https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 15 May 2026 06:18:42 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2239668 Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:20:29 +0000 Banana330 2239668@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: I cut out milk and yogurt, and cut way back on cheese/ice cream etc. I started with once every few days, then once a day, now I can have one or two small servings a day and her poop is fine. The key for me was not to over do it with dairy and stay completely away from obvious soy (tofu and protein bars seemed to cause the problems but veggie sausages are ok). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2239660 Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:11:19 +0000 rosegold 2239660@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>formula fed, right? sorry, i haven't been keeping track but my first thought is that poop looks so greeeen! but formula fed is supposed to be. i agree that if babe is acting fine, leave it be!!! if it was mspi, her symptoms woukd persist past 4 months and the zantac and prevacid would do little. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2239659 Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:11:18 +0000 SeptMomma12 2239659@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Banana330: That's what I'm thinking. So you ate baked dairy but not milk, cheese, yogurt, etc? I don't really eat milk or yogurt, but I end up having cheese pretty regularly. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2239658 Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:02:49 +0000 Banana330 2239658@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: yay! I think my DD reacted quite similarly. I cut out obvious dairy for a while and have slowly increased how much I eat now at 3 months she's tolerating it much better. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2239599 Fri, 17 Jul 2015 19:00:08 +0000 Adira 2239599@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: So glad to hear the good results!!! And that's great you don't have to restrict your diet. Glad you got some good answers. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2239586 Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:21:19 +0000 Anagram 2239586@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: glad there's no blood! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2239461 Fri, 17 Jul 2015 14:26:38 +0000 SeptMomma12 2239461@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Update: I showed the doctor a picture of her poop this morning and she agreed it should be tested for blood. She's growing well - gained 2 lbs in a month. DD pooped as soon as we got home so I brought it over and it tested negative for blood :grin: The doctor said she probably has a slight dairy sensitivity but no need to restrict my diet severely now since she's happy, growing well, and there's no blood. So I'm going to try to take it easy on dairy/processed foods, but nothing strict right now. Feeling much better! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2237820 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:53:12 +0000 SeptMomma12 2237820@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Banana330: My mom says the same thing. She said she's so glad the internet didn't exist when she was breastfeeding because if she saw green mucous in poop, she just said "ew, gross" and moved on.</p> <p>I'll update everyone with what the pediatrician has to say on Friday, but I'm feeling better. If she thinks some elimination is necessary, or if they test her poop and confirm there's an issue, I will probably eliminate dairy (way easier than soy) and see what happens, hoping we fall into that small percent that only has the dairy sensitivity. Like others have said, it's hard to embark on such a drastic journey when I have one of the happiest babies I've ever seen. She's definitely not in any distress. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2237331 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:16:44 +0000 keepcalmcarrie 2237331@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Anagram: Yeah, the switch in his symptoms after moving to Alimentum was incredible. He projectile-vomited the few times we tried regular or soy formula. He projectile-vomited any foods with trace amounts of dairy or soy up until 14 months. But he tolerated Alimentum with no problem - still some eczema, but totally happy and symptom-free other than that. LO2 - not doing quite as well on it, but still much better than before. I think he is more sensitive than LO1.</p> <p>I read that something like 90% of babies with milk/soy intolerances or allergies will do well on Alimentum/Nutramigen. It's a tough break when your LO is in that 10%. I probably would have gone on the elimination diet and kept breastfeeding/pumping too if the alternative was paying for the amino acid formulas OOP. Yuck. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2237309 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:04:54 +0000 Anagram 2237309@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@keepcalmcarrie: Interesting. Maybe my LO was a more severe case, but she had a much worse reaction to Alimentum than to my own BM when I was still eating dairy---like huge, great globs of what looked like pure blood in her diaper, whereas before it was just tiny streaks.</p> <p>We would have had to use one of the specialized formulas, and it $450+ a month, I suddenly decided I could keep pumping, haha. Even though it kind of sucked.</p> <p>But for sure, there are probably different levels of intolerance. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2237305 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:01:13 +0000 keepcalmcarrie 2237305@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: We used Alimentum. It is milk-based, but the proteins are broken down into basically microscopic pieces and most MSPI/CMPA babies can tolerate it just fine. </p> <p>For LO1, it improved everything instantly. For LO2, it improved everything except his reflux, which is still pretty bad at 6 months. I did a 1 week trial with EleCare (amino acid based formula, for babies who cannot tolerate any milk proteins) to see if it would make a difference, and there was a slight decrease in spitup but not enough to warrant the extra $$$ so we're back on Alimentum now (which is also quite spendy, but you can get fairly good deals online).</p> <p>Good luck!</p> <p>ETA - As others have said, I don't think you have cause for real concern. Mucous in the diaper and your mama instinct mean that yes, you should chat with your pediatrician about it. But if my sons hadn't been colicky, had watery green poops, and broken out into eczema, I wouldn't have messed with breastfeeding. Special formulas are expensive and usually stinky. If she's happy, take heart - nothing is hurting her much, otherwise she'd let you know :) </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2237136 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 10:20:28 +0000 Banana330 2237136@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Adira: I agree with you. Knowledge is great, but too much information can cause problems. I had similar worries with my LO (mucusy green poops, fussiness). I eliminated dairy and soy (not completely but major sources). Part of me thinks she got better when I removed them but it also could be the stage she was in making her happier. I think i was looking for a solution to a problem that wasn't really there. </p> <p>My midwife told me it's likely she's just not use to what you've eaten and it will go back to normal in a few days. Guess what, it always did. </p> <p>She's a drooling machine and swallows ALOT of saliva which I think caused the mucus. otherwise she's a totally happy baby rarely cries. The doc did think she had mild reflux but said if she's happy they don't treat it and it usually resolves it self. </p> <p>I'm not saying to not look out for issues but be aware there are many reasons for the same symptom and it's not always the worst case scenario. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct/page/2#post-2237093 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 10:03:20 +0000 Corduroy 2237093@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I was concerned about MSPI with LO1. She had colic, some mucus in her diaper and eczema. My friend's baby had MSPI and I had read about it here. I eliminated milk for a week or so but it didn't improve. I also tried eliminating eggs for a week, although I really don't recall why I suspected eggs (except that I ate them daily). I think I did one week elimination of each 3x. I knew a real elimination investigation would need to last longer but when I didn't see any change I would decide I was nuts and nothing was wrong.</p> <p>LO ended up being sensitive to eggs and had no reaction to milk. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236973 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 08:44:10 +0000 Adira 2236973@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Truth Bombs: Sickness and swallowing saliva can both cause mucus in the diaper. And based on the picture she posted, it wasn't very much mucus at all. She mentioned there was more yesterday, but with no other symptoms, I really don't think she needs to be worried. Obviously mentioning it to her pediatrician is always a good idea, but I don't think any of us should be convincing her that her child probably has food allergies or an intolerance.</p> <p>Both my children have allergies. With Xander, he's allergic to milk and rarely (if ever) had mucus in his diaper. He was always a happy contented baby who slept well and didn't fuss much. His allergist did not suggest I remove milk from my diet, despite him being allergic to it and me breastfeeding. If anything, he thought it could help him build up a tolerance and obviously wasn't hurting him any. My other son, Logan, is allergic to peanuts, but the only time he's had mucus in his diaper was when he was sick and congested. Otherwise, my ingestion of peanuts and breastfeeding him doesn't seem to bother him one bit.</p> <p>I'm not trying to tell the OP she shouldn't investigate anything, especially if her mommy gut is telling her something is up. BUT I don't think she needs to be as worried as she seems to be and I don't think she needs any more encouragement to make her more worried! Her baby is happy and healthy. She should bring up her concerns with her pediatrician. </p> <p>Sometimes I think people can get a little too carried away with Dr. Google and getting feedback from Hellobee. Hopefully the OP's pediatrician will help alleviate her concerns or investigate further if necessary! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236951 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 08:30:44 +0000 Truth Bombs 2236951@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: Wait and see what your doc says but if the ped suspects allergies and changing your diet is likely to be a trigger for your past issues PLEASE do not feel badly if formula turns out to be the best option. I know plenty of people who have lovely, happy, healthy babies on nutramigen or alimentum. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236948 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 08:27:46 +0000 Truth Bombs 2236948@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Adira: Sickness is really the only "normal" cause of mucus in the stool and the OP said that her daughter's congestion had cleared with the Zantac but the mucus in the stool has continued. If it's an ongoing thing and not just a very rare occurance there's likely something more happening than being sick. Didn't your son turn out to have a milk allergy? If he regularly had mucus in his stool its quite possible that for him, that was the only reaction he had to dairy in your diet. I don't think the OP should do anything until she speaks with her doctor but I also just didn't feel it was good advice for people to tell her that as long as the baby isn't screaming all the time, there's no need to investigate further. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236940 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 08:21:14 +0000 SeptMomma12 2236940@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Adira: Thank you :happy: I really am struggling because she's happy and sleeping great, but I just can't shake the feeling. I'm definitely not doing anything until we go to the pediatrician on Friday and she sees/tests a diaper. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236902 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 07:22:03 +0000 gilmoregirl 2236902@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: in our case, I was referred to a GI because eliminating hasn't helped the blood in his disper after a week or two. My sons ped wanted him checked out. The GI was unconcerned based on a number of factors but we had regular blood draws to make sure his counts were ok. But also his GI mentioned that there is a lot of disagreement in the field on whether blood in a diaper is serious or not; in our case, we decided to monitor rather than eliminate further. And then his diapers cleared up after another week or so. I have never known whether it was a food intolerance or something else. Looking back, I wonder if it wasn't a lot of stress for nothing in our case. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236894 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:58:57 +0000 Adira 2236894@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Truth Bombs: @SeptMomma12: Mucus in the stool can be caused by a bunch of totally NORMAL things, so just because you saw it a couple times does not necessarily mean anything is wrong! My son has mucus in his stool whenever he's sick and congested because he's swallowing the mucus! Also swallowing lots of saliva can cause it, so when they are teething, you might see it more.</p> <p>@SeptMomma12: I don't understand why you are convinced something is wrong and that she has MSPI. She sounds like a perfectly happy, healthy baby. And the picture you posted of her diaper looked completely normal. Please don't do anything until you talk to your pediatrician, but it really doesn't sound like you have any reason for concern! And my son's farts ALWAYS stink. Much worse than his poop! It's not abnormal. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236874 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 05:12:10 +0000 SeptMomma12 2236874@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Truth Bombs: Yeah I agree. I know there is something wrong. Her poop is not normal and while she's not generally gassy, she just farted as I'm feeding her and it STINKS. Unfortunately DH is very adamant about me not doing anything to my diet. He wants to talk to the pediatrician on Friday about what kind of formula we can try. So we need to work on in the next two days what our plan will be. It figures this happens right when I was feeling like we finally got the hang of breastfeeding. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236795 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 21:54:14 +0000 Truth Bombs 2236795@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: my understanding is that mucus in the stool is a sign of inflammation in the GI tract so damage is being done even if LO isn't fussy. My LO was a generally pretty happy baby but we still eliminated until she was symptom free. Also, if your LO is happy but only because she's on Zantac, I personally would rather eliminate to cure symptoms than medicate. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236637 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:20:45 +0000 Mae 2236637@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Also agree if she is happy, eating, and not puking--- I wouldn't worry about the poop unless you saw blood. My LO has (had? Not sure we're working on it) MSPI and her biggest symptom was complete refusal to eat. </p> <p>I did give up breastfeeding shortly after the diagnosis but that was sort of just one factor. I always had crappy supply despite a lot of effort and was pumping about 18 oz/day (I was EP'ing) and she was eating around 20-28oz/day so it seemed worth it to me to do the elimination diet. After a few weeks though (which sucked because I'm a really picky eater!) she hit the 4mo sleep regression and with my lack of sleeping my supply tanked to 10oz/day. Since I'd be making only 1/3-1/2 of her needed milk per day it just didn't seem worth all the effort to do the elimination diet for so little milk. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236626 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:11:25 +0000 SeptMomma12 2236626@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@gilmoregirl: So the GI didn't think it could cause damage if you didn't eliminate? But you ended up eliminating anyway, right? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236531 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:32:05 +0000 gilmoregirl 2236531@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: I will second those who say if she's happy then don't worry. Weird diapers can have lots of explanations and even when my son had blood in his diaper, his GI was not convinced that eliminating foods was necessary because he was happy and growing and otherwise fine. It sounds like you can feel good about doing what you're doing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236418 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:42:38 +0000 catlady 2236418@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: I think I shared our story on some other thread, but if you have a happy baby, I wouldn't rock the boat. My MSPI baby was very obviously in alot of discomfort. There were times when I was going crazy because if she wasn't asleep, she was crying, but the discomfort was also causing her to have trouble sleeping. I tried the elimination diet out of pure desperation. Even with all that, our pediatrician wasn't convinced it was food issues until she saw the blood in her diaper. She said that lots of babies have weird poops for all sorts of normal reasons. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236379 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:10:05 +0000 SeptMomma12 2236379@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@LovelyPlum: She was congested, but it went away pretty much as soon as we started the Zantac. My son had a lot of respiratory issues after a nasty bout with RSV and his pulmonologist felt strongly that reflux can cause congestion. But who knows!</p> <p>@Anagram: Yeah, she's one of those magical unicorn babies I didn't really believe existed. She's two months old today and I can count on one hand the number of times she has cried more than a fuss or two. She's really just a happy, content girl. That's why I have a hard time imagining whatever is causing the mucousy poop is causing her any distress. She grunts a lot, but doesn't seem to be in pain. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236354 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:41:56 +0000 MrsF 2236354@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: my first LO was definitely MSPI. Cried 24/7. She never had obvious blood in her stool until I switched to formula (because traditional formulas have much more cows milk protein in them than breast milk). After the bleeding we switched to nutramigen and she was a whole new kid. </p> <p>When my son was born 2 years later he was a fussy newborn and had lots of gas with very mucousy stools. His diapers looked like almost 100% mucous. Our pedi didn't think much of it and didn't recommend an elimination diet, but I was so traumatized by our previous MSPI baby that I cut all dairy and soy for 4 months. In hindsight I don't actually think he was MSPI. His poop got less mucousy very gradually but it didn't seem to matter what I ate. He grew out of his fussiness gradually as well. I don't regret doing the elimination diet because it made me feel like I was doing something for him - but it was all-consuming and I can see how it might be problematic if you have an eating disorder history. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236330 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:27:38 +0000 Baby Boy Mom 2236330@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: yes I had to eliminate everything. I was bummed about cheese for a few weeks but honestly it wasn't that bad once I got used to it. My favorite replacements were avocado and coconut milk depending on the circumstance. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236324 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:25:51 +0000 Anagram 2236324@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@SeptMomma12: oh, if she's happy and eating well, I wouldn't change a thing! Honestly. My baby completely stopped eating. Wouldn't BF, wouldn't drink from a bottle. Even when I switched to EPing, she wouldn't drink. She started losing weight and was averaging only 12-15 oz a bm a day. She developed a feeding aversion and wouldn't drink milk awake (or eat solids, for that matter) till she was 11 months old.</p> <p>Totally different story.</p> <p>If your baby is happy and gaining, I really wouldn't worry. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/were-your-mspi-suspicions-correct#post-2236322 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:23:27 +0000 LovelyPlum 2236322@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Yes, unfortunately. We were diagnosed after I had already eliminated and tried to reintroduce. DD was 8 weeks old when all hell broke loose, and I was desperate to try anything I could think of. You mention that your LO is congested, yes? That was actually the symptom that pushed me over to go dairy-free. She had mucousy poops and cried a ton, but once she also had a stuffy nose that would not quit, I knew it was time. My Lo also has reflux, but it was the combination of the Zantac and eliminating (first dairy, then soy, then beef, then wheat) that did it for us.</p> <p>I was scared to dive in at first, but I promise, it helps. And at the very least, it won't hurt. If you're willing, I say go for it, and see what happens. </p>