https://boards.hellobee.com/ Pregnancy, Baby and Parenting blog, by Hellobee en Fri, 10 Apr 2026 21:53:38 +0000 https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902859 Tue, 19 Nov 2019 15:23:39 +0000 bhbee 2902859@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@pachamama: that’s interesting! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902855 Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:42:48 +0000 pachamama 2902855@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Ok nerding out- this part is about how a child develops two-word phrases which is considered to be "grammar". It mentions gesturing as a way they learn: </p> <p>"For children acquiring English, the production of two-word combinations is usually regarded as the first step in the acquisition of grammar beyond one-word utterances. Recently, however, it was discovered that the appearance of two-word utterances is preceded – and perhaps facilitated – by changes in the child’s word + gesture combinations. First, the word and gesture become temporally synchronized so that they are produced simultaneously; then the word and gesture are used to express distinct elements (Kelly 2003). For example, in the latter stage, instead of reaching toward a banana and saying banana, the child will reach toward the banana and say want. Two or three months later, the first two-word combinations appear (Kelly 2003; Iverson and Goldin-Meadow 2005). Thus, the acquisition of grammar may have developmental roots in the domain of gesture."<br /> (Genetti, 2015)</p> <p>neat! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902852 Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:38:56 +0000 pachamama 2902852@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bhbee: thought of you... I am getting my ENL degree and we just now are learning about language acquisition which is so fascinating. In this week's reading it says,<br /> "Research has shown that comprehension precedes production in lexical development; at 1;4 years of age (**This means 16 months**), for example, on average children can produce only about 6 words but can understand about 51–100 (Fenson et al. 1994: 66)."</p> <p>so there's some research from a huge peer-reviewed study saying at 16m the average American child has 6 words. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902672 Sat, 16 Nov 2019 10:40:14 +0000 periwinklebee 2902672@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@pachamama: @agold: My little brother started talking much later than me; my mom was apparently really worried and when she took him to the pediatrician, he said my brother wasn't talking because I never shut up 😂 </p> <p>@bhbee: We mostly just signed more and all done. Sometimes he would sign milk as well. He doesn't do it much now that he talks much better, and I kind of miss the adorableness of signing </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902668 Sat, 16 Nov 2019 10:02:30 +0000 bhbee 2902668@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@brownepiano: it’s so true about them doing what they care about. My older two were pretty different in that! </p> <p>The only sign I know is more but I can definitely learn a couple new ones. Going to work on that this weekend </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902659 Sat, 16 Nov 2019 07:51:22 +0000 brownepiano 2902659@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bhbee: we never got too many, he'd learn a new one and stop doing the others. But "more", "please", and "all done" were most helpful. DS would sign "please" for everything he wanted. Yes and no took a long time for him to say. </p> <p>Even now at 5 he's learned his gross motor skills (riding a bike) before communication stuff (memorizing the alphabet). But he's really good at remembering the things he's interested in. All kids are wired differently. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902648 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:45:58 +0000 jhd 2902648@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bhbee: more was the most helpful sign for us if you want to start with just one. at speech therapy they practiced it by withholding something he wanted like a puff or puzzle piece and he had to use the sign to get what he wanted. once it clicked we added a few more. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902646 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:37:18 +0000 bhbee 2902646@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@brownepiano: I need to get on the signing. I kind of meant to do it with the other kids and was too lazy / they talked enough, but this time I need it! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902631 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 17:55:09 +0000 brownepiano 2902631@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>Sorry didn't read all the comments so sorry if this is a repeat but for us DS 1 didn't talk till late. He did all his gross motor stuff super early and everything else late. It could just be your kid and have nothing to do with you or third kid status. The one thing that helped us was doing a lot of baby signs. And expecting./requiring those instead of screaming. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902619 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 15:09:28 +0000 ALV91711 2902619@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>DS2 is just about 15 months and I'm so over the pointing/screeching!! He says mama and dada and just makes a lot of noise. Just this last week he has started to show an interest in books and will sit through a few pages of reading. </p> <p>Hopefully they figure out some words soon! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902614 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:46:47 +0000 bhbee 2902614@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@pachamama: I am so ready for those basic words! Instead of just mad gesturing and screeching. I figure the gesturing is a step in the right direction at least. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902608 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:34:39 +0000 bhbee 2902608@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@agold: I bet she will! I think for many kids it comes 18-24m when they have a big explosion. Clearly I need to remember this :silly: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902607 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:33:51 +0000 pachamama 2902607@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I feel like it's a very common problem with the 2nd and 3rd children, they get what they need without using words! I have to second ditching screen time as well. Also once she has a few more words under her belt, not acquiescing until she uses them (up! Stop! Baba! Etc). I feel like age 2 you should see more. My son had basically no words at 15m but between 2-3 exploded . </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902606 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:23:36 +0000 Shantuck 2902606@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>This was my second and she was still behind on her second birthday. In addition to getting less attention than her brother did, we think sending her to a daycare where they spoke most Spanish to her from 11 months until just prior to turning 2 contributed to her confusion. We actually just finished up 9 months of speech therapy and she is back to being on level at her third birthday. One thing I was continuously reminded of was that each kid is different and blossoms in their own time. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902590 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 13:04:44 +0000 agold 2902590@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bhbee: My 18 month old girl - second child - seems pretty behind on words, too. Receptive language is great, but not really words. She has, "whats that" "wheres mamma/dada" "its mamma/dadda" "buba" and "NNNNNNNNo". I pretty much think that's it. My first girl had so many words at this age. I talk to my girl so much and read her books. So I'm not sure what else. Her doctor says not too worry too much, even at the 2 year appointment, since speech therapy will only be doing the same things we can be doing with the kids. So, I guess I will just hope she has more words by 2.5!! :shocked: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902569 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:20:38 +0000 bhbee 2902569@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@periwinklebee: I’m sure that’s how it’s going to happen. She did her gross motor that way too - was way behind at her first birthday and caught up on everything on her own in the next month! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902565 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:56:18 +0000 periwinklebee 2902565@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>To me 15 months seems young. I don't remember exactly b/c I'm a crap mom when it comes to documenting milestones, but I think at this age LO maybe only had mama, dada, and more. Now at nearly 22 months he talks up a storm, it literally was a language explosion. I'd say just keep doing what you're doing - talking to her, read as much as she'll tolerate - maybe try to put some baskets with books easily within her reach if you don't have this already so she can gravitate to ones she likes if she's interested... My son loves books but has always had his strong preferences and wants nothing to do with a book he doesn't gravitate towards himself... </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902346 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:36:50 +0000 MrsSRS 2902346@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Jess1483: totally! And thank goodness for speech therapists having a hundred different ways to address the same thing. Kids can be quirky. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902345 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:34:29 +0000 Jess1483 2902345@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsSRS: I’m sure that’s true. I just kept doubling down on teaching him signs thinking eventually it would click. So I wanted to put it out there in case others find that introducing more signs actually gets you fewer words. :happy: </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902337 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 09:52:13 +0000 MrsSRS 2902337@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Jess1483: totally true! Nothing works for everyone. I'm a preschool teacher so my sample size is a couple hundred. It works for more than it doesn't. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902333 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 09:30:18 +0000 Jess1483 2902333@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@MrsSRS: I did this with my first and he ended up going silent. He had over 60 signs at 18 months and no words (maybe Mama). The speech therapist told us that if we knew what he wanted, we should respond to the vocalization, be it screech, moan, grunt, whatever. He ended up speaking soon after. He’s a bit of a perfectionist and wouldn’t make any sounds if they weren’t “right.” Signs were his “lazy” way of communicating. I know signs can aide in language development for many kids, but not all. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902263 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:45:55 +0000 MrsSRS 2902263@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I hand over hand did the sign language for whatever my toddlers screeched for. "No scream, more please" while shaping their hands in the sign for more. Same thing for screeching for other things. You get nothing of you screech. You get whatever you want if you sign please. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902189 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:23:33 +0000 shabang 2902189@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My 16mo has no words at all. Her dr isn't worried, and neither am I.<br /> The other two had words at this age (especially my middle, she may have had sentences!)<br /> She points or squeals or stands on a high surface to get attention, so I just figure she hasn't needed words yet. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902137 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:40:55 +0000 jhd 2902137@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bhbee: I only have two kids and I have to do things like that or we forget! ;) now he brings me books after diaper change. Plus it’s the only time I get any baby snuggles anymore!! </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902136 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:38:28 +0000 bhbee 2902136@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@jhd: I love the diaper change idea. Things get so crazy since I mostly solo all three and a routine like that would be helpful. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902135 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:36:17 +0000 bhbee 2902135@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@LCTBQE: those are good ideas. I’m glad I’m not alone in this! I keep thinking I should be able to get her to say words related to eating because she’s very food motivated but she just looks at me like I’m crazy when I’m repeating things to her (just give it to me lady!). </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902134 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:29:49 +0000 jhd 2902134@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>I have a 19mo and I feel like the word explosion came after he was done with all the big gross motor things! It’s like they can’t focus on the two at once.</p> <p>Does she have any favorite characters that would get her more into books? DS2 loves Elmo and we found some simple board books he will read with me every day even though he has a short attention span for many other books. After several months he’s now telling me some of the words or talking to me about some of the characters on the page. </p> <p>I would talk and sing as much as possible and try to get her into some really simple books. We have started reading one book after each diaper change. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902131 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:17:43 +0000 LCTBQE 2902131@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@bhbee: I could have (and thought about!) writing this post with my August girl. I found a vocab list I'd written on my computer from my son when he was 13 months and it was like over 25 words long, but more than that, I remember before his birthday he was actually communicating with words to get his needs met, like he'd hold his arms out and say, "up". My daughter only has mama, dada, dog, and she has mimicked a couple other words/sounds, but then they've never re-appeared. She calls her brother "gah-gah" (not even close, but she's consistent), but otherwise, she just doesn't have any words yet. And same deal as your daughter with the constant babble/chatter/screetch, no hearing worries. Every night when I give her a bath I line up all our munchkin squirt farm animal toys and try and teach her pig and cow etc, and then reinforce it with all the Sandra Boyton books and other toys that have farm animals. I'm trying to teach her foods and commands, too. I don't know what to say other than I hope it's sinking in and you're totally not alone!<br /> ETA I have had a little more luck with some of the animal noises, I remember that was a big one for my son, too--like she will try to say "moo". So maybe that's another good angle. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902129 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:13:43 +0000 Kemma 2902129@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>My advice would be to ditch any screens and constantly talk to her or narrate what you’re doing. Take her outside and talk to her about all the things you can see, hear and smell, and you could also try singing to her. </p> https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/working-with-15mo-on-talking#post-2902125 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:07:02 +0000 bhbee 2902125@https://boards.hellobee.com/ <p>@Mama Bird: that’s true - I have just her 12 hours per week. Just seems like between naps and running a few errands I don’t want to take 4yo on it goes fast! But I do talk to her a lot then. I’m sure she’ll just get it at her own pace. Next year they’ll both be full time and things will feel so different! </p>