https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Tue, 12 May 2026 01:12:00 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today/page/2#post-832239 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:41:48 +0000 lomom 832239@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Anutka: thanks, I really appreciate the encouraging words. It means a lot :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today/page/2#post-832212 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:34:54 +0000 lomom 832212@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@T.H.O.U.: thanks :) we're back at it again this morning and he just nursed for 30 minutes on one side, with a few 1-2 minute breaks. I had to suction his nose this morning before we started nursing and I think getting him all pissed off helped him stay awake much better. 30 minutes with a few little breaks is a new record for him! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today/page/2#post-832192 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:29:26 +0000 lomom 832192@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@runsyellowlites: that makes a lot of sense, thanks for sharing! I went back and looked at our feeding logs (we've recorded every feeding since he came home) and he's been doing this, albeit on a smaller scale, for awhile. He's never taken 8oz over a few hours, but he went a much longer stretch between feedings last night too. Thanks for the link! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today/page/2#post-832184 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 09:26:56 +0000 Anutka 832184@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: I haven't commented before, but I've followed your posts and just want to say thank you for sharing your story!! You have done such an amazing job and your story is so very helpful to other women out there.</p> <p>Remember that you are the mom, there is no one in this world that knows your baby better than you. Trust yourself and let him guide you. </p> <p>Of course your husband is well meaning with his opinions and wants what is best for your son, but he is not there for the whole picture. You are - so trust yourself and keep taking it a day at a time.</p> <p>Congratulations on the success you've had so far! It'll only get better, enjoy :D </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today/page/2#post-832020 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 08:19:40 +0000 runsyellowlites 832020@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: I don't have time for a detailed response right this sec bc I'm getting ready for a meeting but I wanted to pop in &amp; say it sounds like you had a greatly successful day!!! Nursing has very different mechanics than bottlefeeding so the behavior you described is pretty normal, except most moms (in different circumstances) would just nurse more in that period. Check out kellymom's post on cluster feedings &amp; fussy evenings (remember nursing is about more than nutrition)</p> <p><a href="http://kellymom.com/parenting/parenting-faq/fussy-evening/" rel="nofollow">http://kellymom.com/parenting/parenting-faq/fussy-evening/</a></p> <p>Also if you look around there she has info &amp; tips for bottlefeeding the breastfed baby since "traditional" bottlefeeding actually forces a baby to eat with their suck swallow reflex &amp; how they literally have to engage this reflex bc their mouth fills with fluid. </p> <p>Try not to stress, you &amp; the little guy are doing great!!! ;) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831979 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 07:57:39 +0000 T.H.O.U. 831979@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: You know. You are momma. You know that he drank. You know he was happy and therefore not starving.</p> <p>Keep up the good work. Today is another day and he will get stronger and better. You have to give him the opportunity to show you he can do this. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831944 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 07:44:19 +0000 lomom 831944@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@T.H.O.U.: thanks. It just hurt to see lo act like he'd never eaten in his life. I know DH isn't on board with me breast feeding (he wanted me to keep EPing and bottle feeding) and he was watching lo devour the bottles and he made a comment about me starving him. :( I just want what's best for lo. He seemed so content nursing and he seemed like he'd transferred and he seemed satisfied. I just don't know. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831865 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 06:36:36 +0000 T.H.O.U. 831865@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: Just wanted to stop in and say that it sounds like a VERY successful day. If he was happy nursing all day, it was a success. Just because he took milk at the end of the day doesn't mean he wasn't getting anything. There is a big issue with overfeeding with a bottle (not that you are worried about overfeeding in your situation), but it does not mean that he was starving. Plus as others have said, that evening time period is when they seem to be the hungriest as they gear up for bed. Totally normal. Keep up the great work! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831844 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 05:44:51 +0000 Kemma 831844@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: Even if you don't get a diagnosis of lip or tongue tie you could maybe try some stretching exercises to help stretch the frenulum?' Here's a couple of websites with some info:</p> <p><a href="http://nurturedchild.ca/index.php/breastfeeding/challenges/what-to-expect-after-tongue-tie-and-lip-tie-release/" rel="nofollow">http://nurturedchild.ca/index.php/breastfeeding/challenges/what-to-expect-after-tongue-tie-and-lip-tie-release/</a></p> <p>I've also heard good things about this Facebook group:</p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/tonguetiebabies/?fref=ts" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/groups/tonguetiebabies/?fref=ts</a></p> <p>And I also wanted to say that you and your LO are making some really awesome progress so just keep plugging away at it and I'm sure you'll have it down in no time at all! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831838 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 05:23:15 +0000 erinpye 831838@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: unfortunately a lot of doctors, ENTs and LCs don't have correct and updated information when it comes to tongue and lip ties. I really recommend you check out Dr. Kotlow's website kiddsteeth.com and read some of his articles all about ties and their affects on oral and palette development, speech, oral aversion, breast feeding, etc. He's one of the leading authorities on the issue right now. And it's good to be armed with knowledge when it comes to this particular type of situation. I literally had to fight my pediatrician, husband and family about it until I found a specialist who knew what she was looking for. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831830 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 05:06:58 +0000 lomom 831830@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@erinpye: thanks! And thanks for sharing your experience. It really hasn't occurred to me since the 2 LCs said it shouldn't be an issue. Hopefully we can get it checked out and keep making progress. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831825 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 05:00:26 +0000 erinpye 831825@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: oh good. I hope you get some answers, and I hope nursing continues to improve for you! It's rough, but you are not alone, mama! xoxo </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831823 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 04:59:49 +0000 lomom 831823@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@erinpye: I'm going to set up an appt to have it evaluated. It can't hurt to have it evaluated since we know its tight. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831815 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 04:50:24 +0000 erinpye 831815@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: It can be. We had our daughter's done by a laser dentist because she was 6 months old and we didn't want to put her under anesthesia. You don't have to anesthetize newborns for clipping because they'll usually sleep through it, so an ENT can do it, but for older kids, laser sometimes is a better option and was for us. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831809 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 04:38:19 +0000 lomom 831809@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@erinpye: is it taken care of by an ENT doctor? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831806 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 04:22:33 +0000 erinpye 831806@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: We were told the same, but it was and issue, and revising both her lip and tongue made a HUGE difference! I have some resources of people to see in various areas around the U.S. if you're interested. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831805 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 04:21:38 +0000 lomom 831805@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@erinpye: he has a tight frenulum but both LCs that we worked with didn't think it'd be an issue. Maybe we should still have it evaluated. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831787 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 02:46:20 +0000 erinpye 831787@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I admit I haven't read the previous posts, or been following, but have you had your LO checked for tongue tie, and more importantly posterior tongue tie? Sometimes babies with tongue tie fall asleep quickly at the breast because it's so exhausting to try and overwork the tongue and jaw to nurse. Frequent nursing sessions are another common issue with ties. It causes all kinds of other nursing issues, too. My LO had a posterior tongue tie and upper lip tie that 2 LCs and 3 pediatricians missed, one even telling me she flat out didn't have a tongue tie when I had him look for one. We found a specialist and had her properly diagnosed and had the ties revised. Once we got her PTT and ULT corrected, our entire nursing experience changed drastically for the better. xoxo. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831752 Wed, 05 Jun 2013 00:34:24 +0000 LaineysMom 831752@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: It was still a successful day! My daughter drinks 1/3 of her daily milk during her last feeding of the night. It doesn't matter if she just had a bottle 30 min. earlier. I just think of it as her hibernating since she sleeps through the night. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831657 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 22:07:17 +0000 JoyfulKiwi 831657@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: aww, girl it was still a successful day! It was your first go at on demand nursing and you didn't hit a bump until the evening - that's great! Focus on your triumphs and you'll build on them day by day until, one day, you'll think "I barely remember what it was like when we weren't nursing together." You'll get there :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831609 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:41:36 +0000 lomom 831609@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I thought it was a successful day... Until about 6:30pm. I'd nursed him for about an hour, trying to get him to stay awake. I was fairly certain he'd gotten at least 2oz, maybe a little more, based on how empty I felt. I offered a bottle of 2oz, which he took... And he's eaten 6 more ounces since then for a total of 8oz in 4 hours and he's still acting hungry. He did this yesterday evening too, except it was 6oz total over 3 hours and then he slept for a 6 hour stretch, woke up for 3oz and then slept another 4.5 hours. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831571 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:20:18 +0000 JoyfulKiwi 831571@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Man, it sounds like it was a really successful day! Everyone mentioned the get baby awake tricks I know - keeping them up is really hard! I think I ended up just giving up on waking him up after a few weeks :). I hope the night goes well, too. You're doing such a great job - I love hearing about your journey! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831283 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 19:33:56 +0000 pregnantbee 831283@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: Just chiming in to say that I'm so happy you keep updating us. I'm so exciting that it's working so well for you at this point. You've already gotten all of my suggestions for keeping him awake.....possible to make the room colder so he's less snuggly while nursing?? That's the only other thing I can think of. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831245 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 19:22:36 +0000 lomom 831245@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Penny Lane: I tried the ear thing, no dice :( it seems like the only thing is picking him up and moving him, but it gets him REALLY mad. And as soon as he's back in position, he only lasts a few minutes before he's zonked back out :( </p> <p>@MsMini: that's really helpful to know! I had heard about the foremilk and hindmilk but hadn't thought about it when I was trying to figure out why he didn't seem satisfied. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-831211 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 19:03:48 +0000 MsMini 831211@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: The fortified milk will definitely digest slower than unfortified, also, if he is not emptying your breasts he will be getting more fore milk than hind milk, and since fore milk is more water and less proteins/fats than hind milk it will be less satisfying in the long run. When you pump, the bottles get a mix of fore milk and hind milk in them so they are more balanced in that respect. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-830932 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 17:05:16 +0000 Penny Lane 830932@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: sticking my finger in LOs ear always helped to wake him up in the early days. or tickling his feet and/or nose</p> <p>you're doing so well, it might be weird, but i'm super excited for you!! :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-830847 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 16:25:14 +0000 lomom 830847@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Smurfette: yeah, he's in just his diaper, I've tried blowing on him, I've tried wiping his face and neck with hands and face wipes... I'm hesitant to totally move him and have to redo the pillows and reposition him but moving him always works with bottle feeding, so I'm going to try that. He just nursed for 12 minutes, had great swallowing, and is zonked! I think if I can get him to wake back up for another 5-7 minutes, we'd be golden! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-830841 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 16:20:54 +0000 Smurfette 830841@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@septemberlove: have you stripped him down to a diaper? Tickling? Blowing in him? Those would wake up R in the beginning. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-830811 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 16:01:00 +0000 lomom 830811@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MsMini: me too!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-going-all-out-today#post-830802 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 15:56:52 +0000 lomom 830802@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Smurfette: he had a bottle at 7:30am with 2oz and then took 80cc at 1:30pm (I offered 3oz but he was full after 80cc). I nursed him every 30min-1 hour between about 9am and 1:30pm. I know he's transferring, I can hear him swallow and feel my breasts soften, but I think our missing puzzle piece is that he's not staying awake long enough. He had one really good nursing session of about 12min, where I really felt emptied and after that session, he slept for an hour. I feel like we're making progress, but we're not quite there yet. For the 6 hour stretch, he would've taken 6-8oz, so him not even wanting 3oz from a bottle makes me feel like we're getting it. He should be waking up soon so I'm going to try to keep him awake during our next nursing session and see how he does. </p> <p>I kind of wonder if he's also digesting the unfortified breastmilk faster than he digests the fortified (thus wanting to eat more frequently). We fortify with a high calorie formula and I've always heard that formula isn't digested as quickly as breastmilk. It's a small amount of fortifier but I wonder if it has an impact. </p>