I went to my OB for our first ultrasound and when he looked there was nothing. Absolutely nothing. He had me do an ultrasound with a better machine and still nothing. He did labs and HCG came back with 51,886. progesterone was 8.90. He did say that there was some "fetal tissue" and wanted to repeat labs again today before taking any action. I'm so confused on how hcG could be so high but nothing showing, not to mention devastated. I've had no cramping, I had one time I spotting after BD but nothing else. Does anyone have any experience with this? Any advice would be more then appreciated.
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I am so sorry you are going through this. Did they see enough in your uterus to rule out an ectopic pregnancy? It seems really weird that they wouldn't be able to see anything with HCG that high and very limited bleeding. Could you go elsewhere for a second opinion? I usually would never suggest the ER, but it seems like something you needed answered now... Both for your own understanding/coping and to rule out an ectopic which could be serious.
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I don't have any experience to share, but just wanted to say I'm so sorry. I hope you get answers soon.
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He said after the second ultrasound that there was "very little fetal tissue" I assume he meant in the uterus. I believe they looked in the tubes in the second ultrasound but I was so distraught that I could be mistaken. He said something about labs to rule out molar pregnancy. The nurse told me this morning it may have been progressing normally, then stopped so it may have been re absorbed. I would be 9 +1 today, if it was tubal wouldn't it have ruptured by now? Both my sisters miscarried around 8 weeks naturally and I'm wondering why mine hasn't started?
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@ JHD- thank you. I appreciate that very much.
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I am so so sorry you are going through this. I went in for a 10 week ultrasound and there was nothing there either, just an empty gestational sac. The term they often use is "blighted ovum" to describe it. I can't say for sure we had the same situation bit it sounds very familiar. Basically, what happens is the egg and sperm meet and (because of some abnormality) it stops maturing at a very early cell division level and is often absorbed by the gestational sac. Since the sac is still producing pregnancy hormones, your pregnancy continues on until it gets to a certain point (11 weeks for me) that the body recognizes and you begin to bleed.
I ended up having a D&C. Some women can go up to 16 weeks and beyond until the body recognizes something is wrong.
Once again, I am so sorry. It doesn't matter that they didn't see a fetus...you have lost something so incredibly dear. We have some great resources on here for handling grief after a loss-- it was invaluable to me.
I am no expert but if you have any questions, feel free to ask or wall me.
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@Ashleigh3388: it doesn't sound like your doctor is worried about an ectopic, so don't let me out that in your head. I just did a quick Google search and it sounds like around 7w is the average time to have symptoms, with a range of 6-8w. So you are probably correct in thinking 9w would be late not to have symptoms and it be ectopic.
I hope you get answers soon. I am so sorry you are dealing with this. I had a miscarriage at 7.5 weeks and it was one of the hardest things I've experienced. Hugs.
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@Ashleigh3388: No experience with your exact situation but I had a missed miscarriage diagnosed at the doctor as well. It is so awful to be blindsided and to try to wrap your head around what is happening. Sending you hugs!
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Sometimes your body just doesn't get the memo that something's gone wrong. I got all the way to 11 weeks (after several healthy scans) and I still had no signs that the baby had died.. hence a d&c.
I really hope that they've checked your tubes for an ectopic pregnancy - I'd be asking for lots of questions and repeats with labwork. I'm sorry for what's going on. x
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@Ashleigh3388: I'm so sorry this is happening. Something slightly similar happened to me.
We went for our second US and after seeing the baby at 7w6d there was nothing there. I couldn't understand how that could be possible and had a hard time wrapping my mind around it. I was told that early in a pregnancy your body can reabsorb the tissue. We learned our baby had stopped growing at about 8 weeks. I had a D&C. We did learn after the surgery that it was in fact a molar pregnancy (partial, not complete). I never had Hcg tested until after so I'm not sure how high my levels actually were but from research people's levels can be in the hundreds of thousands.
Again, I'm so sorry you are going through this. It's so very sad and scary. Please wall me or ask if you have any questions about molar pregnancy. I've done lots of research. Lots of good thoughts and prayers for you
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I'm sorry for your loss. I am going through a missed MC right now too and know how hard it is.
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I'm so sorry for your loss. Lots of hugs. Sadly, there are a lot of us on here who have had miscarriages/losses, so you can at least find good support here. Feel free to wall me if you need to talk/vent.
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I'm so aorry-I think they call it a missed moscarriage? My numbers indicated everything was fine until 12 weeks and then suddenly I bled out. But there was no tissue-my de said the body will absorb it....which may be why your HCG is so high? I'm sorry youre in this situation. I have a blood clotting disorder that causes problems in the first tri-if you get a blood panel, they'll check for that!
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@Ashleigh3388: I'm so sorry. I was thinking about your last night (read your post on the Nov boards yesterday). :'(
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Thank you all so much. Trying to wrap my head around it has been the hardest part. I love that my doctor is doing so many blood tests and He's slow to do D&C or any surgical intervention. He knows how long we've been trying and pointed out that now we know we can get pregnant with out help. I just feel so pregnant all the symptoms are still strong (which is making this that much harder). I would like to just be done with it. To me it sounds like a horrible thing to say but there was nothing on the ultrasound. No pole, no baby, not even a sac. If it have been gone long enough to absorb all of that, then shouldn't my levels be lower? After a lot of research (my hub took away my internet because I wasn't sleeping) I think the problem is the low progesterone. I go back on Monday and hopefully he will have some answers for me
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I'm so sorry. Big (((hugs)))
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@Ashleigh3388: my doctor feels low progesterone is usually a symptom of a nonviable pregnancy, not a cause. But I know there's a lot of controversy about that.
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This happened to me with my last miscarriage although my betas were much lower. They couldn't find anything on the ultrasound at all except thick lining at almost 7 weeks. They wanted to give me methotrexate assuming it was ectopic except that they couldn't see it in a tube either. I asked them to give my body a week to figure it out and I started miscarrying naturally on my own. I felt very pregnant the whole time. Sorry you are going through this.
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I'm so sorry.
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I'm sorry. I don't Bink there is a specific time when bleeding would or wouldn't occur. I had a missed miscarriage at 10-11 weeks and never bled.
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@Ashleigh3388: I am so sorry
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@T.H.O.U. -- did you end up having a D&C or did it eventually happen?
Those of you that had a D&C -- did it effect your ability to conceive after?
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@Ashleigh3388: Didn't effect my chances of conceiving at all. I had my D&C in mid August, got my first natural AF 6 weeks later and tried that cycle (so I ovulated in early October,) got pregnant and am now 28 weeks.
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@Ashleigh3388: had to have a d&c both times.
First time it out my cycle out of whack and took six months to conceive again. After our second loss, we immediately had a successful pregnancy.
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I'm sorry you're going through this. I went through the same thing just shy of 8 weeks. I had doubling HCG in the 50K range, tons of pregnancy symptoms but an empty sac. My doc dxed it as a blighted ovum, and I had a d&C the next day. It was an easy procedure and the pregnancy symptoms went away almost instantaneously. I chose surgery b/c my body showed no sign of recognizing the pregnancy had failed.
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I'm so sorry for your loss. Hope you get answers and a healthy baby very soon.
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@Ashleigh3388: sorry to hear of your loss ... so many hugs... I had a missed miscarriage at 12 weeks. Wishing you healing and peace
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UPDATE:
Tuesday (almost 2 weeks after DX) I still hadn't started bleeding or anything. I called the Dr because I was having intense cramping but nothing coming from it. They called in a prescription for Tylenol 3. She said to continue to wait as my numbers were falling, but slowly. (At this point they've fallen from 52,000 to 30,000). Wednesday was a normal day, no pain. nothing. Decided to take a bath after getting my LO down for bed. I got up to get out of the tub, felt something and immediatly started gushing blood. This went on for 3 hours. At one point I got light headed and dizzy, walked out of the bathroom and passed out on the floor. MyDH took me to the ER. I went through 3 pairs of pants in the waiting room. They finally got me back. Gave me a shot of zofran and morphine. They started IV fluids.
The Dr told me he needed to do a pelvic exam to see where all the blood was coming from. OMG that was terrible. He had to use a suction machine off the wall to get the blood out enough for him to see anything. (Worst pain of my life!!) Then he told me I was dilated to roughly a 7. He needed to call in the on-call OB. She came down, told me she was thinking of waiting to see if it would pass before continuing on to a D&C. I told her the other dr used the suction machine thing. She said she wanted to take a look, then got up, said she was going to book an OR. a few minutes later they came in and decided they couldn't put me under general anesthesia because of an allergic reaction.He said he would lightly sedate me, then the OB would numb me on both sides of my cervix. Then I was out. They sent me home with Hydrocodone, Motrin 1800s (i think?), and methergine.Now I am worried about Ashermans Syndrome. I don't think she had to dilate me, as i was already at a 7, but the suction scares me. I know it had to be done, as i was bleeding so much and had already lost so much blood.
Anyways, long story short, does this sound normal? Was your experience similar?
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@Ashleigh3388: Wow, that sounds horrific. I am so so sorry. To be honest, I am surprised your doctor wasn't more proactive in getting your D&C scheduled (unless you declined it.)
My experience was very different because it was a scheduled D&C and I hadn't started bleeding yet. I imagine my cervix had to be dilated (not sure how much.)
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I thought it was weird too,but i kept remembering him saying that there wasn't much there so it would just be like a normal period just a little longer and heavier. Then when it happened it scared me. There was so much blood. I have my follow up on the 6th and plan on asking him what happened and why. I think there was more in there then he thought. I know my progesterone wasn't high enough for a viable pregnancy but at the same time I want to know what it was (molar, BO, fetal demise, etc) so I can plan ahead for next time.
I feel better today then I have been. I'm able to walk a little better but standing up hurts. I don't have much bleeding at all. I would like to go back to work but I still get light headed if I stand to long. I know it will be a process but I don't feel as though I was properly informed of the situation at all, -
@Ashleigh3388: wow that sounds really scary! And really similar to meh experience (although I was 12 weeks when I miscarried), but nobody said anything to me about how dilated I was. But I was shocked at how much blood there was! I hope you can get some answers as to what happened.
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Oh my gosh! I am so sorry you had to go through that. I don't know anything about if it's normal or not, but it sounds scary! I'm glad you're okay and hope you get answers soon.
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@Ashleigh3388: I'm so so sorry you had to go through all of that
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That's terrible! I miscarried at 9.5 weeks (baby stopped growing around 7), and it was not like that. It was heavier bleeding than a period, and it hurt like hell, but it wasn't scary. I'd really like to know what happened there.
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@Ashleigh3388: I am so sorry. That whole ordeal just sounds awful. I hope you are better soon.
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@Ashleigh3388: hugs! that sounds awful and I'm so sorry you had to experience that! and very sorry for your loss.
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Thank you all! It was intense but in glad it's passed and looking forward to
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@Ashleigh3388: I haven't been through that but it doesn't sound like the norm. So sorry you've had to go through that, hope you're feeling better very soon!
I hope you feel better soon and that you will feel up to trying again despite the trauma. Sending you a big virtual hug 
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