https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Sat, 09 May 2026 02:17:12 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1960617 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:52:47 +0000 fussygal 1960617@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Anagram: Oh man! Just one puff?! Crazy. </p> <p>@catlady: crossing my fingers you get some cheese soon! :)</p> <p>@gilmoregirl: The symptom spotting is my big worry, too! She was spitting up a TON and her poops were slimy and green but since we I tried solids two months ago she only poops every 7-10 days and they are kinda weird. So either it would be super obvious or really hard to tell. :bummed: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1960563 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:03:09 +0000 gilmoregirl 1960563@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@fussygal: Just one thing I will add...I was super worried when I tested things, because I really wasn't sure what to look for symptom-wise, so I was definitely overanalzying every single spit up. I was told to look only for the same reaction we had in the first place, which in our case was slimy green poop with blood in it. Because he hasn't had another instance of that since his diapers cleared up back in August, we appear to be in the clear. I don't think he was terribly sensitive to begin with, if at all, so our case might not line up with others' experiences.</p> <p>Anyway, good luck to you! I was so excited to eat dairy again, but it actually kinda turns my stomach now, so I've let some of my different eating habits stick. </p> <p>Oh, and thanks to @LovelyPlum:, I've been turned on to the So Delicious coconut milk holiday flavors, and the chocolate mint is currently rocking my world. Thanks for the tip on those! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1960524 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:28:56 +0000 catlady 1960524@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@fussygal: I started introducing some baked dairy into my diet about a month ago at 12.5 months. So far she seems ok but I've been hesitant to introduce more because she keeps getting mild eczema and I can't figure out if it's diet or weather related (since it has gotten cold and dry recently). I am hoping to try yogurt or cheese (!!!) soon. We have not given any dairy to LO yet and I'm not sure when we will try but maybe sometime after Thanksgiving. We tried soy at around 10 or 11 months and she had a clear reaction so we have been waiting a bit on trying again. </p> <p>Our pediatrician said most kids grow out of it around 12 months, although I think LO was pretty sensitive so it may take a bit longer for us than for others. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1960482 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:47:09 +0000 Anagram 1960482@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@fussygal: My LO is 16 months and we still haven' introduced dairy and I'm only introduced soy oil and lecithin.</p> <p>My GI doctor advised for us to wait until 18 months and try something at that point because around 13 months, LO got a friend's cheese puff and ate 1 (!) and had black tarry stools for 2 days straight. So.....it still doesn't agree with her system at all, and it made me gun shy to try more. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1960472 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:37:21 +0000 fussygal 1960472@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@gilmoregirl: Thanks! That's really helpful. Maybe I'll Try soy now, and just wait until the end of the year when she has her nine month appointment and see what her doctor recommends. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1960443 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:10:58 +0000 gilmoregirl 1960443@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>The advice I followed was to reintroduce soy first (we did this right at six months) then dairy if soy went well. We introduced it through me eating it. I was really nervous to eat dairy normally bc even if one thing was fine, I was concerned about a cumulative effect. I started with "hidden" dairy, then yogurt, then cheese. Again, this was just my diet. </p> <p>At Ben's last GI appointment we were told I should continue to eat a regular diet. They recommended (and his ped agreed) that we should wait until 9 months to give any dairy to Ben. At that time, we will do the same - processed dairy, baked dairy, yogurt, cheese. He's not to try cows milk before one. </p> <p>To be clear though, this is just our plan based on our symptoms and our comfort level. Ben's GI has always emphasized doing what we personally are comfortable with and that's influenced the advice we've received. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1960249 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:23:34 +0000 fussygal 1960249@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@LovelyPlum: oh going directly is a good call - I didn't think about that! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1960223 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:15:11 +0000 LovelyPlum 1960223@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@fussygal: I'm curious about this, too. There is a part of me that wonders if we should start by giving it to her directly. That way, if she reacts poorly, my milk is still safe. Then again, we're not going to try again for a while, because she's shown signs of still having it if I slip up. Sending you so much :goodluck: !</p> <p>@hellobear: I'm so sorry I missed your original post! How are you and your LO doing? My LO also had congestion and has GERD as well. I hope that things are improving. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1960205 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:06:42 +0000 fussygal 1960205@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>For those of you who've "graduated" :) when did you reintroduce dairy? DD is 8 months soon and I'm wanting to try some hidden diary in a cookie or something, but I'm worried it's too soon. At her 6 month appointment her doctor said we could try, which could be right, but honestly her doctor doesn't seem to know much about MSPI based on my conversations with her so I'm curious what other's have been advised to do. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1914032 Fri, 24 Oct 2014 01:01:22 +0000 hellobear 1914032@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>LO's age?<br /> *3 mo</p> <p>Sensitivities? How do they react?<br /> * we are pretty certain about milk/soy protein.. LO may have other intolerances though, we just found out so still figuring things out.. sx include GI (mucous/bloody stools), congestion, GERD.</p> <p>When/how did you find out?<br /> * mucous/bloody stools that seem to get better when i started cutting out milk &amp; soy...</p> <p>Are you BFing? If so,<br /> -what is the hardest thing for you to give up?<br /> -good meal/snack ideas to share?<br /> * yes, currently still BFing.. giving up dairy &amp; soy has been so hard as i LOVEEE cheese &amp; used soy sauce in everything. right now I am in the middle of a TED to try to get my LO back to baseline so eating in general is rough.. :) </p> <p>Words of wisdom to share?<br /> * none yet, but i read through this entire post &amp; found lots of encouragement! :heart: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1899679 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:36:46 +0000 catlady 1899679@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: Thank you! I am relieved we made it. Thanks also for sharing that article, that is very interesting. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1899336 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:08:30 +0000 anandam 1899336@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@catlady: Forgot to say congrats on 12 months!!! Bummer your family doesn't get it. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1899332 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:07:30 +0000 anandam 1899332@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@gilmoregirl: @catlady: I so appreciate the supportive words of wisdom! He is otherwise well and thriving and growing, which is why my pediatrician hasn't been too worried, but as a mama looking at all these bloody diapers, it's hard not to feel awful. It's exactly as @LovelyPlum: said, feels like somehow *I'm* to blame, like I'm what's bad for him. :( But it's so helpful to have you all to remind me not to lose sight of the forest for the trees.</p> <p>Found this article yesterday that really spelled it out clearly - <a href="http://www.bfmed.org/Media/Files/Protocols/Protocol24_English_120211.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bfmed.org/Media/Files/Protocols/Protocol24_English_120211.pdf</a> </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1899056 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:36:44 +0000 LovelyPlum 1899056@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: I've gotten, and still get, a lot of pressure to switch to formula from my family. What actually helped me was that she reacted to wheat when she directly ingested it. That showed them that she wasn't reacting to *me*, but to the food. That is so tough :bummed: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/8#post-1899001 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:02:13 +0000 catlady 1899001@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: I'm sorry you're going through all this! I remember going through something similar and it was awful. Yes, I did get some pressure from family to switch to formula. At one point, I straight out asked my pediatrician if LO would be better off on the formula and she said that breastfeeding might possibly still be better than formula but definitely not worse. So I told that to my family and they seemed appeased. We recently reached my goal of 12 months breastfeeding so now family is on my case again but I have gotten to the point where it is easy just to brush them off. :)</p> <p>I definitely agree with @gilmoregirl too in treating the baby. I got obsessed with the poops because my LO's poop always tested positive for blood (even after I was on a crazy strict elimination diet for months) but she seemed happy and healthy so at a certain point, my pediatrician told me to stop eliminating new foods and just stick with what we were doing. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1897657 Sat, 11 Oct 2014 08:24:14 +0000 gilmoregirl 1897657@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: Yes, I did. My LO saw one pediatrician in our practice (not his usual dr) who wanted me to put him on formula right away, but I refused. Every other LC and doctor (including our pediatric GI) was supportive of my insistence that we continue breastfeeding. </p> <p>What symptoms does he have? How is he doing in general? The advice I got that really helped was to treat the baby and not the poop. So, we were seeing bloody poop and it was upsetting, but my son was happy, growing, and otherwise unaffected. We kept doing what we were doing.</p> <p>I know it doesn't help, but I really feel for you. I drove myself CRAZY trying to figure out what was causing the bloody poops, overanalyzing my diet and his diapers. It was so, so frustrating and awful. And then one day it just got better, with no additional changes from me. I'm still not sure that MSPI is definitely what was going on for us; it's all pretty nebulous though. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1897479 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:41:46 +0000 anandam 1897479@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@catlady: omg this is so frustrating. dairy, soy, wheat don't seem to be doing it... actually things seem worse. i've definitely been eating more eggs/nuts/peanuts than usual to compensate, so maybe that's the next to go. then legumes?! which feels like everything.</p> <p>also to both @catlady: and @gilmoregirl: when it went on so long, did you get pressure to switch to formula? my dad just started this with me tonight and it really upset me. but then again, maybe that does make sense? curious how that went for you, and how you decided to hold out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1884526 Wed, 01 Oct 2014 13:47:56 +0000 catlady 1884526@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: I did both dairy and nuts at the same time (not really something I recommend, fwiw). My baby seemed to get super sick right after I had a ton of almonds, but everyone said to try dairy first, so I just went with both. In the end, I had to keep eliminating (she ended up definitely sensitive to soy too, plus some undetermined things). But just the dairy, soy, and nuts was enough to make a huge difference for us in the beginning.</p> <p>If it helps, my pedi told me that she would normally recommend cutting dairy, soy, wheat, and eggs in that order as first suspects. She also mentioned that sometimes babies who are really sensitive to soy will have an issue with legumes because they are similar, or babies with a dairy issue will also have a problem with beef. In the end, it is really just trusting your gut and (dare I say it) a bit of luck. I eliminated sooo many things and we still never figured out all her problems. But at 12 months, she is outgrowing them slowly but surely anyway. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1884494 Wed, 01 Oct 2014 13:32:03 +0000 Baby Boy Mom 1884494@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: yes dairy first because that is most common. We saw a big improvement within a few days. But then he still had a rash for a while and it took me a couple more weeks to eliminate soy completely. I made our house completely dairy and soy free for a while so that there were no temptations. Then once I was used to it, it was easier to buy some dairy for DH and LO1. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1884405 Wed, 01 Oct 2014 12:51:38 +0000 gilmoregirl 1884405@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: I eliminated dairy first and then added soy to my list after five weeks of no dairy hadn't made a difference. After 8 weeks off both, his diapers cleared up and we haven't had a problem since. I don't think the length of time we saw is the norm at all. I did have to label read though -- which means a lot of breads and cereals, etc are off the table because they contain the milk protein. </p> <p>Kellymom has a helpful cheat sheet: </p> <p><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/store/freehandouts/hidden-dairy01.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.kellymom.com/store/freehandouts/hidden-dairy01.pdf</a></p> <p>After his diapers were clear for a month, I started challenging a little and trying things here and there (ie, a granola bar that had soy in it, a tiny amount of parmesan cheese on my pasta, goat cheese) and so far we have had no issues. I had a soymilk latte yesterday, so I'm waiting to see how that turns out. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1884145 Wed, 01 Oct 2014 10:54:45 +0000 Pirouette 1884145@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: i eliminated dairy first because our ped said it was the most common. she recovered (it took maybe 2 weeks for her to really be back to normal?) so we stopped there. I also made a conscious effort to reduce soy, but that only lasted a short while before i realized it was clear that the dairy was the issue. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1883638 Tue, 30 Sep 2014 23:27:59 +0000 anandam 1883638@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Baby Boy Mom: @Pirouette: @gilmoregirl: So helpful, this all makes perfect sense, thank you! Did you all eliminate dairy first because it's most often the problem? Or did you eliminate more things at first? How long till bowel symptoms improved?</p> <p>I did cut out most dairy last week (had a little butter and cream a couple times) and will be stricter now, but curious to hear your experiences so I can sort of feel less blind! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1883087 Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:55:13 +0000 gilmoregirl 1883087@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: In our case, I was told food logs are very hard to draw conclusions from because a suspected food shows up in your breast milk anywhere from 4-24 hours after it is consumed. Which means it can then be even longer before it gets to/through baby. Our GI doc told me to stop with the food log, but that is very likely because I was literally losing it trying to figure out what I was eating that was the cause of our issues. But we also had nothing but green bloody poop for months, so there was never a chance to look for a correlation. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1883042 Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:34:01 +0000 Pirouette 1883042@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: i'd say before i eliminated dairy, there wasn't a clear correlation, whereas once i had eliminated it, there was a pretty quick reaction if i had any incidents. from what i understand, milk protein intolerance basically means the intestines become inflamed when you have milk protein, but that doesn't necessarily mean you immediately see the impact. so you could have blood any amount of time later, because the milk protein caused the inflammation, and if let's say you have a milk intolerance, it could take multiple instances before it would rise to the level of mucous/blood passing through to the poop. </p> <p>Does that make sense? I'm not a doctor, this is just how i understood it from LO's ped! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1882755 Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:15:22 +0000 Baby Boy Mom 1882755@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: my experience is that pediatricians know VERY little about breast feeding. That said, I also think every baby is different and reacts differently. For example my LO reacted to dairy starting anywhere from 18-36 hours after I ate it and the reaction could last quite a while depending on how much I ate. For soy, though, it was a cumulative effect. So if I just ate it once it was no big deal, but if I ate soy thing for like 3 meals in a row then I would start getting a reaction and it would take a long time to stop seeing the effects. This is the reason that a food log is complicated to follow. I think if you really want an answer then you'll need to do an elimination diet and add things back in one at a time. I think the bottom line is to trust your mommy gut! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1882685 Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:42:16 +0000 anandam 1882685@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Looking for some advice from you experienced mamas...</p> <p>Our pediatrician really doesn't suspect a food intolerance because the symptoms are inconsistent, she suspects anal fissures, but she said to keep a food diary and see if anything correlates from the previous 24 hours whenever we see a bloody green stool.</p> <p>So on closer examination of every diaper we are seeing blood more often than I thought, twice in the past week. But some days are yellow and curdy and normal. LO is gassy and spits up some days more than others but generally happy and sleeps and eats well. Looking at my food log I don't see any clear suspects.</p> <p>When you all were narrowing down causes, did you notice that eating something one day would always worsen symptoms within 24 hours? Was there ever more of a delay? Or is it not so clear - some days baby seems affected by the problem food, some days not? </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1870826 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:53:28 +0000 Pirouette 1870826@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@LovelyPlum: that sounds like a pretty good appt, overall! The weight gain must be reassuring, and it is great to feel like you have the knowledge and are doing the right things for her! Sorry there is still blood, but at least you know, right? Glad we've all been able to help each other out! :heart: </p> <p>@gilmoregirl: enjoy the goat cheese! I've been eating it with no issues - I hope you can too!!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1870730 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:14:43 +0000 skipra 1870730@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@anandam: sorry to see you here, but welcome! I agree it makes sense to eliminate more than you may need to just so you don't drag it out trying to figure out the cause. I thought that wheat could possibly be an issus but maybe not so I eliminated it and will try to reintroduce soon.</p> <p>@gilmoregirl: glad that your lo didn't react to small amounts of dairy and soy! Good luck with the goat cheese! Last weekend I had some salad at a wedding with dressing on it and we had bloody poops the next day for almost a full week, so it sounds really promising that you didn't experience something similar!<br /> @Pirouette: @abbydabbydoodlebug: so great that your los seem to be taking the dairy so well!<br /> @LovelyPlum: glad that you are being taken seriously now. Our ped doubted my suspicions even after 4 diapers tested positive for blood. It wasn't until the last appointment when I made a big deal about how much better he is eating and acting and how his poop is normal now that he conceded he may have been wrong. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1870632 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:20:11 +0000 anandam 1870632@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Baby Boy Mom: the info about how our generation is among the first who've been exposed to all the processed soy is really smart. Makes me feel a little less crazy somehow.</p> <p>@LovelyPlum: @gilmoregirl: Thanks for the welcomes and thoughts. I'm gonna talk this all over more with DH, and LO has his 4mo appt on Monday so we'll definitely bring it up there. I'm thinking it may make sense to go all in and eliminate dairy, soy, wheat, eggs, and coffee, and see what happens over a few weeks, then if all's well, trial some things back in. Serious grocery trip is in order this weekend, I think! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/who-is-dealing-with-a-dairy-intolerance-or-mspi/page/7#post-1870542 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:13:15 +0000 LovelyPlum 1870542@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@gilmoregirl: not a lot of answers sounds about right. I feel like so much is trial and error, so it's hard to say. But I am really glad to hear that B is having a good time of it with your trialing dairy! Goat cheese sounds awesome. I hope that it works! </p>