https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 22 May 2026 22:09:57 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769955 Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:12:26 +0000 Meowkers 1769955@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I don't have a clear recollection of when I did it in school but I remember my parents and grandparents teaching me multiplication the summer between 1st and 2nd grade. They made this whole summer long game out of it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769723 Sun, 20 Jul 2014 06:45:33 +0000 Dandelion 1769723@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>D didn't start them in 1st grade. I'm thinking 2nd when he will start. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769706 Sun, 20 Jul 2014 06:10:51 +0000 looch 1769706@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Oh the memories this thread brings back. I had a lot of trouble with times tables out of sequence, like if you asked me to recite the table, no problem. Just randomly 7 times 3? I had to do a lot of drills.</p> <p>I am curious how it will play out when my son is in school, I don't want him to have the same issues I did. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769472 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 20:01:43 +0000 matador84 1769472@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>In 2nd, we introduce. Texas isn't a common core state. They should know through their 10s by the time they leave 3rd...the standards say "with automaticity." We do a lot of fact practice doing breakfast where I work. With out the facts, kids struggle moving on to more abstract concepts. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769441 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:19:34 +0000 Mrs. Lion 1769441@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Anagram: With Common Core it is still required for kids to memorize the facts. The "new math" just comes before hand, so that by the time they memorize them they have a more firm understanding of what exactly they are memorizing.</p> <p>ETA: I wanted to double check if what I told you was right (I only taught common core for one year....</p> <p>I found this in the third grade standards. </p> <p>CCSS.Math.Content.3.OA.C.7<br /> Fluently multiply and divide within 100, using strategies such as the relationship between multiplication and division (e.g., knowing that 8 × 5 = 40, one knows 40 ÷ 5 = 8) or properties of operations. By the end of Grade 3, know from memory all products of two one-digit numbers. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769423 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:02:38 +0000 Anagram 1769423@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I think now, the new push in "new math" is for kids NOT to memorize their multiplication tables. But that probably varies by state and school district. Any current elementary math teachers who have schools where you don't teach the tables any more? </p> <p>I know my mom's school stopped. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769412 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:42:55 +0000 Jess1483 1769412@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>When I taught 2nd grade, we introduced multiplication, but they weren't required to memorize the tables, just know what it meant. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769394 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:19:25 +0000 FaithFertility 1769394@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>2nd grade introduces the concept as repeated addition...and they begin the concept in 3rd, I agree it needs to be a mastered skill by 4th-5th </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769367 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:47:40 +0000 Mrs. Lion 1769367@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@mrbee: The problem is that kids learn them to pass a quick test, but then are never required to review them to full mastery. So they lose their speed and fluency. A lot of 3rd grade teachers where I live were happy just to get them to pass the tests, but it took a LOT of work in 4th grade to get them to real fluency (being able to do them quickly, without counting on fingers or thinking for too long). My rule was 100% accuracy on a mixed test of 100 problems in 5 minutes. The kids who really knew them well could do it in 3-4 minutes.</p> <p>ETA: as a middle school math tutor, it is the #1 reason students in middle school struggle. Everything requires them to have a working fluency with these facts. Fractions. Long division. Proportions. Algebra. And when you throw in word problems, kids who don't have the fluency with the basic facts get so caught up with trying to figure out the arithmetic that they can't focus on what the problem is asking them. That, for many kids, is why they hate word problems. Their brain can only process so much. It's like trying to read a chapter book before you learn sight words. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769355 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:34:51 +0000 mrbee 1769355@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@meganmp: Would love to hear more... do some of your 5th graders struggle with their times tables? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769347 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:29:44 +0000 meganmp 1769347@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>It's 2nd and 3rd in WA, too, but you wouldn't always know it from my 5th graders... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769341 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:25:24 +0000 mrs. bird 1769341@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>2nd &amp; 3rd, it's expected that you've mastered all of your multiplication facts before entering fourth grade here </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769334 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:22:16 +0000 Mrs. Lion 1769334@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>3rd grade, some in 4th :) super important skill!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/when-do-kids-learn-their-multiplcation-tables-these-days#post-1769332 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:16:33 +0000 mrbee 1769332@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I remember reviewing flashcards as a kid... maybe in second grade or so. It's all a blur though.</p> <p>Was wondering when kids learn their multiplication tables these days... anyone know? When did you have to learn them? </p>