honeydew / 7589 posts
Just because I never hear this mentioned as a possibility... My husband was circ'd as a baby and he strongly wishes he hadn't been. He told me he would never circ his children.
What I'm trying to say is, the future is completely outside your control. You may regret either decision. You may have a son who wishes he had been circ'd and wants to have it done as an adult, or you may have a son who wishes he was intact. You may have a son who is made fun of for being circ'd, or for not being circ'd.
I think the best decision is to put aside all the what-if's, the fear mongering, and the opinions of other people and just do what feels right, in your heart, for you and your son. I believe mama intuition knows best.
pomelo / 5509 posts
@Arden: I was thinking the same! There's no way you can predict. You might not circumcise and in the future your son may wish he had been circumcised and be upset that now it'll be a horribly painful procedure. You might circumcise and in the future have a son who wishes he hadn't been. Are there botched circumcisions? Sure. Are there infections related to not circumcising? Sure. Are either of them terribly common? No. With the current trend of more people not circumcising, I feel like boys are going to grow up with a decent mix of seeing both. They might get made fun of either way.
You just have to do what's right for you and your family and not worry about everybody else.
nectarine / 2641 posts
@Arden: Yep! My ped had a son she didn't circumcise who later had it done (around age 8) because he wanted it done. No way to know for sure. I think "go with your gut" is a good answer in this conversation.
kiwi / 661 posts
I'm always a bit shocked by responses to these type threads. I did. I debated a lot and wasn't sure of the decision and still dont' know what kind of difference it made. I had a few personal reasons for it. That being said, I'm the ONLY one in my northeast city social circle that I know of that debated AT ALL. All other little boys that I am aware of have had it done without a lot of debate!
clementine / 856 posts
I left the decision to my husband, and he chose not to. Even though I know the statistics and trend is to not circumcise, it seems like everyone around me has done it to their sons. I find myself having to explain our decision not to circumcise to everyone! it's a little annoying, but whatever. It was our choice and we don't regret it.
I just hope that in the future LO doesn't wish we did circumcise him, though.....
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
@BabyTsMom: That seems crazy that you've had to defend your choice! I don't think anyone I know personally has even asked me if Xander is circumcised or not! And all the little boys I know, I don't know if any of them are or not. Seems like such a bizarre thing to come up in conversation!
squash / 13764 posts
@Arden: yes totally agree!
As for the issue of kids being teased about not being circ'd--that really irks me. So if your kid was a redhead, would you dye their hair pre-emptively because you're worried about kids making fun? Or if they have to wear glasses, would you force them to wear glasses, or undergo eye surgery so they won't be made fun of? These examples might be extreme, but my point is just that kids will ALWAYS find something that is "different" about other kids, and why is changing a child's body an acceptable reaction to a fear of teasing?
FWIW, my DH is not circ'd, and grew up in an area where most people were, and he NEVER was bullied or teased about it (except in the way that he and his friends teased each other about EVERYTHING and that was just one thing on the list).
pineapple / 12566 posts
We did not. My husband is European and it is uncommon to do it unless there are religious reasons or health issues that occur later.
cantaloupe / 6059 posts
We didn't circ despite the fact that DH is circumcised. Absolutely no regrets 16 months later!
hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts
I actually don't think a circumcised penis "looks better". My husband isn't circumcised and I prefer it that way. He was never once teased as a kid or adult. Is it really that common for boys to be completely naked checking each out other out anyways?
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
@winniebee: That's what I wanted to know, not having any experience myself in a locker room filled with teenage boys.
pineapple / 12802 posts
@winniebee: At one time, it was common for boys in the locker rooms to be naked together. However, I think that is quite uncommon now, (At least where I live) until much later when they should be old enough for that not to be tease-worthy...
blogger / pomegranate / 3201 posts
@Aimed: There was a boy in my hs who everyone knew wasn't circumcised. It was talked about - one girl saw it and that was it, it was blabbed about all over. So, I see the fears, but like I said earlier, I don't think that's enough of a reason to do it, especially now when it seems like it is less and less common.
ETA: I don't think he was bullied about it and I think he was considered a pretty popular kid. It's just that everyone knew, and being a naive young girl, I thought it was weird. Of course, I know better now!
honeydew / 7589 posts
@looch: @winniebee: DH tells me no, he never saw an uncircumcised kid get picked on in the US growing up. He said the only place he saw that happen was a Balkan country where circ had cultural/religious significance.
clementine / 856 posts
@Adira: I know! I think it's a personal question! But it's come up so many times! Ugh. And the response is more like, "Why didn't you?" So that's when I have to explain our decision!
pear / 1787 posts
i don't have kids yet so take this with a grain of salt... just a lil food for thought.
dh wasn't circumcised as a baby. as a preteen (around 11 or 12), he got an infection and had to have it done. it didn't traumatize him and didn't give him a strong opinion about it one way or another. if we have a boy i will leave the decision up to him... as of now he feels he needs to do more research but leans towards whatever medical professionals suggest. from what i've read, i assume that means not circumcising.
nectarine / 2173 posts
We are having a girl, but decided not to if we had a boy. We're in the PacNW.
pomegranate / 3643 posts
@loki: from what I've read and heard it's kind of a six to one half a dozen to another.
We did for both. The health benefits were a reason for me. I have some significant urological problems and I wanted to reduce their chances of UTIs. Even if it's unlikely they will inherit them being male. DH likes being circumcised even though he doesn't know any different.
persimmon / 1128 posts
Both our boys were circumsized (non-religious, California).
FWIW, when I asked our doctor about it, he said that in his professonial opinion it was purely a personal preference, and if we were unsure about how to proceed, we should consider son "looking" like father.
grape / 79 posts
@Dandelion: That's interesting to me! What made you change your mind with the second?
watermelon / 14206 posts
@SerenaSF: D is older and is not. After spending 15 days in the NICU, I thought he had enough at that point. His dad didn't have an opinion on it. M is circumsized, because his dad (not D's dad...second marriage) felt strongly about it. I didn't feel strongly about it either way, so I went with it. Either way it's no big deal to me.
cantaloupe / 6171 posts
We don't have a son so I didn't vote, but we're Jewish so we will if we have a boy
grapefruit / 4770 posts
Baking babe now, so I didn't vote as it may not even be a boy. DH is not circumcised but if it's a boy wants his son circumcised as he was teased by his friends about it in school. Never like to the point of being depressed, but he said he was the only one in the locker room that looked different. He has consider getting the procedure done now at 28. I told him it's not that serious! To me, being teased isn't enough of a reason to have major surgery on your genitals. But, we also do have religious reasons so I'm not sure. Wishing you hadn't had it done when he becomes an adult can go the other way, and they wish they had it done!
nectarine / 2973 posts
I have a girl so I didn't vote, but if we have a boy in the future I would definitely not circumcise. I also wouldn't consider getting a part of my daughters vulva cut off because some people might think that it looks better.
pomelo / 5509 posts
@oliviaoblivia: @Purpledaisy: I wasn't going to say anything because the OP didn't want to start a debate, but now I feel like I have to. I'm sure you are aware it can be very personally offensive to people when you directly compare male and female circumcision.
To begin with, the reasons behind male circumcision are much more layered and complex than "it looks better." Really. There are religious reasons, it used to be that there were evidentiary health reasons, etc.
Female circumcision, which, in many cultures involves cutting off the inner and outer lips, removing the clitoral hood, and sewing the vagina partially shut, has the purpose of completely eliminating sexual pleasure, or even intentionally inflicting pain during sexual intercourse. They are also often performed on older children, by people who aren't medically trained or certified, in unsterile conditions, with no pain relief or means of providing medical aftercare. Female circumcision can also cause major health problems, particularly kidney infections and failure.
Male circumcision, while there is some argument that it can decrease sexual pleasure, can hardly be said to have the same risks.
It makes me really sad when people make this comparison.
Also, it added absolutely nothing to this thread, which was clearly the OP asking about boys being circumcised.
coffee bean / 26 posts
We did not. Originally, we were going to, but like @dandelion posted, I felt he'd had enough in the NICU, I didn't really want any more sharp objects near his tiny self!
I think we made the assumption that it was the norm, but once we talked about it further, we realized that neither of us really cared if he didn't look like his dad in that way, and we also realized that it really isn't the norm anymore. By the time LO has to deal with locker room stuff, I think there will be enough boys who aren't circumcised that it won't really be as big of an issue.
nectarine / 2053 posts
Our son will be born in December, and we have decided not to circumcise.
kiwi / 567 posts
OP, as the responses on this thread illustrate, it's next to impossible to have a completely rational conversation about this. We are pretty firm about refusing to discuss our decision with people IRL (they've pretty much stopped asking, but people weirdly asked right before/after he was born). Just in case judgment on either side was factoring into your decision, don't forget it's perfectly fine to say "Actually, we don't discuss our children's genitals outside our home."
pineapple / 12802 posts
@IRunForFun: I was just coming here to post about this as well. The two are firstly not comparable and secondly the OP was talking about male circs, not female.
It is also offensive to people who have made the choice for their sons, as it implies we have done them harm. Which, I guess some of you may believe. I can guarantee you, each mother here who has made the choice to circ (regardless of their comfort or regret), had zero intention of harming their babies.
blogger / pomegranate / 3044 posts
We didn't for either boy, DH is Indian and it's not a practice for his family/culture. No one besides my mom and sister have ever asked!
persimmon / 1339 posts
We live in Australia (Sydney) and did not circumsise - I don't know any non-Jewish people who did.
In my family back in Canada, all the men in my father's generation were circumsised, then there were no male children in the next genereation, and all the boys in the grandkids generation have not been circusised. Funny how there was a complete 180 in just 2 generations!!
bananas / 9628 posts
@Arden: mr. Bird has the same feelings as your husband about wishing his parents had not had him done. My ex wasn't and it was never a big deal for him growing up.
bananas / 9899 posts
I have thus far only had a girl, but if we had had a boy, we would have not circumcised.
It is a needless and permanent body modification and an infant cannot consent to it. I would never have any surgery done to my child that isn't necessary, least of all have skin removed from my baby for a purely cosmetic "benefit".
pomelo / 5041 posts
I didn't read the above threads, so this might have already been mentioned, but a pediatrician gave my friend great advice, which I followed. He said, "do whatever your husband is" because in the end he's going to want to be like dad and will have lots of questions if he isn't. I don't think it's the only thing to base your decision on at all, but it's what hit home for me. We circumcised ds and we'll be circumcising our twins as well if they're boys.
On the flip side, I had to be there to see DH's circumcision and it is a rough thing to watch. I'd opt to have your husband be the one to be with baby during this procedure if you opt for it.
And if you do decide to do it, it's often cheaper in your provider's office when you go for your first visit, just an FYI.
grape / 79 posts
@marionberry: A lot of people have told me that they had it done because they wanted their son to look the same as their husband, but I just don't think that is that big of a deal. I think he will probably have lots of questions about his penis regardless, and it's not going to be a big deal to explain to him why they don't look exactly the same.
But, this is coming from a currently childless person, so my opinion may change dramatically in a few years
Good to know about having it done in the provider's office!
pear / 1846 posts
@IRunForFun: although I agree that female/male circ are very different. As someone who comes from a culture where it is unheard of apart from for religious reasons, male circumcision does actually come across as a needles, painful and permanent procedure to perform especially when people say it was traumatic to watch. If I was to mention to friends that we were getting our son circumcised people would actually be shocked and horrified and people would be thinking we were harming our baby. @oliviaoblivia: and @purple daisy: 's comment wouldn't have been seen as out of order. These reactions are all cultural.
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