https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sun, 10 May 2026 02:29:19 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1172752 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:50:13 +0000 googly-eyes 1172752@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>They go through phases, sometimes good sometimes more challenging. But the easier days get easier an the harder ones get more predictable and manageable. It really does get better!</p> <p>Skills can emerge any time after the WW, not necessarily right away: </p> <p>Hang in there!! &lt;3 </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1172579 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:31:52 +0000 Cherrybee 1172579@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Foodnerd81: Yeah, maybe. She is 13 weeks today but going by due date its 12 weeks today so it could be the 12 week wonder week. I thought the skills were supposed to emerge after the fussy bit though? I bought the book and that's how it reads to me. </p> <p>Well she woke up again and started fighting the swaddle, pinging all over the cot like a hyper little glow worm!! We ended up putting her back in her moses basket (inside the cot). So far so good. Sigh. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1172511 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:01:58 +0000 Foodnerd81 1172511@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Cherrybee: is she in a wonder week? She's got a lot of new skills! Swaddling sounds like a good idea- again nothing to lose (except your sanity but I think that's already gone). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1172210 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:42:28 +0000 Cherrybee 1172210@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@rachiecakes: Aaaw!! That's sweet. Yeah, she has been learning a couple of things every day for the last week or so - rolling, pulling to to a standing position, holding and waving her rattle, new sounds and, today, she learned to turn the pages of her fabric book. She is still super clumsy but she knows what she is trying to do. But her sleep - ugh. </p> <p>Its now 8.40 and she's back in her cot, swaddled. She is still fighting sleep though. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1172114 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:25:14 +0000 rachiecakes 1172114@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Cherrybee: I swear, it's like the more skills they learn - rolling, sitting, standing, walking - the harder it is to get them to go to sleep. (sorry!)<br /> At 9.5 months, after I lost all hope, DS finally STTN. I kept waking up to check on him I couldn't believe it. He would still have nights where he'd wake up and want to play, but it was nothing like the crying in frustration. </p> <p>Now he's almost 2 and I may have had DH get him last night so he could sleep next to me, haha.<br /> I think I'm in denial that my little babe is going to be 2! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1172093 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:21:07 +0000 Cherrybee 1172093@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Ugh! Now she's completely refusing to go to bed at all. We did bath, bottle, bed and she slept for 30 minutes then woke up and would not go back to sleep. She gave me a huge smile when I went into her nursery. Agh! We gave up in the end and got her up.... DH thinks we should revert back to the swaddle. She is only rolling front to back, not back to front, so I guess we could. She's driving me crazy. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170871 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:43:44 +0000 mrskc 1170871@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm sorry! That sounds so rough! Hang in there! </p> <p>I would say things got a lot easier once he was around 6 months. That's when he finally started napping longer and more regularly. Unfortunately nighttime sleep has never been good for us. He's one and still wakes frequently. I've just had to lower my expectations and that has made me less frustrated. But I totally get it! I remember being so frustrated and angry at my baby for not napping or sleeping! Then I would feel guilty over getting mad at an innocent baby. *sigh* It always feels like once you get into a groove and figure things out, something changes! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170840 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:35:33 +0000 Cherrybee 1170840@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Foodnerd81: Bahahaha!! No chance!! A few weeks ago, when she was still in our room, she woke at 5am and wouldn't go back to sleep. At twenty past six (how interesting that it's the same times exactly!!), I started sobbing and DH woke and asked if I was okay. I became hysterical about how tired I was so he took DD downstairs for half an hour before getting ready for work. He moaned like crazy for two days about how tired he was because he was "up with the baby". Finally, I snapped and said "you only got up half an hour earlier than you normally do!" and he didn't take to that remark kindly to say the least. No, there's no way he would get up early with her! Besides, he is so groggy from the pills when he first wakes up, getting him out of bed for work is a challenge. He said, a few weeks back, between alarm snoozes, when I suggested he get up (I was feeding DD at the time), "I've got four minutes and I'm having them" and went back to sleep!! I'd have no chance getting him up if he had any kind of option to stay in bed!!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170425 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:33:01 +0000 Foodnerd81 1170425@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Oh I agree with @Mrs. Twine: that baby wearing could be good. I'm lucky the weather is still ok around here because we have days where every single nap is in the moby waking outside. The downside is there is zero me time of course. </p> <p>The thing that really helps me during the awful sleep times is hearing on here that I'm not alone or doing something wrong- it just sucks for lots of people! </p> <p>@mjane: I've been really worried that if C is such a drama queen at less than three months, what is she going to be like as a teenager?? Unfortunately in my family, the high maintenance baby is the most difficult high strung adult, and the sister who was an easy going baby is the most chill adult... </p> <p>@Cherrybee: any chance Dh can get up an hour or so early so you can sleep then, while he cares for her and gets ready? Could he bring his stuff out to the lounge and do everything there? I know he can't get up during the night with his meds. And, do you have any long sleeve tops with the foldover mittens so she can't scratch her face? C does that too and I hate seeing the scratches! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170408 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:18:35 +0000 Smurfette 1170408@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Once you get comfortable and you think in a groove, it is like they are like HAHA, Mommy, I don't think so! And throw you a curve ball. </p> <p>I could be the 4 month sleep regression early. We got hit with it a little over 3 months. And that month till I sleep trained was worse then the newborn days for me, especially cause I was working. </p> <p>Hang in there Mom!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170391 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:04:31 +0000 JoJoGirl 1170391@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>YUP. Things were all rosy and coming around at 3 months and it all fell apart around 4 months. As we approach 6 now things are finally getting better but @blackbird and I were just saying yesterday months 4-5 were kind of the worst sleep-wise. They wake up from their newborn haze, develop object permanence, sleep regression, yadda yadda. Hugs. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170389 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:02:17 +0000 Mrs. Twine 1170389@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>If you're open to babywearing it can be a good workout for her core muscles (similar to tummy time) because they have to adapt their positioning to yours as you move. Sleep will always change in the first few years, and usually from better to worse to better again (although the "better" can get awfully relative). I just try to remember that any time I feel done in by a particular phase that it won't last. It almost always improves before I really can't deal anymore. It will get better. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170388 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:02:13 +0000 Silva 1170388@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>We have always tried to tell ourselves "nothing stays the same." Babies are not consistent (at least mine isn't!). Nothing good lasts, but nothing bad lasts either. Its just a matter of waiting it out. I became amazed with how I could function on such little sleep.<br /> We set our "bare minimums" to save ourselves: some alone time for each of us every week, a date night every month, and she has to go bed before us. We worked really hard to make sure each of these things happened. We can function when we are tired, but we will fall apart without time for ourselves and our marriage- so those were our priorities. If sleep is the biggest priority for you, maybe you have to go to bed earlier for awhile?<br /> At about 5 months she started refusing to sleep alone, so I was back to going to bed with her. At 6 months we felt more comfortable sleep training, and did so because our bare minimum was alone time at night.</p> <p>It will get better. I don't know when. But trust- your 5 year old will not be sleeping this way. Find what you need to do to take care of yourself and your marriage so that you can take care of her.</p> <p>I"m sorry its rough right now. Some babies just love their mamas so much that they want to see them and snuggle all the time :) Thats what I keep telling myself anyway- my daughter does an 11:30, 4:30, and 6 AM wake- and I'm beyond thrilled because its so. much. better. than what it was! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170328 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 05:43:53 +0000 scotchbonnet 1170328@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Cherrybee: no advice but just wanted to say i feel your pain. LO is nearly 10 weeks and wakes up every 58 mins at night. You could set your clock by her. I have tried everything. I know we are still in the newborn days but i am trying not to hold on to any hope that things will get better </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170321 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 05:30:25 +0000 mjane 1170321@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Cherrybee: It was a month, yeah, but it was not all this bad! The first week or so was the worst for sure. (Also we had a really freakishly easy newborn period where she slept constantly and I felt great, so when I say it was worse for than the newborn period for us, take that with an extremely large teaspoon of salt). I agree that it's best to go cold-turkey with swaddle and moses basket! </p> <p>What about ear-plugs &amp; a sleep mask while DH is getting ready? He's up, so he can hear the baby if she cries, and maybe you can get some extra sleep? </p> <p>On a side note, I always think about this when the baby is driving me berserk: a good friend of mine was a miserable baby who screamed for the first 4 months of her life, essentially nonstop. She is now one of the most relaxed and easygoing people I know. Her sister was a dream baby who just cooed and batted her eyes at everyone and is now a high-maintenance hot mess. So when you're in the exhausted throws of it, keep in mind that all this does NOT mean that she's going to torture you for the rest of your days!!! </p> <p>...on another note, funny how the only people on the boards at this time are on GMT... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170315 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 05:11:57 +0000 Cherrybee 1170315@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Kemma: No, yes, yes! No, I'm not up for lying next to her while she naps. I tried it for a while, her in the moses basket next to the bed but it was an exercise in every-ten-minute-dummy-reinsertion. I think being able to see me made it even harder for her to sleep - the slightest bit of visual stimulation and she cannot settle - and, either way, I'm going back to work in 16 weeks so she needs to learn to sleep without me there. </p> <p>We do get out and about but not as often as we used to. The weather has really turned here and it's raining a lot of the time. During the day we do tummy time and practice rolling - she started rolling just over a week ago but she still finds it really hard. We also practice sitting and standing up from lying down and have shake rattle and roll time (we put the song on and have a little dance) wearing the wrist and foot rattles. She kicks about frantically! We also work on holding toys, especially the rattle every day, because she's not so good at that. We play all day. Can you think of anything else I can be doing to wear her out? I'm totally open to new suggestions! </p> <p>@mjane: Ugh, that sounds awful. A month?!!! I don't know if I can get through a month of it, I'm about to crack now. I've honestly never been so exhausted in my whole life. </p> <p>@Foodnerd81: Yeah, you're right there!! We put her in the cot last night (which could be why she slept so badly - but I don't think so because it followed exactly the same pattern as the night before) and, at 5.30am, when I had been sat by the cot for half an hour trying to get her to sleep, I thought stuff it, I'm getting her out of the swaddle. She waved her arms about frantically, whined, whinged, wailed, ripped her dummy out, scratched her face. but eventually at 6.20am she fell asleep and slept for another hour and a half unswaddled (I didn't sleep, of course, because I had DH's alarms from 6.50 - 7.10 and then he got up, showered, blow dried his hair etc. He left for work at 7.30 so I had 20 minutes sleep. Ugh)..... then, when I saw the scratches on her face, I decided to clip her nails and nicked her finger. There was blood everywhere, I was crying (she was fine). I'm not sure how much more of this I can take. :sad: I called DH in tears and he said "don't worry, we will have an early night tonight" and I wanted to SCREAM. What good is an early night when she is waking every three hours???? It will just be an extra couple of hours of him sleeping peacefully while I deal with the baby. What good is that to me??? AGH! Rant over.</p> <p>Anyway, I've decided I'm going for it. The swaddle and the moses basket are gone. Forever. If she lies awake all wailing night for the next month... well.... it's like ripping a plaster off, huh? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170306 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 04:46:09 +0000 mjane 1170306@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Our 4 month sleep regression appeared just after 3 months. It was a month of misery (worse than the newborn days, for us, I think in part because we'd felt like we were all in a good rhythm and then totally thrown) but after a month she settled down again. The worst few days were after we swaddle-weaned, and she really could not settle herself at all. But eventually she figured it out. Blargh, sorry! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170292 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 03:48:28 +0000 Foodnerd81 1170292@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I'm sorry- that sounds terrible. And I'm really not looking forward to it since I'm sure it's just around the corner for C too. </p> <p>On the plus side , seems like the perfect time to transition to the cot since you're not messing with a good thing, right? :( </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170272 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 02:50:07 +0000 Kemma 1170272@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Hang in there mama, this too shall pass!</p> <p>Unfortunately sleep is never linear with babies, there's always something coming along to upset it! The good news is that sleep regression is usually caused by progression in other areas - teeth, rolling, crawling etc etc etc, the progressions can also create demand for more calories to keep up with all the development!</p> <p>Are you open to sleeping with your wee girl during the day in the hope of encouraging her to sleep longer? Maybe try to do some more physical activities with her while she's awake so she's more tired at nap time? Have you tried taking her outside into the fresh air and sunshine?</p> <p>Hugs to you! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170269 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 02:40:24 +0000 MrsStar 1170269@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>The 4 month sleep regression was brutal for us - lo was up hourly and barely slept throughout the day. I can't remember how long it lasted for us but I'm pretty sure by 6-7 months she was back to sleeping throughout the day and had one nightly wakeup. And since then other then teething she's been sleeping 10-12 hours straight a night. Big hugs mama. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170250 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 01:36:59 +0000 MamaJ 1170250@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I was going to say the 4 month sleep regression too. DS was a terrible sleeper. Waking every hour normally. It was even worse when the regression hit. </p> <p>I'd say my marriage was at an all time low at that point too :( </p> <p>It does get easier. Sometime it just takes longer than everyone says. At least for us it did. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170232 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 01:01:56 +0000 Cherrybee 1170232@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsStar: I was wondering about this 4 month regression - but more is she going to have one and how could she possibly regress any further?? She would have to grow her umbilical cord back. Ugh. I didn't know they could have it early. </p> <p>The bounce straight back from it, right?? They don't, do they....? Of course they don't. </p> <p>Update: she went to sleep at 6.25 and I went back to bed. DH's alarm went off at 6.50. He pressed snooze and went back to sleep. It went off again at 7am. He pressed snooze. I am destined to never sleep again. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170223 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 00:37:27 +0000 MrsStar 1170223@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Sounds like it could possibly be an early start to the 4 month sleep regression? No advice though, but it will get better! I'm hoping it gets better asap for you! I know that living on a small amount of sleep isn't fun for anyone. Good luck! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170216 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 00:22:02 +0000 StrawberryBee 1170216@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>You're ahead of me so I can't provide any guidance, but huuuuggsss!!!!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/waaaaahhhhh#post-1170214 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 00:18:10 +0000 Cherrybee 1170214@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I thought it was supposed to get easier around now?? This baby is kicking my butt this week!!! </p> <p>She turns 3 months on Friday and everything is just going to shit. </p> <p>At 8 weeks, she was virtually STTN, waking only once to feed around 4/5am, from a 7pm bedtime. </p> <p>First, bedtimes got more difficult - she started waking repeatedly during the first hour and needing her dummy reinserting. That's ok, we can cope with this. </p> <p>Then she started being more sensitive to noises in the night, waking when my husband moved around in bed, snored loudly and when his alarm went off. At the advice of HBers, we moved her into her own room at 10 weeks and it worked.... only then she started waking for the 1am feed again. Okay, we can deal with this, I can nap in the day, right?</p> <p>Wrong. Then came the curse of the crap nap. She stopped sleeping any longer than 30 mins in the day. Its ok, we navigated it - she now takes 30 minute naps every 1 hour (and mummy has given up any hope of daytime naps for herself). </p> <p>Then she gave up eating during the day. She started rolling the bottle teat around her mouth instead of sucking and spitting the bottle out after 50ml. I increased the teat flow and can usually get 80-100ml down her that way but she fights and flails and chokes and.... my patience is waning....</p> <p>Then, as this week started, we had the early teething crap, screaming for an hour straight in the night then crying all.damn.day. That seems to have subsided, leaving in its wake the 10pm feed. Yup, for the last two nights, 10pm is back. She is eating every.three.hours again in the night. So now any hope of an early night is gone, too. </p> <p>Last night was the worst night I've had with her since the newborn days. Up every three hours. Crying until I give her a bottle. Taking barely 50ml each feed. Refusing to settle after. I thought it might be because I tried her in the cot - she is getting too big for her Moses basket, oh and she is rolling so the swaddle has to go too - but even bringing the basket back has had no effect. Its ten past 6 now and I've been in her room since 5am trying to settle her. She wont take her dummy now, either. </p> <p>Im tired. Im cranky as hell. Im trying not to bitch and snap my marriage into oblivion. And I've had enough. </p> <p>When does it get easier???? It doesn't, does it? Just tell me so I can give up any hope of sleeping again. </p>