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pear / 1986 posts
I had my first u/s this morning and we are having twins!! Today is apparently 6w2d, I thought it was 6 weeks exactly, so I'm a little confused. Baby A was measuring 6w1d (HB 116), Baby B measured 5w6d (HB 85 - a little slow, but still there!). And they have my due date now as December 28th. I'll go back for another scan on the 16th. Feeling relieved to have this first scan over!
@jaguar: Thanks for checking in! I know you can relate... the anxiety is definitely not waning, but I feel a lot better knowing how many LOs are in there!
pear / 1881 posts
@SweetiePie: I'm saying as many prayers as I can that that little embie is normal and that you can have that peace of mind in moving forward. Here's to quick and happy results
@GreenThumb: oh my gosh! Wow and YAY! I"m SO happy for you and it truly gives me so much hope Have two little Christmas babies will be such a gift
AFM - Man, my joints are hurting big time. I read that can be a side effect of the Lupron? Other than that, I don't have too many side effects. I am having headaches, but was assuming it was detox related. Also, thinking of you all and sending comfort in getting through the upcoming Mother's Day weekend. Whether you are finally pregnant or still waiting, I know that it can be hard and we are all there for each other
pear / 1986 posts
@NorthStar: @delight: Thank you!! We are really excited!!
@SweetiePie: Definitely hoping for great results for you!! I'll be thinking of you!
@NorthStar: I agree, no matter where we are in this journey, we all can lift each other up when someone needs it along the way.
honeydew / 7463 posts
@GreenThumb: Wowwwwww congrats! Grow babies!!! Saying many prayers for you all!
@NorthStar: thank you! Sorry you're feeling some joint pain (among other things). Hoping it eases up soon and the pain leads to a gain I hate that we all have to go through so much more than "normal" for a baby!
persimmon / 1132 posts
@GreenThumb: Oh, yay! I was thinking of you today. I had my anatomy scan (19w tomorrow! Eek!) and saw that you had a scan today, too. I'm so happy for you and those little beans and your family!!! Happy, happy!
@NorthStar: Hang in there with Lupron! She can be a bitch! So hoping that your FET gets you your magical growing bean!
pear / 1986 posts
@SweetiePie: @PurplePumps: @momazon: @jaguar: @Amorini: Thanks so much ladies! We are still letting the news sink in!
@Amorini: Can't believe you are already 19 weeks! It goes by so fast!!
pomegranate / 3809 posts
I guess I'm staying on IVF threads a bit longer. No heartbeat today, probably stopped growing about a week ago based on size. Anyone have any wise words for natural miscarriage or d/c? Has anyone had tissue tested with d/c and found it helpful or pointless?
honeydew / 7463 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm so so sorry. My heart is breaking for you.
I've had 2 missed miscarriages. One around 7 weeks and one around 11 weeks.
The first one I was going to wait to pass but the waiting killed me after just a week. I was afraid of where it might happen. So I called back and asked for a D&C. I had such a positive experience (considering the circumstances) so I always recommend it. I don't remember any of it and I was fine the next day. Had a very light period for a few days and that was it. I got my regular cycle back quickly (maybe 6 weeks later).
We didn't do any fetal testing since it was my first.
I had a 2nd one a few months later. Because it was back-to-back losses my OB at the time suggested fetal tissue testing. I didn't like her, but thank God for her because that's how we learned about my own chromosomal abnormality. That's how we ended up doing IVF w/PGD. In simple terms, a piece of two of my chromosomes are switched with each other. Because it's "balanced" and I have full chromosomes, just in the wrong places, it presents no issue in me. But the pieces of chromosome were being passed unfavorably to the babies (trisomy/monosomy).
Knowing the reason for the MC informed us about having to do PGD. And that's how we got our son. So I personally feel it can be very helpful. BUT we had a pretty indicative marker (PARTIAL trisomy 18, not a full trisomy). Had it been a full trisomy they might have just said it was bad luck/de novo and not done a full karyotype on DH and I.
I'm very very sorry for your loss. Feel free to ask me anything.
ETA: I remembered that I started this thread, I haven't fully reread all of the responses but maybe it will help inform your decision.
http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/bummer-topic-fetal-tissue-testing
pear / 1881 posts
@PurplePumps: my heart is broken for you I'm so sorry...
I don't know what the best choice is, but definitely research/look at the boards here as I know that this has been asked before. It seems that some women wait to pass naturally, but then are traumatized by it. I've been through a D&C (not for a miscarriage, but for another reason). I will say that it's almost like going under for an egg retrieval and I had very little pain, if any after. It seems that the D&C is the less traumatizing way to go, but you need to do what your heart tells you, which is likely broken right now. How soon do you need to decide?
apricot / 365 posts
@PurplePumps: I am so, so sorry to see this. Sending lots of hugs and good thoughts your way
the d&c vs on it's own is such a personal choice. I know some people who just needed it to be over immediately. I've had all of mine by letting it happen on it's own. "luckily' for me, they haven't been too bad in terms of the physical symptoms (major migraines with the hormone fluctuation, but that would happen either way for me). wishing you peace and smooth recovery whichever way you go.
kiwi / 538 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm so sorry :(. I would definitely recommend going the D&C route. I tried to avoid the D&C with my 2nd MC and took the misoprostol pills. It was just a horrific experience- I bled for almost 6 weeks straight with some really scary do-i-need-to-go-to-the-hospital episodes. I ended up having to do the D&C anyway since there was still some remaining tissue. With the 3rd one, I just decided on the D&C as soon as we knew it wasn't viable and it was really quick and easy. Emotionally it's always difficult but at least I felt like it was there was a definitive end so we could move on to the next step. Both of my D&Cs were blighted ovums so even though they did do the testing it was inconclusive. My dr did say though that early on in the pregnancy it is really hard to distinguish between the baby's cells and your cells so it may not provide any info. Hugs to you whatever you decide.
pear / 1767 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm so sorry. I've had a natural miscarriage and a D&C. I was really scared for the D&C since it is a surgical procedure but it was virtually pain free and made the whole thing end relatively quickly as compared to the natural miscarriage. I also felt like my cycle bounced back more quickly after the D&C versus the natural miscarriage. I did have the tissue tested for the D&C and there was some comfort in knowing that it was a fluke genetic issue that would likely not happen again. Again, I'm so sorry you are going through this.
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@PurplePumps: I am so, so sorry. I feel sick to the stomach, I know how much it hurts.
I couldn't bear being pregnant one second longer, so I scheduled the d&c - but I was also nearly 12 weeks, so yeah, the d&c was what I wanted as I was terrified to do things by myself at home.
We also had baby tested, which is how we found out about the T21 diagnosis.
persimmon / 1132 posts
@PurplePumps: Oh no! No experience to share. I'm just so, so sorry. Sending you lots of love.
pomelo / 5326 posts
@PurplePumps: Frick I hate reading this so much. I'm so sorry for your loss. I've had a natural mc, a D&E and a medically induced mc with cytotec. The natural mc was the most painful by far. It was also crappy having to wait 2 weeks for it to happen. My D&E was the most emotionally draining for me, I was 22 weeks, but it was physically the easiest. The medically induced mc was not painful at all (although I have read it can be bad) but I had to do three rounds of drugs and it dragged on forever. In your situation I'd probably pick the D&C. I think you will heal emotionally and physically the quickest. I really hate that you are going through this.
kiwi / 613 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm really sorry to hear you're going through this. All my losses were spontaneous natural losses, but I was so early for all of them that they were over really quickly. If I had been further along and found out during an ultrasound, I probably would've opted for a d&c for many of the reasons others mentioned - wanting it over as quickly as possible, wanting a definitive end-point, and wanting to be able to test the POC to see if that would shed some light as to the reason for the loss. I hope the next few days go smoothly as possible for you. We will all be holding you in our thoughts
pear / 1881 posts
@PurplePumps: I have been thinking of you. How are you doing?
AFM - Had my baseline ultrasound on Tuesday and everything looked great. A nice thin lining. So, I reduced my Lupron on Wednesday and added estrace (estrogen pills) 1x per day and baby aspirin. I'll up the estrace to 2x per day next Monday. I've had headaches the past few days and not sure if that is from the Estrace or if I'm getting sick. Either way, it's not been fun...my next ultrasound is on the 24th and then our transfer will hopefully be on the 31st.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
Thank you everyone for your kind words and sharing your experiences. We've decided to go ahead with the d&c to do the chromosomal testing. So we're scheduled for that on Monday.
persimmon / 1132 posts
@NorthStar: Glad to hear things are moving along and it's almost time to reunite with your embie (or embies? I can't remember!!). Sorry for the headaches! Hang in there!
@PurplePumps:
pear / 1986 posts
@PurplePumps: I have been out of the loop for the last week and my heart just breaks hearing your news. Wishing for peace for you and your DH. I am so sorry!
pear / 1986 posts
We had our second u/s this morning and unfortunately we have a vanishing twin who stopped growing sometime early last week. The other baby was measuring right on track with a good heartbeat, so that is a comfort. I feel sad but in the end relieved that it was definitive. Twins would have a been a wonderful adventure, but also quite challenging during pregnancy and beyond, so we are happy to have one little bean in there.
apricot / 365 posts
@GreenThumb: Oh, such hard news even if you have one doing well. So glad you have one strong bean still growing!
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@GreenThumb: I'm sorry to hear about one of your twins, but relieved that the other is thriving.
Afm, it's all done. I requested one more u/s before the d/c to confirm, no growth since last tue. Time to start all over again. My dh confided in his boss at work since we had to take today off, turns out the are doing ivf too so he's really understanding of the last minute time off we need.
persimmon / 1132 posts
@GreenThumb: So sorry about the vanishing bean. Glad the other bean is doing well!
pomegranate / 3764 posts
@PurplePumps: Big love. I hope you get results soon, and a bit of an answer.
@GreenThumb: I'm sorry for your wee twin, but still rooting for your little one. xx
honeydew / 7463 posts
@PurplePumps: I'm so sorry you had to go through this. I hope that your sadness eases over time, though it never goes away completely. Sending you healing thoughts and prayers.
@GreenThumb: I'm so sad to read about your vanishing twin, but glad that you seem to be finding some comfort in the thriving baby. In any case it's still got to be tough, I'll be thinking of you.
AFM, tomorrow I should hear the PGD results for our one embryo. I've been "out of the game" for so long, I forgot just how emotional this can be.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
@GreenThumb: I've been lurking and cheering all of you on since I'm not cycling and don't know when I will be again. I wanted to come out of hiding and say I'm sorry for the loss of one of your twins. I went through the same thing during my pregnancy. It took me weeks to process it and then I had lots of feelings about it. I still do sometimes. If you ever need to talk to someone who understands, feel free to PM me.
@PurplePumps: I'm sorry for your loss.
pear / 1986 posts
@PurplePumps: Sending lots of love your way today!
@SweetiePie: And seeing you a lot of luck with your PGD results today!
@endymion4: @PurplePumps: @Amorini: @jaguar: @SweetiePie: @Mrs. Pickle: Thank you all for your kind words yesterday. DH and I are ok and will surely work through it, but it definitely adds a major sadness at what should be a very happy time. I am already so emotionally spent from the past 2 years of trying for #2 that it is hard to feel a seemingly appropriate level of grief over this right now. And on a very clinical note, I am also worried that this will impact any screening (via bloodwork) we do for abnormalities since that poor little babe likely had a chromosomal issue. Just another question to confuse my nurse with at my OB intake appointment...
@Mrs. Pickle: Thank you! It is a great comfort to know that someone understands what I am going through. I am so sorry that you were in this position, too.
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