookmark list for doula references! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-971023 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:50:41 +0000 Amelieisme 971023@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Appreciate this too! I had a c section for #1 and am debating what I'll do next go round (assuming there is one) :happy: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-970844 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:56:06 +0000 creativemomma15 970844@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Good info! Thanks! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/vbac-vs-erc#post-970780 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:06:04 +0000 runsyellowlites 970780@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I saw this great info graphic on the vbacfacts group &amp; thought I'd share it for all the previous cesarean moms!</p> <p>Pretty neat to see all the stats! </p> <p>(It's kinda hard to read, but It think it's worth the squinting. tehe) </p> [attach=1400/13/mqo2w3.450x600.18381_647730326766_1338754286_n.jpg]