Hellobee Boards Topic: Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?

Hellobee Boards Topic: Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase? https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 24 Apr 2026 05:34:08 +0000 FliegepilzHut on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1796061 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:33:55 +0000 FliegepilzHut 1796061@https://boards.hellobee.com/ I went with religion because individuals and small groups within individual societies seem much more likely to look past race (especially when other socioeconomic factors are similar), whereas it seems to be much more acceptable to manifest prejudice against (or even demonize!) individuals or groups on the basis of faith. @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: @Mae: @Greentea: Along the same train of thought, I think? Mrs. Jacks on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1795907 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:48:26 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 1795907@https://boards.hellobee.com/ @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I think that issue is far more complicated than anti-semitism though I can kind of get why your friend might perceive it that way-- warranted or not. Mrs. Lemon-Lime on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1795898 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:38:37 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 1795898@https://boards.hellobee.com/ @Mrs. Jacks: My friend in this case is Jewish and thinks the entire world has kicked up its anti-Semitism. Mrs. Jacks on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1795868 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:43:22 +0000 Mrs. Jacks 1795868@https://boards.hellobee.com/ I just don't think you can quantify it. One's experience of what is worse may be different than another. And then there are plenty of groups that are both brown and a different religion. But the experience of an Indian American who is Hindu is probably really different than a Somali American who is Muslim. (Model minority issues)... So I'm going to take the easy way out and say it depends. I feel like Muslims have it pretty hard right now, especially those who wear it outwardly (hijab), but it's not exactly a great time in our country to be an African American teen boy, either. Certainly I wouldn't feel free to wear whatever I want (hoodie). imbali on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1795815 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 08:30:28 +0000 imbali 1795815@https://boards.hellobee.com/ Coming from SA, I'd say race - because we are a pretty tolerant nation when it comes to religion, but racial prejudice abounds (even post-Apartheid). I think it depends on the place and the history (social, political, and personal) which influences individual prejudice. Mae on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794928 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:52:33 +0000 Mae 1794928@https://boards.hellobee.com/ @mrs. bird: I'd agree that systematically (in the US anyways) racism is a much bigger problem than religious oppression. I was thinking more in terms of individual attitudes/prejudices. wonderstruck on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794916 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:40:04 +0000 wonderstruck 1794916@https://boards.hellobee.com/ I don't really feel like there's any way to answer this question without generalizing, which is fairly ironic considering the topic! But seriously, this varies so greatly based on the race/religion being discussed, and the person with the prejudice. Greentea on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794817 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 18:32:51 +0000 Greentea 1794817@https://boards.hellobee.com/ I think religion because it is something people feel so strongly about, something they are willing to die for, kill for, etc. To those that practice, it can be held to a standard above rationale and I'm not sure racism is culturally legitimized the way religion can be for some- but I could be wrong. mrs. bird on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794776 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:57:08 +0000 mrs. bird 1794776@https://boards.hellobee.com/ @Mae: i would agree with you about attitudes toward race vs. religion. however, i think when we go beyond attitudes to look at how we systematically oppress certain groups, we will find that race shows more markers for prejudicial practices. for example: incarceration rates for black individuals and sentencing practices, both are found to be extreme when compared to white individuals, not because black individuals are using far more drugs, but because they are just more likely to be arrested for it and their sentences for the same crimes are more harsh. once we've incarcerated the men within a race (1 in 3 black men will be imprisoned within their lifetime vs. 1 in 17 white men), we've taken away the fathers, the male role models, and we've left women alone to raise the children, we set the children up to follow a similar path. in addition we penalize the families once the men are released, often woman need support from the government while their SO are imprisoned, but once released, those men won't be allowed to live in subsidized housing with their families, so the families need to leave to be together, now rent is higher but the newly freed felon can't get work because of his record, so they return to criminal behavior to try to support the family. it's a vicious cycle. i haven't seen anything on the same level happening based on religion. i would absolutely agree that muslims in the US are frequently targeted and harassed, but with the muslim population growing so rapidly among all races, people can't pick muslims out of a crowd. seems one would receive more negative attention for being middle eastern than for being a practicing muslim. prejudice of all varieties is awful, but it seems that racial prejudice is more ingrained in society in the US and would be harder to erase. mrsjazz on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794749 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:27:42 +0000 mrsjazz 1794749@https://boards.hellobee.com/ I think it depends on where you are. In America, I think prejudice based on race is harder to erase. In some countries, to be brown means you are at the bottom of the rung in terms of social and economic status. But in the Middle East, I'm going to go with religion. And I'm sure there are other countries where religious prejudice is harder to erase. Dandelion on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794737 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:04:32 +0000 Dandelion 1794737@https://boards.hellobee.com/ Well, think about people's reaction to a white person who is Muslim and a Middle Eastern person who is a Christian. I think the Muslim would have a harder time. At least in the USA. The other guy would have a harder time in the mid east. So, I think it would be religion. Mae on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794736 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:02:12 +0000 Mae 1794736@https://boards.hellobee.com/ I think religion probably. I mean both are hard.... but I feel like racism is at least almost universally shameful at this point. Like someone might be a racist but will rarely actually admit to it because they at least know that it is wrong. Prejudice against religions is often worn like a badge of honor by those who hold it though. So I think that has farther to go. Espion on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794717 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:26:30 +0000 Espion 1794717@https://boards.hellobee.com/ @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I think, in the end, it is hard to compartmentalize my thoughts to places such as the Middle East or even places of serious unrest, such as the terrorist attacks in China or the Ukraine. Do they look at each other as darker skinned or lighter skinned, or in terms of what religion they likely follow because of how they look? And is political ideology more important than religion in some of these instances? I dunno... ETA: So I guess I would have to agree with you. :p Mrs. Lemon-Lime on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794706 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:15:04 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 1794706@https://boards.hellobee.com/ @Espion: I almost added Sexual Orientation to the poll, but that wasn't part of my conversation although the hate gainst those folks is very strong and vocal these days. You're right much of the arguments against the LGBTQ community is based on religious beliefs. Espion on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794701 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:09:01 +0000 Espion 1794701@https://boards.hellobee.com/ @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: That's an interesting point. I think I'd have to lean toward race, because the most significant non-US example of this I can think of is Apartheid in South Africa. Or even the African diaspora in the US after the Civil War. Or the Civil Rights era. (Ugh, it all makes me so angry that people somehow cannot recognize fellow human beings as human beings.) The problem is that things get muddy, because so many people use religion as a justification for their actions. But that may be more evident in the fight for LGBT rights. Cherrybee on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794698 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:05:01 +0000 Cherrybee 1794698@https://boards.hellobee.com/ I think religion is tougher because religion is a choice on my mind. People of different races can find common ground but people who choose not to budge will always be on conflict. Mrs. Lemon-Lime on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794696 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:00:48 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 1794696@https://boards.hellobee.com/ I actually think it's religion. Although I doubt my Middle Eastern Muslim brothers and sisters would agree. At one time black people were thought of as not having a soul, but I have seen enough white and black Christians on the same side of issues that I think religion binds even when race divides. Perhaps I am thinking too small though with my limited US view? TemperanceBrennan on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794693 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:58:16 +0000 TemperanceBrennan 1794693@https://boards.hellobee.com/ Really interesting thought experiment. I voted race because of my experience with rascim in America. The religion factor is so gray. There are huge umbrella designations (christian, muslim, jewish, etc), more specific designations (catholic, baptist), and indivudaul belief that can vary so, so much. Events in the Gaza strip are so hard for me to understand because I think the conflict stems from more from a cultural exisitence (rooted in relgion) than a purely religious one. ETA: I also think in American, the race/religion card can get blurred sometimes. There is lots of prejudice against "Muslims" but in my experience, the idiots that spout that hate are really commenting on people that look Middle-Eastern or Indian. lamariniere on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794687 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:55:18 +0000 lamariniere 1794687@https://boards.hellobee.com/ Definitely race since you can almost always see it. LuLu Mom on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794684 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:47:21 +0000 LuLu Mom 1794684@https://boards.hellobee.com/ I voted race because it's near impossible to "hide", if it came down to it you could hide your religion (even if you choose not too.) Mrs. Lemon-Lime on "Which kind of prejudice is harder to erase?" https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/which-kind-of-prejudice-is-harder-to-erase#post-1794681 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:43:30 +0000 Mrs. Lemon-Lime 1794681@https://boards.hellobee.com/ One of my good friends is a minority (religion) and I am a minority (race). He often likes to compare our plights- past and present. With all the recent events regarding the Gaza Strip he has been thinking more about how different he actually is from those that look like him (race), but do not share his religion. Which type of prejudice (race or religion) do you think is harder to erase?