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L's on 3 naps with 2 carseat-induced catnaps. He gets up at 6:30, takes a catnap (10-15 min, max) in the car on the way to daycare, takes a 1.5-2 hr nap at 9:30, a half-hour nap at 12:30, a 1.5 hr nap at 3-330ish, then another catnap on the way home from daycare. Then he's asleep around 715-730. Night wakings around 10:30, 12:30, 330.

@pinkb: i was researching this issue because LO often gets up about 45 minutes before his usual wake time. at first i thought it was a phase because they say babies enter a light period of sleep from 4-6am, but it's gone on for a while so i don't know whether it's the amount of naps, the timing of the naps, too early of a bedtime...who knows. i'm hesitant to cut back on his naps, though, because he has REALLY crappy sleep at daycare (it's so bad i don't even want to write how much sleep he gets) and i feel like he needs as much rest as possible, whenever he can get it.

what's your kiddos average awake time? i don't know if it's because she's bored with me, but R's average is 1.5-2 hours max! she can go longer if she's being stimulated, but she definitely hits a wall and it can get crazy if she doesn't get a nap in around 2-2.5 hours.

in the evening, she can go a little longer, but 3 hours is max and that means we better have the whole nighttime routine done and her feeding by then.

@oliviaoblivia: Yes! We went on an out of state trip for the 4th of July and she hasn't been the same since. At least then it was one or two wake ups. Now she's teething. She used to STTN and sometimes teases us with it now. Friday night - 9pm-9am. It was glorious. Last night? 9pm-12:30. To 2:00. To 3:30. To 4:00. To 5:30. To 7:00. I am barely functional.

@birdofafeather: usually 1.5 hours. once in a while 2 hours, but that's rare and it means we're pushing it.

@birdofafeather: L's sweet spot is 2.5 hours awake time.

@oliviaoblivia: we've had crap sleep since the last growth spurt. He now is (usually) back to his 1030/230/445 wakings.

@BlueWolverine: L's sleep was crazy last night too - but 1. it was a full moon and 2. we had a power outage so no white noise.

We had a pretty consistent one MOTN wakeup for a while where she was also taking amazing 2 hour naps and then three weeks ago she started with a runny nose and was cranky, poorly napping, crying like a banshee falling asleep and overall just crazy. I thought for sure teeth were gonna show, but still nothing. This last week we went camping and she slept 9-10 hours in a row and has now done that in a crib as well. I hope camping reset her!

D is still pretty consistent. He goes down around 8, sleeps thru till about 6. On the weekends, I give him his paci and he goes back down for another 1.5-2 hours. On weekdays, I let him kick around until I'm ready to go in and get him, usually around 6:15, at which point he's up for the day. But then he's REALLY tired, so I've tried going in right around 6 to "dream feed" in hopes that he'll fall back asleep, but it's only worked once. And he naps pretty consistently - usually around 10-11 then 1-3. Sometimes he dozes off for 20-30 minutes after our 6pm nursing session when I pick him up from daycare.

LO's sleep has been relatively consistent. She had a few bad nights here and there (and one was particularly bad where she woke every 20 minutes for the first 3 hours of her sleep - worse than a newborn!!!!), but overall, she's still STTN from 730pm-630am. She is transitioning from 3 to 2 naps, most days are 2 but some days she still needs 3. It's fun to have her more awake these days

E goes down around 7:30 or 8. He usually wakes around midnight, 3am, and 6am. Sometimes he'll go back to sleep, sometimes he's up for the day at 6. So, @coastmama: , I'm right there with you. We sidecarred the crib because I was tired of getting up so much every night. It's maybe not the best idea, habit-wise, but I sleep better so I don't care!

He usually only takes 2 naps, about 1.5 to 2 hours each. If he wakes up early, he'll take 3. Still napping in the RnP... I'm just going with it, for now. Maybe when he starts sleeping better at night, I'll nap train in the crib. For now, I think he just needs to sleep wherever and however he can.

We don't have it *that* bad, I guess, but L's sleep has been crazy lately. The last month she's been waking up once a night probably 75% of the time. Before that she'd been STTN for 3.5 months. The weirdest change is that she wakes up crying in the middle of the night - she never cries when she wakes up in the mornings. It makes me kind of sad... wondering if she's starting to have bad dreams or something

@birdofafeather: his wake ups calmed back down - but they were IN. SANE all weekend. I am still nursing, I am trying to taper down the amount of boob at the night feelings but it really does seem like he's starving in the middle of the night.

@birdofafeather: I feed any time she wakes up. I've started wondering about this recently though... she gets more than enough milk/food throughout the day, so she's probably just doing it for comfort. But, she gets SO worked up if I don't feed her - I spend an hour+ trying to get her back to sleep, then end up caving in and feeding her anyway. If I start off by feeding her, it's a 10 minute ordeal.

L is now waking up at least once a night, 100% of the time. Some nights it's twice, and one night it was three times o.O I am slowly losing it!

I hate to offer advice because every baby is so different, but D has no night wake-ups. I fed every 4 hours for 4-5 months and still do a dream feed at 10, but otherwise he sleeps from 7:30-6:30. I have always ignored extra wake-ups, but he also doesn't really cry much. I also read a lot of sleep books and I think happiest baby would suggest doing a dream feed before the typical wake up time and then slowly pushing that back by 20 minutes. The idea is that you avoid the crying and waking up so it isn't a pattern. I'm not sure how this would work with the older baby, but I think it's worth a shot.

Some of my fb mom friends have gotten baby sttn by adding just the 10:00 dream feed... Also, having your dh go in to soothe rather than you (with the milk) can also help.

I wish you all luck!

@Mrs Green Grass: my problem is that it's NOT at the same time every night. so while sometimes it can seem habitual, then she goes a couple nights with only 1 wake up, etc. and i want to send DH in, but since he gets up at 3:30 am M-F until december, i'm on night duty. she's STTN sometimes, so i know she's capable, but i also don't want to force the issue at this point! talk to me in two months and we'll see where i'm at!

@birdofafeather: Thats what frustrates me is I know Abi is capable of STTN, she has done it plenty of times. She was still doing an overnight feeding about 2 months ago and it was always bewteen 4 and 6am. When we went out of town for a few days she dropped it and then just started waking for the day between 6 and 7am. She will eat a bottle overnight if I offer it but it doesnt affect the wake ups or the time she gets up for the day.
I might even be confused on what a "wake up" is! lol. She will started whining and then it will turn into crying if I dont go in. Usually all i do is give her a paci, why she doesnt do it on her own I am not sure. Sometimes I think she isnt even awake. But when the paci doesnt help right away its process of elimination either she is too hot and I move her to a nice fresh patch of the matress and turn up the fan or its teething tablet time.

Naps during the day have turned to crap. She use to do two 45 min to an hour naps and one longer one over an hour if not 2. But now its 2 or 3 naps that are 30 - 45 min. I need to gain control back

@dagret: We only recently lowered our crib, and thank goodness, because the last week she's started standing up in her crib!!! I probably need to get teething bumpers for the crib now...

In the last 4 nights, L has slept through the night 3 times! Fingers crossed for a continuation of this pattern! Well, one night she woke up at 4, but I turned her music on and she went right back to sleep without bottle/rocking, so I'm counting it

@pinkb: aw man! i count any time i have to help her go back to bed as a wakeup. it stinks when you know they are capable of it!(R sleeps better when we're traveling too!)

@dagret: bummer! we need to drop ours all the way down too because she's standing up! (it's in the second lowest position, so still safe, but might as well go all the way down!)

@swurlygurl: lucky! i keep crossing my fingers that my good little sleeper will return.

@oliviaoblivia: that sounds heavenly. R is on a solid two nap routine. usually one 2 hour nap and either an hour or 2 second nap. those naps do help because i can get a lot of work done during that time! so i guess that's a plus.

@oliviaoblivia: L's been doing 2 naps since like 4 months. This past weekend though, due to our schedule she only did 1 nap Sat and Sun (I have no idea what goes on at daycare - it's better for my sanity to not ask), and it was great! She napped longer for the one nap than the two naps combined. She even tolerated the extra awake time in the morning pretty well.
Her two naps lately have been 1 hour each. This weekend her one naps were each 3 hours!